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What does God want from you?

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
No, they aren't, because a person can be happy even if they don't live to be happy, or a person can live to be happy and not be happy.
I know I have some issues with personal happiness since I consider it selfish, but if I am not happy that is not the reason, since I know there is nothing wrong with being happy. My life circumstances are just what they are, and it would be very difficult for anyone to be happy under these circumstances. In fact, given these circumstances it is amazing that I am not depressed, but I am a fighter so that accounts for some of it.

I hope things work out for your benefit.

Sometimes I am surprised at being happy giving my circumstances. Could I be happy under any circumstances? :shrug:
Probably not but maybe that is part of it.

I see happiness as more of a mental, or if you like, spiritual attitude.
 
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Bird123

Well-Known Member
Similarities attract.



There's WAY more than just Christians and atheists, is what I'm getting at, but Christians will almost always blow off criticism of their religion as being from an atheist even though that often isn't true, and lots of atheists treat religion as though Christianity sums it all up (and again, that's wrong).
You are right. It's a mixed bag.

So many times, people want someone like themselves because they want easy. As for myself, if they were just like me, I would get bored pretty quickly.

That's what I see. It's very clear!!
 

Bird123

Well-Known Member
If I am an atheist, why should I speculate on God?
What proof you have that this proposed entity, God, created the universe, and it was not some physical process?
Perhaps an exercise in speculation might widen your view to more ideas and possibilities.

Proof? You would have to be there. On the other hand, I think everyone is capable of Discovering proof for themselves if they seek that.

That's what I see. It's very clear!!
 

Bird123

Well-Known Member
God want -- that if you need any kind of information about him, then you must cry and beg for it rather asking questions with such an attitude :)
Wisdom is acquired on the journey to acquire knowledge. Isn't crying and begging just useless energy spent? How could the wisdom come if all knowledge were merely given?

Now, if you are assuming I have an attitude of some kind, explain what attitude that you assume I have? To question is the start on the journey to Discovery. Can any question really be that bad?? Isn't the only ones who do not want one to question are the ones who do not want you to know the truth??

That's what I see. It's very clear!!
 

Bird123

Well-Known Member
This is the main reason why they made Him up.



Definitely not. I don't want anything from you. :)

Ciao

- viole
Still, there is the Gift of Gab!!
Speaking, interacting, and sharing views will always be a Gift even if some do not realize it. Thanks!!

That's what I see. It's very clear!!
 

Bird123

Well-Known Member
God does not want anything from us, although God wants things for us.
Yes, you are right. God does not want anything from us.

As for God wanting things for us, I have a problem saying God wants. Perhaps, it is a language thing. As for things, all the kiddies will have it all in time.

That's what I see. It's very clear!!
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
I hope things work out for your benefit.
Thanks, but only God has enough power to help me now. I am not banking on it but I am hoping for it.
Sometimes I am surprised at at being happy giving my circumstances. Could I be happy under any circumstances? :shrug:
Probably not but maybe that is part of it.
The worst thing than could happen already happened. :oops: I should not say that because my mother always told me not to tempt fate.
But I try to look at the positives and realize that my circumstances could be worse. I still have good health and financial stability for life and the cats are all healthy, at least for now. I can go it alone. I just wish my house wasn't falling apart, but physical structures can always be repaired.
I see happiness as more of a mental, or if you like, spiritual attitude.
Yes, I see it that way too. It is a mental/spiritual attitude.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Thanks, but only God has enough power to help me now. I am not banking on it but I am hoping for it.
That means you are neither a theist nor a Bahai. You disbelieve your manifestation of Allah. 'Fear Allah, terrible is the retribution of Allah', so said Bahaollah..
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
That means you are neither a theist nor a Bahai. You disbelieve your manifestation of Allah. 'Fear Allah, terrible is the retribution of Allah', so said Bahaollah..
No, it doesn't mean that. Just because God has the power to help me that doesn't mean He will choose to help me.
Let's face it. God's track record for helping me isn't that great. If it was, I would not be where I am at today! :(
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
You are right. God does not care for hunger, disease and disability in the world. He is not dependable, you are no exception.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
You are right. God does not care for hunger, disease and disability in the world. He is not dependable, you are no exception.
I cannot argue with that, except that God seems to single certain people out for the torture chamber, and then we are supposed to be thankful for the "tests" if we are a Baha'i.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
If the driver gets drunk and kills a bunch of people the manufacturer is not hauled into court.

God is not responsible for what humans did after they evolved because God does not determine what humans do.
It is as simple as that.

Then the driver is a ****ing idiot then, and your comment is a straw man.

However if the vehicle is faulty and the brakes fail, the car ploughs into a bunch of people then the manufacturer is to tqke the credit.


Humans did not evolve leukemia or other cancers.

And once again you are dictating what god does. Interesting he only does what you think eh?
 

chinu

chinu
Wisdom is acquired on the journey to acquire knowledge. Isn't crying and begging just useless energy spent? How could the wisdom come if all knowledge were merely given?
Infants cry for milk when they are hungry. Is this crying useless energy spent ?


Wise are the infants who cry and believe that mother is listening to the cry.

Similarly..
Wise is the man who cry and believe that God is listening to him/her :)
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Infants cry for milk when they are hungry. Is this crying useless energy spent ?
Wise are the infants who cry and believe that mother is listening to the cry.
Similarly..
Wise is the man who cry and believe that God is listening to him/her :)
Hi Chinu. Long time.
Mothers rush when the child cries. God seems to be a little hard of hearing like me.
Like they sat in Punjabi "Uncha ho ke bolo", so when in trouble one should call God with a loudspeaker, then perhaps he would hear.
If you are in Bathinda, how is the flood situation? In Delhi, we are having a second flood. Yamuna has not subsided and it is Hindon now.
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