What has gold to do with religion?!

[paarsurrey]

Didn't Jesus pray to G-d? Please
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[Jainarayan]

Didn't Jesus pray to G-d? Please
Regards

I'm not Christian. Jesus and his relationship with God is irrelevant to me.

 

[Vinayaka]

Okay, I didn't know that and now I do. Thanks for that. It's not what I was aiming for though. Paarsurrey is taking a verse that specifically talks about yogis and is applying it to Hinduism in general as if all or most Hindus are yogis. Is that the case?

Again, it will depend on how yogi is defined. Some people will say all of life is yoga, and others may narrow it down to only a few practices.

 

[Vinayaka]

There is no intention to hurt anybody's personal feeling.

So now the person doing the hurting, if there is any hurting, gets to decide. That's news to me.

Speaking personally, my feelings are rarely hurt, and certainly not by something as trivial as someone I don't know thinking gold has no qualities other than it's gold. But if my feelings were hurt, please give me some gold in apology.

 

[paarsurrey]

Again, it will depend on how yogi is defined. Some people will say all of life is yoga, and others may narrow it down to only a few practices.

Isn't' everybody or anybody who is steadfast in search of Truth and it is his priority in life is a Yogi?:

[1:5] Thee alone do we worship and Thee alone do we implore for help.
[1:6] Guide us in the right path —
[1:7] The path of those on whom Thou hast bestowed Thy blessings, those who have not incurred Thy displeasure, and those who have not gone astray.
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=1

Regards

 

[Vinayaka]

Isn't' everybody or anybody who is steadfast in search of Truth and it is his priority in life is a Yogi?:

There is no universal definition. Some people like to think their definition is universal, just like how people like to believe their opinion on anything is the only one around.

 

[paarsurrey]

There is no universal definition. Some people like to think their definition is universal, just like how people like to believe their opinion on anything is the only one around.

Does Krishna provide a definite definition of a yogi? Please
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[Vinayaka]

Does Krishna provide a definite definition of a yogi? Please
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I don't believe in Krishna, so I couldn't tell you. Have you tried googling 'definition of yogi'?

 

[paarsurrey]

I don't believe in Krishna, so I couldn't tell you. Have you tried googling 'definition of yogi'?

Fair enough, please.
What denomination you belong to and what religious scripture you believe most? Please name the person who authored it and what definition of Yogi he gave in it? Kindly quote from him from the scripture.Thanks
Anybody or everybody, please
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[Vinayaka]

Fair enough, please.
What denomination you belong to and what religious scripture you believe most? Please name the person who authored it and what definition of Yogi he gave in it? Kindly quote from him from the scripture.Thanks
Anybody or everybody, please
Regards

I'm a Saivite, and my main scriptures are the Vedas and Agamas, which are both unauthored. There are no definitions of yogi, as far as I know. I haven't read all of it, and both are way too long to remember much anyway.

This conversation is a classic example of how two people from opposing paradigms can't communicate, and that is the only reason I'm in this conversation: just to illustrate that.

 

[paarsurrey]

I'm a Saivite, and my main scriptures are the Vedas and Agamas, which are both unauthored. There are no definitions of yogi, as far as I know. I haven't read all of it, and both are way too long to remember much anyway.
This conversation is a classic example of how two people from opposing paradigms can't communicate, and that is the only reason I'm in this conversation: just to illustrate that.

We are living in the same world and have to co-exist. We are communicating with one another, we can agree or disagree, no compulsion.
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[sayak83]

Did Krishna as per Bhagvad Gita make any idol of gold himself and worship it? Please
Note: There is no intention to hurt anybody's personal feeling. We are just discussion a religious issue in search of Truth.
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Why would God worship himself! What a ridiculous question!
You do understand Krishna is the incarnation of God himself in Hinduism, not a mere person. Stated directly in Gita.

 

[Vinayaka]

@ parsurrey True. Now I have another question. Your signature says, love for all, hatred for none. Why do you seem to have a hate on for those of us who like gold? Not that it matters, but I like it so much, I've given some fairly substantial amounts to Hindu temples.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

We are living in the same world and have to co-exist. We are communicating with one another, we can agree or disagree, no compulsion.
Regards

Communication involves listening when the other person talks. You don't listen.

 

[Vinayaka]

Why would God worship himself! What a ridiculous question!
You do understand Krishna is the incarnation of God himself in Hinduism, not a mere person. Stated directly in Gita.

Not ridiculous at all, given the paradigm its spoken from. Speaking from a different paradigm only seems ridiculous from those outside of it.

 

[sayak83]

Didn't Jesus pray to G-d? Please
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Which is one of the many reasons why Christian theology is such an irrational mess....
Nice ethics, poor theology.

 

[Vinayaka]

Communication involves listening when the other person talks. You don't listen.

I think he listens. I don;t think he understands though. There is a language challenge, and a lens challenge. Most likely one that can't be overcome.

 

[Vinayaka]

Paarsurrey, here is a link to the very basics of temple construction, according to the Saiva Agamas. The Agamas are a vast collection of scripture, and several deal specifically with temple construction. I searched on-line for reasons for gold, but couldn't find anything specific. It is used a lot though, in my culture, not just in temples but also as personal adornment. Heads of maths (centers of learning, usually monastic) often wear larger gold earings, and the monastery head wears a very large pendant of gold to indicate his place, and authority. So it is very important to us. I provide the link so you have a sense of the complexity of it all. If I get a chance any time soon to speak with a staphathi (temple architect) I'll ask him more specific questions about it.

http://www.hindupedia.com/en/Temple_Construction

 

[sayak83]

A major tenet of Hinduism, and possibly the very definition of being Hindu is accepting the authenticity of the Vedas as being apauruṣeyā, "not of human origin".

But revealed to seers whose names are listed in the verses as well as in the appendices (see post 126). Which is what paarsurrey wanted.

 

[paarsurrey]

Paarsurrey, here is a link to the very basics of temple construction, according to the Saiva Agamas. The Agamas are a vast collection of scripture, and several deal specifically with temple construction. I searched on-line for reasons for gold, but couldn't find anything specific. It is used a lot though, in my culture, not just in temples but also as personal adornment. Heads of maths (centers of learning, usually monastic) often wear larger gold earings, and the monastery head wears a very large pendant of gold to indicate his place, and authority. So it is very important to us. I provide the link so you have a sense of the complexity of it all. If I get a chance any time soon to speak with a staphathi (temple architect) I'll ask him more specific questions about it.

http://www.hindupedia.com/en/Temple_Construction

Please continue your search in the issue. Thanks
Regards