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What Happens When You Die?
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Is the absolute explaining all these?
An illusion should not perceive itself also?
godnotgod
Thou art That
"The universe is the Absolute as seen through the glass of Time, Space, and Causation."
Vivikenanda
godnotgod
Thou art That
Thief
Rogue Theologian
Thief
Rogue Theologian
So the existence of Man is a complete mystery?
Billions of copies of a form that can do little more than learn.
You are becoming a unique spirit.
Billions of spirits destined to be dust.
Really?
Not a chance that some of us might survive the last breath?
Crossing over does seem to have some requirements.
Most religious people think so.
I agree....but not for religious conviction.
I believe in life after death.
godnotgod
Thou art That
If illusion can be, then it must be so against something that is not illusory. Otherwise you would not know it to be what it is. That something is what you determine it to be illusory with.
You cannot know light without darkness; pleasure without pain; life without death.
That something is illusory itself points to that which is not illusory.
Perhaps this is the point atanu was making.
Warren Clark
Informer
Since our universe began you did not exist until you did... what happens when you die is most likely very similar to what happened to you prior to you existing in the first place.
The way I often think about it is... For billions of years I was not born and it did not trouble me at all so I would imagine after death it would be quite similar.
I happen to agree with this fully.
godnotgod
Thou art That
No one knows if there is an afterlife in the linear sense. If you attach to some idea, then it is only belief, not necessarily what is real.
What happens when you die may be a mystery, but that is not cause to put stock into beliefs about the mystery. For all we know, there may be no life after death in the linear sense, but this life and all that is manifested in it may in fact be nothing more than divine play, with no purpose to it other than itself. What 'purpose' do the infinite variety of snowflakes have other than their brief existence? Or the multitudinous stars? Or human beings, except for one possibility: that humans have the potential for transcendence and realization of who and what they are beyond their current temporal identities.
You are intent on a replay. If you fail to realize your true nature beyond that which you call 'Thief', then you may get what you want, only to have to suffer and die once more.
The important thing is to know why you hold the belief in afterlife that you do.
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godnotgod
Thou art That
I happen to agree with this fully.
You are here, now, as a conscious intelligent being. Did you emerge from a conscious, intelligent universe?
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Warren Clark
Informer
I have no reason to assume the Universe is conscious as a whole.
godnotgod
Thou art That
There is no reason to assume anything. You come out of the universe. You are an intelligent being. Is it unreasonable to connect your intellect to an intelligent source? Need the source be an anthropomorphic one?
So the universe is not a uni-verse. There are divisions between what is conscious and not-conscious?
What, then, do you suppose the origin of consciousness is?
Pastadamus
Member
You decompose and become food for worms.
Do you have doubt that you know the universe because of consciousness?
godnotgod
Thou art That
Daemon Sophic
Avatar in flux
As far as you, and everyone else knows.....Yes.
Do you have any proof to the contrary? Real, visible, verifiable proof?
If you do, then why are you keeping it away from all humanity?
Most of humanity BELIEVES what you are insinuating....that there is more. But nobody, ever, in all the world's history has ever once shown even one piece of proof, beyond mystic, feel good claptrap. :no: Sorry.
That is, "spiritually" of course. What we do actually leave behind is our legacy. Our children and the things they learned from us, and the things others have learned from us.....good or bad. :meditate:
godnotgod
Thou art That
The mystics have repeatedly stated that their experience lies beyond the thinking mind; that it is not part of the visible world; and yet people like you continue to demand visible proof based on logic and reason. Why? That is not to say that the spiritual experience is unverifiable; it is. But you need to drop your baggage of preconceived notions and go see for yourself. Otherwise, you continue to broadcast meaningless claptrap.
When you came into this life, no social indoctrinational accretions were part of you; when you leave, they are shed. They were not 'you' originally nor do they remain. They came to you from outside you.
Add that to the body. Both come and go.
We are not our bodies.
We are not our history.
So what constitutes 'you'?
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godnotgod
Thou art That
"I don't know" is the springboard to knowing, but you have dug yourself in and transformed a state of mind into a doctrine and a position of defense/offense just as rigid and inflexible as any religious dogma. Just because you don't know does not mean I don't.
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