What is God?

[ratiocinator]

God is similar to the concept of infinity in math and science. Infinity is a useful concept but it does not exist in space-time reality. You can never reach infinity or else it becomes a finite amount, thereby disproving the concept.

Nonsensical assertion.

The concept of space-time connects space and time, like two people in a three legged race. The tether of space-time places limits on both space and time since they need to work together. Space-time place limits on the universe that we call the law of physics and the speed of light. Say we were to remove the tether of the three legged race of space-time, so we have independent space and independent time. The two runners are now both free to run free style. Both can now exceed the limits of the three legged race, in speed and grace, since they do not have to coordinate and are therefore are not restricted by the laws of Physics than govern space-time. Mathematically we are getting closer to God and infinity.

Scientifically and mathematically illiterate nonsense.

Speed and position are expressions of time and space. Speed needs time to be expressed and space needs distance. The easiest way to explain why time and space are not tethered properly in Heisenberg Experiments, the electron or photon are acting like space-time is separated not connected. It is not coordinating like is expected of the three legged race of space-time. In this case the sum of distance potential; independent space, and time potential; independent time, is not random, but the sum remain constant, and forms a reverse relationship. Space and time can become interchangeable at the quantum level. This opens more options. The smallest particle at the quantum level create forces that can reach infinity; alpha and omega.

Gibberish.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Man! You really hate the idea that God is a possibility, don't you.

Well, I don't hate that idea. But it is an open unknown, so if someone wants to, they can fill anything into it that they like.

So in effect I am religious, but not the supernatural variant as my faith is that objective reality is fair, real, orderly and knowable in a non-personal way.

 

[PureX]

Well, I don't hate that idea. But it is an open unknown, so if someone wants to, they can fill anything into it that they like.

I agree. Especially if we find it helpful to do so, as a great many people do.

So in effect I am religious, but not the supernatural variant as my faith is that objective reality is fair, real, orderly and knowable in a non-personal way.

I am not religious though I do borrow some of their ideas, occasionally, when they work.

 

[Madsaac]

What is God? What's God's nature/existence?

Something in one's imagination, often derived from society (Often thousands of years a go)

Why does God exist instead of not exist?

To make people feel better about themselves and understand the world

That said, perhaps the one common denominator for this particular sort of relationship is gods are that which are fundamentally greater. Because powers and forces that are greater-than-human exist, relationships with these powers (gods) exist as well.

And here seems to be a problem, god's forces and powers seemingly greater than human................it might seem like that, but they're not

 

[Arnaud1221]

The boss...

 

[Quintessence]

And here seems to be a problem, god's forces and powers seemingly greater than human................it might seem like that, but they're not

There's no "seeming" about it. Explain to me how you, as a human, are not 100% dependent on things other than yourself for your continued existence and flourishing. That's a rhetorical question, obviously - it can't be done. Humans are not omnimax entities and to think otherwise is a hubristic delusion of the highest order. So much so I can't even take it at all seriously.

 

[osgart]

Since the universe is finite there must be an infinite aboutness out there in the great beyond. The infinite aboutness may be called God since our very existence comes from it.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Since the universe is finite there must be an infinite aboutness out there in the great beyond. The infinite aboutness may be called God since our very existence comes from it.

Yeah, but that is all if you believe in calling it God. Nothing else about God follows from that.

 

[Twilight Hue]

The Alpha and the Omega. The infinite and eternal. Closer to us than our own heartbeat, more distant than the farthest star. The source of love, the breath in our lungs, the fire in the equations. The Spirit of the Universe, the Lord, the giver of life. All these things and many many more…

Sounds like what I got out of my cereal box when I was a kid.

 

[osgart]

Yeah, but that is all if you believe in calling it God. Nothing else about God follows from that.

I agree. I'd rather be an atheist because the God concepts imply way more than is possible to know, and way more than can be evidenced, or proven.

 

[Madsaac]

There's no "seeming" about it. Explain to me how you, as a human, are not 100% dependent on things other than yourself for your continued existence and flourishing. That's a rhetorical question, obviously - it can't be done. Humans are not omnimax entities and to think otherwise is a hubristic delusion of the highest order. So much so I can't even take it at all seriously.

No, I think humans are not omnimax and are a part of a complex set of systems/organisms, nothing more or less.

You said '....the one common denominator for this particular sort of relationship is gods are that which are fundamentally greater. Because powers and forces that are greater-than-human exist, relationships with these powers (gods) exist as well.'

But when humans start to think there is something greater then themselves, god, then we may lose sight of the fact that we are just a small part of a well balanced universe.

 

[Quintessence]

No, I think humans are not omnimax and are a part of a complex set of systems/organisms, nothing more or less.

You said '....the one common denominator for this particular sort of relationship is gods are that which are fundamentally greater. Because powers and forces that are greater-than-human exist, relationships with these powers (gods) exist as well.'

But when humans start to think there is something greater then themselves, god, then we may lose sight of the fact that we are just a small part of a well balanced universe.

Huh? Accepting there are powers and forces vastly greater than humanity inherently makes one recognize humanity is just a small part of the universe. I'm not at all following your reasoning here. It sounds you're talking about anthropocentrism, not acceptance of the gods. Anthropocentrism absolutely does what you say here - makes one loose sight of the fact that there are higher powers greater than humanity and that the universe doesn't revolve around humans. Not sure why you seem to be mixing up anthropocentrism and acceptance of the gods (aka, that which is greater)

 

[Madsaac]

Huh? Accepting there are powers and forces vastly greater than humanity inherently makes one recognize humanity is just a small part of the universe. I'm not at all following your reasoning here. It sounds you're talking about anthropocentrism, not acceptance of the gods. Anthropocentrism absolutely does what you say here - makes one loose sight of the fact that there are higher powers greater than humanity and that the universe doesn't revolve around humans. Not sure why you seem to be mixing up anthropocentrism and acceptance of the gods (aka, that which is greater)

No, I didn't say humans are more important then anything else, I said they are just as important as everything else, part of a balanced universe.

And I don't recognise there are powers and forces greater than humanity (unless referring to literal meaning of natural forces) because those forces contradict the idea of balance.

 

[RestlessSoul]

No, I think humans are not omnimax and are a part of a complex set of systems/organisms, nothing more or less.

You said '....the one common denominator for this particular sort of relationship is gods are that which are fundamentally greater. Because powers and forces that are greater-than-human exist, relationships with these powers (gods) exist as well.'

But when humans start to think there is something greater then themselves, god, then we may lose sight of the fact that we are just a small part of a well balanced universe.

When humans think there is nothing greater than themselves, they may begin to play God, and declare themselves masters of the universe. Yet we are not even masters of our own lives, and until we can accept that reality we can never be at peace with ourselves or with the world.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

No, I didn't say humans are more important then anything else, I said they are just as important as everything else, part of a balanced universe.

And I don't recognise there are powers and forces greater than humanity (unless referring to literal meaning of natural forces) because those forces contradict the idea of balance.

Please eplain what the balance is and give evidence for it?

 

[Madsaac]

When humans think there is nothing greater than themselves, they may begin to play God, and declare themselves masters of the universe. Yet we are not even masters of our own lives, and until we can accept that reality we can never be at peace with ourselves or with the world.

Why, what do you think is greater than humans?

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Why, what do you think is greater than humans?

Well, the rest of the universe put limits on human control and to do. That could be considered greater. I do.

But to me it is subjctivity for all of us as to how we understand in the end the meaning with being human.

 

[Madsaac]

Please eplain what the balance is and give evidence for it?

Our place in the universe, namely our place on Earth (for the time being) humans should aim to ensure that there is not too much give or too much take, balance. For example, humanities influence on the balance of nature

 

[Madsaac]

Well, the rest of the universe put limits on human control and to do. That could be considered greater. I do.

No I don't think the universe is greater, we are just part of the universe, our place is where we are.

So you think humanity is greater than an ant colony for example?

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

No I don't think the universe is greater, we are just part of the universe, our place is where we are.

So you think humanity is greater than an ant colony for example?

I don't think such questions have any evidence.
The claim of greater is in effect a form of existentional coping and psychology.