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What is God's highest priority?

Bthoth

Well-Known Member
MAN 'is' given straight answers (John 13:34-35) but MAN choose to ignore that. - Jeremiah 10:23.
OK.... Then keep the rules, learn, write for the new generations and await.


Since MAN can't direct his step is why God is going to have Jesus step in - Psalm 72:8,12-14
What?

That is crossing up the previous line. Did you even realize what your claims are suggesting, that one minute man makes a bad choice, the next that they can't and why a leader must fix the problem.....by god?
 

Dave Watchman

Active Member
I know that an omnipotent god whose top priority is preventing rape and murder cannot exist.
I know that an omnipotent god whose top priority is preventing childhood cancer cannot exist.
I know that an omnipotent god whose top priority is preventing starvation cannot exist.
I know that an omnipotent god whose top priority is preventing the extinction of 99% of the species he created cannot exist.
I know that an omnipotent god whose top priority is having a personal relationship with all of his human creations cannot exist.
I know that an omnipotent god whose top priority is having all humans believe in him cannot exist.
I tend to agree. These are not God's top priorities. But God as the Potter, the Maker, can do with the clay whatever He wants to do with it. This is God's deal. God is not accountable to the clay for how He chooses to fashion and make some to be vessels of honour and others to be the vessels of wrath. We are a part, just a part, of something much bigger than all humanity.
So what is God's top priority?
He is dealing with the problem of sin. This is a serious thing. He is ultimately going to eradicate the problem of sin. He will ultimately kill all of His enemies. The penalty of sin is death. And the last enemy He will destroy is death itself.

It's not just all about us. Something else went wrong before we were here. We are caught up in the Devil's bargain.

I think. when it's all over, after we, and the angelic community see what happens, this type of rebellion will never take place again.

Then it will all be good. God will wipe the tears from our eyes.

"He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away. - Revelation 21:4​
 

Maninthemiddle

Active Member
I would like to pose a question for theists, namely: what is God's top priority? I cannot prove that no god exists, but there are many types of gods that I can prove do not exist.


I know that an omnipotent god whose top priority is preventing rape and murder cannot exist.
I know that an omnipotent god whose top priority is preventing childhood cancer cannot exist.
I know that an omnipotent god whose top priority is preventing starvation cannot exist.
I know that an omnipotent god whose top priority is preventing the extinction of 99% of the species he created cannot exist.
I know that an omnipotent god whose top priority is having a personal relationship with all of his human creations cannot exist.
I know that an omnipotent god whose top priority is having all humans believe in him cannot exist.


I could give many other examples, but I think the point has been made. If God exists, and he is omnipotent, his top priority cannot be any of the above things. So what is God's top priority? Since it seems like one of the items I listed above would be the top priority of the god of classical theism, it almost seems that if God does exist, then his top priority is to make it look like he doesn't exist.
I’m sure his priority is not to conduct a puppet show in which he controls all aspects of our life.
As a Buddhist I suggest you look deeper into karma as that gives reasons for such things.
 

Rational Agnostic

Well-Known Member
I’m sure his priority is not to conduct a puppet show in which he controls all aspects of our life.
As a Buddhist I suggest you look deeper into karma as that gives reasons for such things.

I don't think there's any more evidence for "karma" than there is for any god of any other religion. That said, I do think that most Buddhist teachings have more value and wisdom than any other religion (the ones about how to live a good life, not the ones making truth claims).
 

Maninthemiddle

Active Member
I don't think there's any more evidence for "karma" than there is for any god of any other religion. That said, I do think that most Buddhist teachings have more value and wisdom than any other religion (the ones about how to live a good life, not the ones making truth claims).
There is evidence of karma, research.
 

Tinkerpeach

Active Member
I would like to pose a question for theists, namely: what is God's top priority? I cannot prove that no god exists, but there are many types of gods that I can prove do not exist.


I know that an omnipotent god whose top priority is preventing rape and murder cannot exist.
I know that an omnipotent god whose top priority is preventing childhood cancer cannot exist.
I know that an omnipotent god whose top priority is preventing starvation cannot exist.
I know that an omnipotent god whose top priority is preventing the extinction of 99% of the species he created cannot exist.
I know that an omnipotent god whose top priority is having a personal relationship with all of his human creations cannot exist.
I know that an omnipotent god whose top priority is having all humans believe in him cannot exist.


I could give many other examples, but I think the point has been made. If God exists, and he is omnipotent, his top priority cannot be any of the above things. So what is God's top priority? Since it seems like one of the items I listed above would be the top priority of the god of classical theism, it almost seems that if God does exist, then his top priority is to make it look like he doesn't exist.
God doesn’t have priorities

Your mistake is that ulypu are thinking of His existence in human terms and He isn’t human.

He simply exists
 

Clear

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
... what is God's top priority?

Hi @Rational Agnostic

I did not read the thread so I cannot tell if someone else has made this point but I think the restorational theists are correct to believe that God's priority and his "work" is "to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of mankind".

In any case, good luck coming to your own beliefs.

Clear
δρ μ ω
 
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chinu

chinu
I would like to pose a question for theists, namely: what is God's top priority? I cannot prove that no god exists, but there are many types of gods that I can prove do not exist.


I know that an omnipotent god whose top priority is preventing rape and murder cannot exist.
I know that an omnipotent god whose top priority is preventing childhood cancer cannot exist.
I know that an omnipotent god whose top priority is preventing starvation cannot exist.
I know that an omnipotent god whose top priority is preventing the extinction of 99% of the species he created cannot exist.
I know that an omnipotent god whose top priority is having a personal relationship with all of his human creations cannot exist.
I know that an omnipotent god whose top priority is having all humans believe in him cannot exist.


I could give many other examples, but I think the point has been made. If God exists, and he is omnipotent, his top priority cannot be any of the above things. So what is God's top priority? Since it seems like one of the items I listed above would be the top priority of the god of classical theism, it almost seems that if God does exist, then his top priority is to make it look like he doesn't exist.
God = "word"
Emerge from God = World

God's top priority is to merge you back into the "word" when you realize that the world which you see all around you can never be a permanent peaceful place to reside.
 

John D. Brey

Well-Known Member
I know that an omnipotent god whose top priority is preventing rape and murder cannot exist.
I know that an omnipotent god whose top priority is preventing childhood cancer cannot exist.
I know that an omnipotent god whose top priority is preventing starvation cannot exist.
I know that an omnipotent god whose top priority is preventing the extinction of 99% of the species he created cannot exist.
I know that an omnipotent god whose top priority is having a personal relationship with all of his human creations cannot exist.
I know that an omnipotent god whose top priority is having all humans believe in him cannot exist.

I suspect you might be confusing "omnipotence" with "ultimate-tyranny," or "all-powerful tyrant." Which is to say I suspect that the imperfection of your six priorities is that they leave out the perfection of a seventh. Which is to say that we can suspect all six of your priorities are a top priority for God; but that the seventh priority trumps the other six. All six top priorities must be subject to the seventh in order for true good to come out of creation.


John
 
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ppp

Well-Known Member
I suspect you might be confusing "omnipotence" with "ultimate-tyranny," or "all-powerful tyrant." Which is to say I suspect that the imperfection of your six priorities is that they leave out the perfection of a seventh. Which is to say that we can suspect all six of your priorities are a top priority for God; but that the seventh priority trumps the other six. All six top priorities must be subject to the seventh in order for true good to come out of creation.



John
There is nothing on @Rational Agnostic list that would require tyranny of any sort. Let alone "ultimate".
 

Sand Dancer

Currently catless
I would like to pose a question for theists, namely: what is God's top priority? I cannot prove that no god exists, but there are many types of gods that I can prove do not exist.


I know that an omnipotent god whose top priority is preventing rape and murder cannot exist.
I know that an omnipotent god whose top priority is preventing childhood cancer cannot exist.
I know that an omnipotent god whose top priority is preventing starvation cannot exist.
I know that an omnipotent god whose top priority is preventing the extinction of 99% of the species he created cannot exist.
I know that an omnipotent god whose top priority is having a personal relationship with all of his human creations cannot exist.
I know that an omnipotent god whose top priority is having all humans believe in him cannot exist.


I could give many other examples, but I think the point has been made. If God exists, and he is omnipotent, his top priority cannot be any of the above things. So what is God's top priority? Since it seems like one of the items I listed above would be the top priority of the god of classical theism, it almost seems that if God does exist, then his top priority is to make it look like he doesn't exist.
Love and oneness.
 
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