Triumphant_Loser
Libertarian Egalitarian
Do you not believe in Heaven in the literal sense?
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What Happens When You Die?
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Do you not believe in Heaven in the literal sense?
godnotgod
Thou art That
Death cannot exist without it's corresponding aspect, life, and vice-versa. They work in harmony, not in conflict. The conflict is only in your mind. Because it is in your mind, it is projected onto reality, thereby generating real conflict, where none originally exists. This applies to Good and Evil as well.
It was a picture of a fox that happened to LOOK like Jesus when viewed in a particular way. It was not a picture of Jesus perse. That was already in your mind.
But why does the swordfight exist in the first place?
The actualized conflict between good and evil comes about because of a mistake in understanding their relationship. Because of morality, good must oppose evil, as dictated by the concept of good. Then there is conflict, but none originally exists.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
At some 'point' you will stop denying the overall 'picture'.....and 'see'.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
Numbers are a cognitive device made by Man to serve Man.
Time is a measure...a cognitive device...made by Man to serve Man.
As for life that is not physical.....THERE HAD BETTER BE!
Otherwise.....No Creator....no heaven.....no afterlife.....
And Man is a complete mystery without purpose.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
And the Thief said to the Carpenter....'remember me, when You receive your kingdom.'
godnotgod
Thou art That
Thief
Rogue Theologian
Try Genesis......in the beginning.....
godnotgod
Thou art That
What are you talking about? What does that have to do with what I said about good and evil? Your'e just pulling rabbits out of hats again, Thief, making things up as you go.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
No correlation of good and evil in Genesis?
No discussion of death in Genesis?
How then to consider what happens when we die?
This far into a thread......
What happens when we die ?
Our brains turn to mush.
Our bodies follow shortly.
Cognizance fails with death.
If buried, not to me you don't, our bodies will slowly dehydryte into a mumified form.
If burned in cremation, I choose this way, my remains will be aromatically distributed,
or our "spirit", if there really is one, will float away into the cosmotic ethers.
We will become a memory to all that remember us, for a while, and for some, for their lives,
until they also die and become a memory to others.
The silly writing of an aging Moses about genisis will have no further meaning then.
Nor will he.
It seems that I've written this many times before, in other forms and cadences....
oh well, it doesn't really matter, does it ?
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'mud
Our brains turn to mush.
Our bodies follow shortly.
Cognizance fails with death.
If buried, not to me you don't, our bodies will slowly dehydryte into a mumified form.
If burned in cremation, I choose this way, my remains will be aromatically distributed,
or our "spirit", if there really is one, will float away into the cosmotic ethers.
We will become a memory to all that remember us, for a while, and for some, for their lives,
until they also die and become a memory to others.
The silly writing of an aging Moses about genisis will have no further meaning then.
Nor will he.
It seems that I've written this many times before, in other forms and cadences....
oh well, it doesn't really matter, does it ?
~
'mud
Thief
Rogue Theologian
What happens when we die ?
Our brains turn to mush.
Our bodies follow shortly.
Cognizance fails with death.
If buried, not to me you don't, our bodies will slowly dehydryte into a mumified form.
If burned in cremation, I choose this way, my remains will be aromatically distributed,
or our "spirit", if there really is one, will float away into the cosmotic ethers.
We will become a memory to all that remember us, for a while, and for some, for their lives,
until they also die and become a memory to others.
The silly writing of an aging Moses about genisis will have no further meaning then.
Nor will he.
It seems that I've written this many times before, in other forms and cadences....
oh well, it doesn't really matter, does it ?
~
'mud
No afterlife?
Then no God.
And all of this that you have been is for nothing.
And Man is a mystery without purpose.
An aging Moses did die.....but is he really dead?
hey Thief,
The most important point of that last blog of mine,
was the purpose of the memories of oneself by other people.
Those memories, passed to others, will build the real afterlife existance.
May the memories of one be nourished and forwarded to all who care,
and the thoughts and actions of one be important to the others.
That is the real "genisis" in all of us, forwarded to all who will care.
~
MEMORIES.....life after death...the importance of existance.
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'mud
The most important point of that last blog of mine,
was the purpose of the memories of oneself by other people.
Those memories, passed to others, will build the real afterlife existance.
May the memories of one be nourished and forwarded to all who care,
and the thoughts and actions of one be important to the others.
That is the real "genisis" in all of us, forwarded to all who will care.
~
MEMORIES.....life after death...the importance of existance.
~
'mud
Thief
Rogue Theologian
ok...because the loss of our past....we don't know who were.
But I lean more to an ongoing sharing of dreamscape.
As such, thought and feeling is guarded and guided.
godnotgod
Thou art That
How do we know scripture tells us what reality is? Scripture is written by fallible men.
By consideration of who it is that is supposed to be having the experience.
godnotgod
Thou art That
I have to disagree. It is the awakened life of no-memory that is reality. Memory is who we were in the past. It is dead. It is the state of Identification which is who we think we are, and who dies at death and is gone forever. But who is that person really? Only a collection of impressions, values, experiences, etc., much like a cloud that comes and goes. Is that really who we are, or is there another reality most of us know nothing about; an awakened experience that has nothing to do with memory, with history. One that is only alive in the eternal present; not subject to birth and death; ungrown; unconditioned. That is our true nature; that which was here before our birth and is here after our physical death. If you live only as memory, you will never know this awakened experience. I am not saying that you will not remember who you were before awakening; I am saying you will no longer identify with that identity, because it is fiction. Awakening will show you that, just as awakening from a dream-sleep shows you that your dream is fiction.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
I don't believe the spirit is held to physical law.
The past could be accessible....and interactive.
The action dealt will not be felt in this world.
But ANY interaction requires some sense of self.
Without your own senses, you have no sense!!!!!!
I'm wondering...what do they eat in heaven...or do they eat anything.
Do "souls" have appetites...a sense of touch...fingers and toes...hearts and minds ?
We know they have thrones..wellll..God has one....with Jesus on his right side...
Not sure the Jews would agree though...What is on God's right side...maybe Moses ?
What would the people in heaven wear...besides sandals and robes..why would they wear anything.
On and on to incredulousness.
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'mud
Do "souls" have appetites...a sense of touch...fingers and toes...hearts and minds ?
We know they have thrones..wellll..God has one....with Jesus on his right side...
Not sure the Jews would agree though...What is on God's right side...maybe Moses ?
What would the people in heaven wear...besides sandals and robes..why would they wear anything.
On and on to incredulousness.
~
'mud
godnotgod
Thou art That
'The kingdom of God is within you.'
What do YOU eat? What do YOU wear?
'Chop wood,
carry water.
How miraculous!'
godnotgod
Thou art That
While the divine nature may not be ultimately held to physical laws, it voluntarily decided to temporarily 'become flesh', which means it agreed to abide by the physical laws.
The divine nature does not have a sense of egoic self; that is why it can be the divine nature.
Rain falls. Flowers grow. Where is the sense of self?