godnotgod
Thou art That
I don't see any duality.
No, but we tend to conceptualize them as such: 'matter and energy', 'matter and spirit'.
What about the background against which they are seen?
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What Happens When You Die?
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No, but we tend to conceptualize them as such: 'matter and energy', 'matter and spirit'.
What about the background against which they are seen?
godnotgod
Thou art That
Note that you use solids as a reference for space.
Space is essential to defining solid, but is the reverse also true?
Runewolf1973
Materialism/Animism
Don't know.... I suggest just peel those potatoes and not worry about it. Remove the see-er and there becomes no distinguishable background.
Who will remove the Seer?
But time kills man. Why should man create the killer?
Did Thief answer this?
Runewolf1973
Materialism/Animism
The thinking mind is the see-er, the perceiver... Once that thinking mind is stilled, the see-er and the perceiver lose identity....the "I" is no more, and all becomes one with pure consciousness/energy.
Who knows/sees the mind?
godnotgod
Thou art That
OK. So that answers my question about the 'background'. The thinking mind is illusory, and when dissolved, only the Absolute remains.
We move in circles. Don't we? Who will dissolve the thinking mind?
Runewolf1973
Materialism/Animism
Once the mind is stilled, there is no "who" to know or to see, for that again is another identity born of thought. That is why in the Absolute, there is no suffering, and no duality because there is no perceiver to perceive of pain, nor is there a perceiver of duality, there is only oneness. The Absolute.
So there is no perceiver of that ness or oneness?
The point is if there is no self, how do you dissolve it? And who has the power to dissolve it?
Runewolf1973
Materialism/Animism
That oneness with the Absolute is not something which can be perceived because the perceiving mind is flawed and the Absolute is perfect. If there is no self, what is there to dissolve?
Warren Clark
Informer
The one person who I admire answers from with this subject is Stephen Hawking.
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Stephen Hawking: 'There is no heaven; it's a fairy story'
In an exclusive interview with the Guardian, the cosmologist shares his thoughts on death, M-theory, human purpose and our chance existence
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Stephen Hawking: 'There is no heaven; it's a fairy story'
In an exclusive interview with the Guardian, the cosmologist shares his thoughts on death, M-theory, human purpose and our chance existence
Is absolute claiming the above?
If there is never any perception of the absolute, then how are we talking and what are we talking about?
Wannabe Yogi
Well-Known Member
It is possible to live without fear. Many Buddhists monks and Hindu saints can testify to this. Gandhi had an appendectomy without feeling pain. It is not that they don't recognize danger. It is that they don't have any neurotic attachment to pleasure and pain. So they are free from fear in that sense.
What is true now was true and will be true. Do you sense anything that is true now?
godnotgod
Thou art That
There is no 'dissolver'; there is only dissolution. An illusion cannot dissolve itself. Dissolution of an illusion occurs when the nature of the illusion has been detected. And no, there is no 'detector'; only detection. Detection occurs via seeing, not thinking. Thinking only perpetuates the illusion of self.