What does God want from you?

[Bird123]

We can only prove to ourselves that Baha'u'llah was a Messenger of God, and we do that by looking at the evidence.
There is no proof that everyone will accept as proof since everyone views the evidence differently.

No, He would not teach that all men are equal in the sight of God because clearly they are not. Some people are more moral than others.
No, He would not tell us how to find God, He would tell us that God can never be found.

God did not create a mess. Humans created a mess in the world God created. So much for the Masterpiece.
Baha'u'llah did not have to teach anyone that people are evil. To know that all one has to do is turn on the TV and watch the true crime shows.
Baha'u'llah did not teach anyone to hate. You created that straw man in your own mind.

All the evil in the world is mankind's fault. You can bet your bottom dollar on that.

“God hath in that Book, and by His behest, decreed as lawful whatsoever He hath pleased to decree, and hath, through the power of His sovereign might, forbidden whatsoever He elected to forbid. To this testifieth the text of that Book. Will ye not bear witness? Men, however, have wittingly broken His law. Is such a behavior to be attributed to God, or to their proper selves? Be fair in your judgment. Every good thing is of God, and every evil thing is from yourselves. Will ye not comprehend? This same truth hath been revealed in all the Scriptures, if ye be of them that understand.” Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, pp. 149-150​

That's what I see. It's very clear!!

And you do not see the petty things mankind holds so dear? Since it is incorporated in your religion and you blindly believe. It's no wonder you do not see. Worry not. The lessons will come until you Understand.

That's what I see. It's very clear!!

 

[Bird123]

We can only prove to ourselves that Baha'u'llah was a Messenger of God, and we do that by looking at the evidence.
There is no proof that everyone will accept as proof since everyone views the evidence differently.

No, He would not teach that all men are equal in the sight of God because clearly they are not. Some people are more moral than others.
No, He would not tell us how to find God, He would tell us that God can never be found.

God did not create a mess. Humans created a mess in the world God created. So much for the Masterpiece.
Baha'u'llah did not have to teach anyone that people are evil. To know that all one has to do is turn on the TV and watch the true crime shows.
Baha'u'llah did not teach anyone to hate. You created that straw man in your own mind.

All the evil in the world is mankind's fault. You can bet your bottom dollar on that.

“God hath in that Book, and by His behest, decreed as lawful whatsoever He hath pleased to decree, and hath, through the power of His sovereign might, forbidden whatsoever He elected to forbid. To this testifieth the text of that Book. Will ye not bear witness? Men, however, have wittingly broken His law. Is such a behavior to be attributed to God, or to their proper selves? Be fair in your judgment. Every good thing is of God, and every evil thing is from yourselves. Will ye not comprehend? This same truth hath been revealed in all the Scriptures, if ye be of them that understand.” Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, pp. 149-150​

That's what I see. It's very clear!!

And you do not see the petty things mankind holds so dear? Since it is incorporated in your religion and you blindly believe. It's no wonder you do not see. Worry not. The lessons will come until you Understand.

That's what I see. It's very clear!!

 

[Bird123]

We can only prove to ourselves that Baha'u'llah was a Messenger of God, and we do that by looking at the evidence.
There is no proof that everyone will accept as proof since everyone views the evidence differently.

No, He would not teach that all men are equal in the sight of God because clearly they are not. Some people are more moral than others.
No, He would not tell us how to find God, He would tell us that God can never be found.

God did not create a mess. Humans created a mess in the world God created. So much for the Masterpiece.
Baha'u'llah did not have to teach anyone that people are evil. To know that all one has to do is turn on the TV and watch the true crime shows.
Baha'u'llah did not teach anyone to hate. You created that straw man in your own mind.

All the evil in the world is mankind's fault. You can bet your bottom dollar on that.

“God hath in that Book, and by His behest, decreed as lawful whatsoever He hath pleased to decree, and hath, through the power of His sovereign might, forbidden whatsoever He elected to forbid. To this testifieth the text of that Book. Will ye not bear witness? Men, however, have wittingly broken His law. Is such a behavior to be attributed to God, or to their proper selves? Be fair in your judgment. Every good thing is of God, and every evil thing is from yourselves. Will ye not comprehend? This same truth hath been revealed in all the Scriptures, if ye be of them that understand.” Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, pp. 149-150​

That's what I see. It's very clear!!

And you do not see the petty things mankind holds so dear? Since it is incorporated in your religion and you blindly believe. It's no wonder you do not see. Worry not. The lessons will come until you Understand.

That's what I see. It's very clear!!

 

[Trailblazer]

And you do not see the petty things mankind holds so dear?

No I don't, because there are no petty things that mankind holds so dear in my religion.

Since it is incorporated in your religion and you blindly believe. It's no wonder you do not see.

I don't see them because they are not there. All that is there is what you BELIEVE are petty things that mankind holds so dear.
It is as if YOU get to decide what is petty to the Almighty God.

Worry not. The lessons will come until you Understand.

Worry not. The lessons will come to you but you probably will never Understand.
You will just continue to Believe what you Believe.

That's what I see. It's very clear!!

 

[danieldemol]

It is as if YOU get to decide what is petty to the Almighty God.

It seems to me as though passing judgement on the gods is what all humans that follow a god do when they decide which God to follow.

 

[Trailblazer]

It seems to me as though passing judgement on the gods is what all humans that follow a god do when they decide which God to follow.

I don't think all humans do that.

 

[danieldemol]

I don't think all humans do that.

Then why arent you busy sacrificing humans to Huitzilopochtli?

 

[jes-us]

OK. God creates the universe and God creates you. What does God want from you?

If you are an atheist, speculate. If God really exists and creates the universe and God creates you. What does God want from you?

Before you just give a quick answer, consider a Being capable of creating the universe and you has to be very very smart. Consider High Intellect with your answers. Make God's answer High Intellect.

God wants me to destroy all humans by resetting their minds and turning them into harmless butterflies instead . If we taught our children they are butterflies instead of human , they'd grow up much more placid . A butterfly doesn't need a flashy car , a gold chain and a grand design to live in .

 

[Trailblazer]

Then why arent you busy sacrificing humans to Huitzilopochtli?

Why would I do that?

 

[David1967]

OK. God creates the universe and God creates you. What does God want from you?

If you are an atheist, speculate. If God really exists and creates the universe and God creates you. What does God want from you?

Before you just give a quick answer, consider a Being capable of creating the universe and you has to be very very smart. Consider High Intellect with your answers. Make God's answer High Intellect.

I've always wondered if we're some sort of failed lab experiment.

 

[David1967]

OK. God creates the universe and God creates you. What does God want from you?

If you are an atheist, speculate. If God really exists and creates the universe and God creates you. What does God want from you?

Before you just give a quick answer, consider a Being capable of creating the universe and you has to be very very smart. Consider High Intellect with your answers. Make God's answer High Intellect.

I've always wondered if we're some sort of failed lab experiment.

 

[David1967]

OK. God creates the universe and God creates you. What does God want from you?

If you are an atheist, speculate. If God really exists and creates the universe and God creates you. What does God want from you?

Before you just give a quick answer, consider a Being capable of creating the universe and you has to be very very smart. Consider High Intellect with your answers. Make God's answer High Intellect.

I've always wondered if we're some sort of failed lab experiment.

 

[David1967]

OK. God creates the universe and God creates you. What does God want from you?

If you are an atheist, speculate. If God really exists and creates the universe and God creates you. What does God want from you?

Before you just give a quick answer, consider a Being capable of creating the universe and you has to be very very smart. Consider High Intellect with your answers. Make God's answer High Intellect.

I've always wondered if we're some sort of failed lab experiment.

 

[danieldemol]

Why would I do that?

Because that is what Huitzilopochtli allegedly requires of you, and to paraphrase your own logic, who are you to judge Huitzilopochtli a petty man-made God?

 

[Trailblazer]

Because that is what Huitzilopochtli allegedly requires of you, and to paraphrase your own logic, who are you to judge Huitzilopochtli a petty man-made God?

You: It seems to me as though passing judgement on the gods is what all humans that follow a god do when they decide which God to follow.
Me: I don't think all humans do that.
You: Then why arent you busy sacrificing humans to Huitzilopochtli?
Me: Why would I do that?
You: Because that is what Huitzilopochtli allegedly requires of you, and to paraphrase your own logic, who are you to judge Huitzilopochtli a petty man-made God?

I don't see how sacrificing humans to Huitzilopochtli has anything to do with passing judgment on the gods.

 

[danieldemol]

You: It seems to me as though passing judgement on the gods is what all humans that follow a god do when they decide which God to follow.
Me: I don't think all humans do that.
You: Then why arent you busy sacrificing humans to Huitzilopochtli?
Me: Why would I do that?
You: Because that is what Huitzilopochtli allegedly requires of you, and to paraphrase your own logic, who are you to judge Huitzilopochtli a petty man-made God?

I don't see how sacrificing humans to Huitzilopochtli has anything to do with passing judgment on the gods.

The reason you do not sacrifice humans to Huitzilopochtli is presumably because you have judged Huitzilopochtli along with its demand for human sacrifice to be man-made.

If not can you explain why you do not sacrifice humans to Huitzilopochtli? (Try answering the question instead of dodging it in my opinion).

 

[Trailblazer]

The reason you do not sacrifice humans to Huitzilopochtli is presumably because you have judged Huitzilopochtli along with its demand for human sacrifice to be man-made.

If not can you explain why you do not sacrifice humans to Huitzilopochtli? (Try answering the question instead of dodging it in my opinion).

I did not dodge anything. I just did not understand what you were asking.

I think what you are saying is that the reason I do not sacrifice humans to Huitzilopochtli is because I do not believe that is a real god, but rather he is man-made. Yes, that is the reason.

Do you have a point to make?

 

[danieldemol]

I did not dodge anything. I just did not understand what you were asking.

I think what you are saying is that the reason I do not sacrifice humans to Huitzilopochtli is because I do not believe that is a real god, but rather he is man-made. Yes, that is the reason.

Do you have a point to make?

Simply that this was you judging a god so your incredulity at anyone else engaging in pretty much an identical process for your god seems broken

 

[Trailblazer]

Simply that this was you judging a god so your incredulity at anyone else engaging in pretty much an identical process for your god seems broken

Is the point you are making that you think I don't allow people to judge the God I believe in as man-made, the same way that I judge the god they believe in as man-made?

 

[danieldemol]

Is the point you are making that you think I don't allow people to judge the God I believe in as man-made, the same way that I judge the god they believe in as man-made?

Not quite.

You seem incredulous that @Bird123 was using his (allegedly god given) brain to judge your God when you said, "It is as if YOU get to decide what is petty to the Almighty God."

Being incredulous at such a thing is not the same as disallowing such a thing, but it is in my view misplaced as YOU, ME and EVERYONE ELSE should be deciding using our brains whether or not a person's god is petty and/or false since in the context of a creator God we would be gifted with the ability to judge for a reason (in case I need to spell it out for you the reason being so we do not get lead astray by false man-made gods)