What Happens When You Die?

[Thief]

There is no cliff/precipice; Nazareth is in a valley. It's poppycock:
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/nazareth.html#sthash.3t4t9WlU.dpuf

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]" ... and brought him to the precipice of the mountain that their city was built upon." – Luke 4.29.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Nazareth, in fact, is located in a depression, set within gentle hills. The whole region is characterized by plains and mild rises with no sharp peaks or steep cliffs. The terrain is correctly understood as a high basin, for in one direction is the much lower Plain of Esdraelon. But there is no disguising Nazareth is built in a valley and not on a mountain. Even the mediaeval town sat below the summit – protected from the wind. Beginning only in 1957, the Jewish suburb called 'Nazerat Illit' ('Upper Nazareth') was built to the top of the hills to the east of the city. [/FONT][/FONT]

- See more at: Nazareth – The Town that Theology Built

If it's steep enough for the fall to kill.....

 

[Aupmanyav]

THEN He turned about and walked through that angry crowd. and no one could lay hold of Him.

Did they try? Perhaps they did not. They said, he is going by himself, let him go, and let us close the chapter. Sort of put him on ignore.

 

[Thief]

Did they try? Perhaps they did not. They said, he is going by himself, let him go, and let us close the chapter. Sort of put him on ignore.

The text I read.....the crowd was angry.
They took Him form the temple to that ledge.

That would be by force.
Resistance would be likewise.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Whatever. Does it concern me? I am like the Pilate. I wash my hands.

 

[Thief]

For this digression....perhaps not.

Unless there can be some notation of the Carpenter's life ...to your own.

How about?....If he didn't survive into the next life?...
and someone of His ability might fail?

what hope have you?

 

[BruceDLimber]

Then you clearly haven't read what the Baha'i scriptures say.

I believe If the Baha'i scriptures contradict the Bible, then they are not from God.

Then not having read them, you are in NO POSITION to make such a condemnation!!

Every hear of prejudice ("pre-judging")?

It happens to be one of the things the Baha'i Faith explicitly rejects, but I am afraid YOU are exhibiting it big time when you saly this given that your "belief" apparently has no legitimate basis.

Nor do they necessarily contradict the Bible.

So perhaps a bit more honest investigation and a bit less rush-to-judgement are in order here.


Bruce

 

[godnotgod]

If it's steep enough for the fall to kill.....

What are you talking about? Nazareth is in a VALLEY. There is no 'cliff'. It's all made up crap.

 

[Thief]

What are you talking about? Nazareth is in a VALLEY. There is no 'cliff'. It's all made up crap.

Let's see....maybe it was the ledge of a building?!

So you don't believe scripture as written.....so what.
Fill in the gaps as you please to.

Then you can die in peace.

 

[godnotgod]

Let's see....maybe it was the ledge of a building?!

So you don't believe scripture as written.....so what.
Fill in the gaps as you please to.

Then you can die in peace.

I don't need scripture to die in peace, especially when it does not match reality.

For you, 'fill in the gaps' simply means to make stuff up.

If it were the ledge of a building, why did scripture not say so? Scripture lies, and so do you.

 

[Thief]

I don't need scripture to die in peace, especially when it does not match reality.

For you, 'fill in the gaps' simply means to make stuff up.

If it were the ledge of a building, why did scripture not say so? Scripture lies, and so do you.

So you really don't believe in life after death?

Then you shall die in peace....and be dust.

 

[godnotgod]

So you really don't believe in life after death?

Then you shall die in peace....and be dust.

I don't believe people who believe in scripture that's manufactured.

No one knows if there is 'life after death', so what is your reason for believing it?

Do you just wish to perpetuate your ego ad nauseum?

 

[Thief]

I don't believe people who believe in scripture that's manufactured.

No one knows if there is 'life after death', so what is your reason for believing it?

Do you just wish to perpetuate your ego ad nauseum?

Live forever?.....yes.....of course.

 

[godnotgod]

Live forever?.....yes.....of course.

Live forever as your current character?

 

[Thief]

Live forever as your current character?

And more....

To those who have, more shall be given.

Read that somewhere.

 

[godnotgod]

And more....

To those who have, more shall be given.

Read that somewhere.

But what's the point to go on as the character 'Thief'? It's old and a has been.

The nature of Reality is that it constantly renews itself in new variety.

We live and dance on this earthly plane for a short while, and then it's over.

You refuse to let it be over.

You live for some future 'afterlife', which you don't even know is real, but is just a belief, based on....what?...instead of living each moment to its fullest. If you lived each moment to its fullest, there would be no desire to go on after death, because your life here would be complete. Then you can die in peace.

Be satisfied with what you have, instead of always looking for more gain and reward. You will never be satisfied always seeking these things.

 

[Thief]

But what's the point to go on as the character 'Thief'? It's old and a has been.

The nature of Reality is that it constantly renews itself in new variety.

We live and dance on this earthly plane for a short while, and then it's over.

You refuse to let it be over.

You live for some future 'afterlife', which you don't even know is real, but is just a belief, based on....what?...instead of living each moment to its fullest. If you lived each moment to its fullest, there would be no desire to go on after death, because your life here would be complete. Then you can die in peace.

Be satisfied with what you have, instead of always looking for more gain and reward. You will never be satisfied always seeking these things.

Then never shall 'I' end....never satisfied and always seeking.

 

[godnotgod]

Then never shall 'I' end....never satisfied and always seeking.

...and round and round you go, never being fulfilled.

'That which you are seeking is causing you to seek'

 

[Thief]

...and round and round you go, never being fulfilled.

'That which you are seeking is causing you to seek'

It's a big universe.....lots to go around.

 

[godnotgod]

It's a big universe.....lots to go around.

If you stop circling, you'll arrive.

 

[Nakosis]

I believed I have lived and died before. I have memories of an existence prior to this one.

The memories seem as real as any other, but who knows? However they affect my view of how things work.

From my presumed experience, death doesn't provide any answers. No rising of the physical body to live with God in heaven. No pearly gates, just perhaps another existence not much different from the current one.

I've been told I will come to know better these experiences of other lives because of some enlighten threshold I've past. People who seem to have more certainty of past life experiences.

Personally I liked existence, I've no knowledge of non-existence. So hard for me to relate to something I have no knowledge of.

So I accept after-lives and pre-lives because they fit with my apparent experiences. Without that I don't think I'd have any rational reason to accept an afterlife based on religious belief.

I look for religious idealism that supports my apparent experience. I'm more likely to accept eastern belief then western but because of my western upbringing I tend to try and merge the two into a compatible mixture.