What Happens When You Die?

[Nada]

11 Bible Verses about Corrupt Priests

Malachi 2:3
Verse Concepts
"Behold, I am going to rebuke your offspring, and I will spread refuse on your faces, the refuse of your feasts; and you will be taken away with it.


Jeremiah 5:31
Verse Concepts
The prophets prophesy falsely, And the priests rule on their own authority; And My people love it so! But what will you do at the end of it?

Ezekiel 22:26
Verse Concepts
"Her priests have done violence to My law and have profaned My holy things; they have made no distinction between the holy and the profane, and they have not taught the difference between the unclean and the clean; and they hide their eyes from My sabbaths, and I am profaned among them.

Hosea 5:1
Verse Concepts
Hear this, O priests! Give heed, O house of Israel! Listen, O house of the king! For the judgment applies to you, For you have been a snare at Mizpah And a net spread out on Tabor.

Hosea 6:9
Verse Concepts
And as raiders wait for a man, So a band of priests murder on the way to Shechem; Surely they have committed crime.

Micah 3:11
Verse Concepts
Her leaders pronounce judgment for a bribe, Her priests instruct for a price And her prophets divine for money Yet they lean on the LORD saying, "Is not the LORD in our midst? Calamity will not come upon us."

Zephaniah 3:4
Verse Concepts
Her prophets are reckless, treacherous men; Her priests have profaned the sanctuary. They have done violence to the law.

Matthew 27:20
Verse Concepts
But the chief priests and the elders persuaded the crowds to ask for Barabbas and to put Jesus to death.

Matthew 27:41
Verse Concepts
In the same way the chief priests also, along with the scribes and elders, were mocking Him and saying,

Mark 15:11
Verse Concepts
But the chief priests stirred up the crowd to ask him to release Barabbas for them instead.

John 19:6
Verse Concepts
So when the chief priests and the officers saw Him, they cried out saying, "Crucify, crucify!" Pilate said to them, "Take Him yourselves and crucify Him, for I find no guilt in Him."

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The Religion Game, as played in the past, had a fairly well-defined set of rules. It was essentially a game played by paid priests of one sort or another for their personal benefit. To compel their fellowmen to play the game, the priests invented various gods, with whom they alone could communicate, whose wrath they alone could assuage, whose cooperation they alone could enlist. He who wanted help from the gods or who wished to avert their wrath had to pay the priests to obtain his ends. The game was further enlivened, and the hold of the priests on the minds of their victims further strengthened, by the invention of two after-death states, a blissful heaven and a terrible hell. To stay out of the hell and get into the heaven, the player of the Religion Game had to pay lie priests, or his relatives had to pay them after his death. This "pay the priest" aspect of the Religion Game has caused several cynics to define it as the
world's oldest confidence trick designed to enable certain unscrupulous individuals to make a profit out of the credulity and suggestibility of their fellowmen by interceding on their behalf with some nebulous god or ensuring their entry into an equally nebulous heaven. It was this aspect of the Religion Game that caused Sigmund Freud to exclaim, more in sorrow than anger: "The whole thing is so patently infantile, so incongruous with reality, that for one whose attitude to humanity is friendly it is painful to think that the great majority of mortals will never be able to rise above this view of life."

A particularly hideous aspect of the Religion Game resulted from the insistence by certain priests that their brand of god was the only god, that their form of the game was the only permissible form. So eager were these priests to keep the game entirely in their own hands that they did not hesitate to persecute, torture or kill any who happened to wish to play the game by other rules. This practice was started by the Jews, whose enthusiasm for their one and only and very jealous father-god justified those slaughterings the accounts of which constitute so much of the bulk of the Old Testament. The practice was eagerly adopted by so-called Christians, who, not satisfied with slaughtering Moslems and Jews, turned like rabid dogs on one another in a series of ghastly religious wars, Protestant versus Catholic. The Moslems, who borrowed the rules of their Religion Game from Jews and Christians alike, did not fail to copy the bad habits of both. Believers were exhorted in the Koran to wage war on the infidel, the slaughter of unbelievers being defined as one sure way of gaining entry into the Moslem heaven (a much lusher paradise than the rather insipid affair offered by their priests to conforming Christians).

excerpted from: The Master Game, by Robert S. DeRopp

Of course there were corrupt priest.There were many corrupt people.Men of God.If satan rebelled, and he is an angel of God, what makes you think that humans won't also do this? There are those who spring up within that do the work of the devil.Those with bad intensions.Workers of lawlessness.The holy scriptures speaks of this many times.Humans sin.Some repent and turn to God for help.Others proceed with their wickedness and some take it further going against God.

 

[Thief]

Well it' not a simple, but a rather convoluted story. The version I advanced is far more simple, cohesive, and logical in terms of the goal of all who aspire to the light: divine union.

Your 'take' is simplistic, rather than simple, in that it takes religious Authority at face value, an authority we already have shown to be faulty, ie; Galileo.

Comparing Galileo to God?
really?
And my take on Genesis works for me....and anyone else with a sense of 'self'.

 

[psychoslice]

When the body dies, that's it, its all over red clover, live your life to its fullest, its the only one you are going to ever have.

 

[godnotgod]

Comparing Galileo to God?
really?

I guess you're not familiar with the story. the 'authority' I am referring to is not to Galileo, but to the Church, which claims it is the earthly representative of God, and which maintained the dogma of geocentrism, which Galileo proved false.

And my take on Genesis works for me....and anyone else with a sense of 'self'.

What 'works for you' is that it maintains a sense of egotistical affirmation. But on the basis of genetics alone, even conservative Christian theists have abandoned the story of Adam and Eve as true, as told in the link previously provided.

Once it is understood that the story is first an allegory, and secondly, a corrupted account, we can then begin to develop a true understanding of the spiritual nature of the allegory, which is a very powerful transformation of the mind. Until then, we continue to be led down the wrong path of dualism.

 

[godnotgod]

When the body dies, that's it, its all over red clover, live your life to its fullest, its the only one you are going to ever have.

Well, it's the only one that the universe is now playing in this particular way.

 

[godnotgod]

Of course there were corrupt priest.There were many corrupt people.Men of God.If satan rebelled, and he is an angel of God, what makes you think that humans won't also do this? There are those who spring up within that do the work of the devil.Those with bad intensions.Workers of lawlessness.The holy scriptures speaks of this many times.Humans sin.Some repent and turn to God for help.Others proceed with their wickedness and some take it further going against God.

Yes, and one of those lawless corrupted works is the twisted story of Adam and Eve, as we have come to know it. Anyone with any brains at all can SEE that the story is a convoluted one, designed to frighten and intimidate, for the purpose of control of the human spirit. No self respecting deity would EVER come up with such a scenario. My s**t detectors tell me that this was written by malicious men for selfish pursuits.

 

[Thief]

I guess you're not familiar with the story. the 'authority' I am referring to is not to Galileo, but to the Church, which claims it is the earthly representative of God, and which maintained the dogma of geocentrism, which Galileo proved false.



What 'works for you' is that it maintains a sense of egotistical affirmation. But on the basis of genetics alone, even conservative Christian theists have abandoned the story of Adam and Eve as true, as told in the link previously provided.

Once it is understood that the story is first an allegory, and secondly, a corrupted account, we can then begin to develop a true understanding of the spiritual nature of the allegory, which is a very powerful transformation of the mind. Until then, we continue to be led down the wrong path of dualism.

All these years and retorts....and you think my belief is dogmatic?
Genesis can be understood....as is.

 

[godnotgod]

All these years and retorts....and you think my belief is dogmatic?
Genesis can be understood....as is.

That's not what I said. I said that the Church maintained the dogma of geocentrism.

If Genesis can be 'understood as is', then how do you reconcile what the latest findings in genetics say about Adam and Eve, namely, that mankind cannot have come from them.

You 'understand' talking snakes, do you? You must be gifted as a 'snake whisperer.

You 'understand' how a fruit can 'open one's eyes' so that one can 'see as God sees'?

How do you know that God meant literally what He said? Did you fail to notice the wink in his eye as he forbade them the eating of the so called 'Forbidden Fruit'? 'Forbidden Fruit' my ***!

Your belief may not be dogmatic, but what you choose to believe is pure dogma.

 

[`mud]

Speaking of the fruit, does anyone, or even the scriptures, know what 'fruit' was really forbidden ?
I always thought that it was the fig, no blossom, no pollen, and thousands of tee-tiny seeds. Not to mention the tar like glue that sticks to one's lips. Figs should be forbidden shouldn't they ?
What's the OP ?
OH YAH......what happens.............one has to eat figs !
~
'mud

 

[DayRaven]

I tend to believe that just as my body will be broken down and recycled perhaps my mind undergoes something similar. I don't believe "I" personally will survive death, and I don't care either way. Life after death has never really interested me much.

 

[Nada]

Yes, and one of those lawless corrupted works is the twisted story of Adam and Eve, as we have come to know it. Anyone with any brains at all can SEE that the story is a convoluted one, designed to frighten and intimidate, for the purpose of control of the human spirit. No self respecting deity would EVER come up with such a scenario. My s**t detectors tell me that this was written by malicious men for selfish pursuits.

Oh.

 

[idea]

Conservation principles state that everything is eternal, nothing blinks in and out of existence, everything just changes form.

 

[godnotgod]

Conservation principles state that everything is eternal, nothing blinks in and out of existence, everything just changes form.

Which can only occur against the background of the Changeless, the Formless, which is the Absolute.

 

[`mud]

Ahhhhhh....but eternity is a slight bit of a speck in infinity.
~
'mud

 

[Thief]

That's not what I said. I said that the Church maintained the dogma of geocentrism.

If Genesis can be 'understood as is', then how do you reconcile what the latest findings in genetics say about Adam and Eve, namely, that mankind cannot have come from them.

You 'understand' talking snakes, do you? You must be gifted as a 'snake whisperer.

You 'understand' how a fruit can 'open one's eyes' so that one can 'see as God sees'?

How do you know that God meant literally what He said? Did you fail to notice the wink in his eye as he forbade them the eating of the so called 'Forbidden Fruit'? 'Forbidden Fruit' my ***!

Your belief may not be dogmatic, but what you choose to believe is pure dogma.

Apparently....after all these years.....'You'.....haven't been reading my postwork.
Apparently ....without actually reading my viewpoints....you just post word salad.

oh...that's right....you don't even believe in yourself!
How else anything Greater?

 

[godnotgod]

Apparently....after all these years.....'You'.....haven't been reading my postwork.
Apparently ....without actually reading my viewpoints....you just post word salad.

oh...that's right....you don't even believe in yourself!
How else anything Greater?

I am referring to your postwork immediately at hand, to which I responded point by point. Can you answer the questions posed, or not?

 

[godnotgod]

Ahhhhhh....but eternity is a slight bit of a speck in infinity.
~
'mud

The Absolute is so because it is not subject to time, and is therefore, The Changeless. That is why it is eternal. Eternity is not a thing, a speck, but a state.

 

[Thief]

I am referring to your postwork immediately at hand, to which I responded point by point. Can you answer the questions posed, or not?

I have done so...repeatedly....throughout the forum.
My answer seems to ply to many of the topic starts.

Perhaps you would like to post an op....as your question is digression here.

 

[godnotgod]

I have done so...repeatedly....throughout the forum.
I answer seems to ply to many of the topic starts.

Perhaps you would like to post an op....as your question is digression here.

You're not paying attention, Thief!

Here is the question you are avoiding and not answering, instead throwing up smokescreens and diversions; I repeat:

If Genesis can be 'understood as is', then how do you reconcile what the latest findings in genetics say about Adam and Eve, namely, that mankind cannot have come from them?

 

[psychoslice]

Well, it's the only one that the universe is now playing in this particular way.

Yes that's true, and when it plays in another way, its all new, we as the story of our life will not be there, nature is continually flowing, always new.