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What is in a name: Why are Christians readily accepting of Judaic theology and not Islamic theology?

Rival

Rival

Diex Aie
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Libski said:
In what way were you a Christian? In the biblical sense? (Baptised, received the Holy Spirit, spoke in tongues)

Or in the religious sense? (Followed a group).
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I believed on Jesus as lord and saviour. I'm not sure you get to define what a Christian is. I attended a Catholic church and prayed regularly. I studied the Christian scripture and found it wanting.

I'm happy in my faith now and have been for over a year.
 
Libski

Libski

Member
stvdv said:
@Libski: Thanks for the nice observation. I know that this works for me, being a man. Though not 100% sure. My spiritual path is being diciple [surrender]. I choose to be celibate. Like 15y ago someone told me "you need sex, all suppressed desires in you". I'm scientific, so like to find out. So mentally I told my master "I never feel desire, but I know you take karma-stuff away from your diciples. So please show me how much desires is still there". OMG, after 60sec I said "Oke God, I have seen enough, put the lid on again please". Desires were gone. No desires for 15y. Maybe soon I will ask again. Just curious.

So when being a diciple, sometimes stuff seems different than it is. Good experience, good to know. Keeps me humble. Lots of Love and Grace in this Universe.
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Praise God.

What I love about Jesus is that he shows us who we were created to be. If I don’t see it in his life, I shouldn’t see it in mine. And he said that we will do more than he did. How exciting.

I go out on the streets and lay hands on the sick and God heals them. Religion tells us that only the disciples could do this - but Jesus came to make disciples, not “Christians”.

Thank you for sharing your experience. You should look up The Last Reformation and watch the Pioneer School. God is moving, sending workers out into the harvest.
 
Libski

Libski

Member
Rival said:
I believed on Jesus as lord and saviour. I'm not sure you get to define what a Christian is. I attended a Catholic church and prayed regularly. I studied the Christian scripture and found it wanting.

I'm happy in my faith now and have been for over a year.
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It’s good that you accepted Jesus but did you obey him? He tells us to repent (rethink our lives and turn our back on sin), get baptised in water and fire (receive the Holy Spirit). Then make more disciples.

Sitting in a building is no good to G-d. Our job is to destroy the works of the devil and become like Jesus - Holy.
 
Libski

Libski

Member
wizanda said:
Find it like a fairy tale if we examine history, the early church split from the beginning; like the Wheat is the Synoptic Gospels, and the Tares are John, Paul, and Simon.

In my opinion. :innocent:
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Who wrote history? Those who accept God or those who reject Him?

The Book of Acts is an example of a normal Christian life.

We were separated from God and feel a void because of it and religion doesn’t fill it. Only a relationship with God can fill it.

But people will continue to try to be fulfilled by worldly things and nothing worldly is fulfilling - if it was, there would come a point where people have enough and strive no more to be fulfilled, where they stop chasing whatever it is that they chase
 
stvdv

stvdv

Veteran Member
Rival said:
@Libski Where does it say that Jesus is not the son of G-d?
@Rival The very idea itself is blasphemous. G-d is one.
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Interesting observation to call this blasphemous. Did not feel correct. Just a feeling [alsways like to check those out], so I looked up the definition of blasphemy.
Blasphemy is the act of insulting or showing contempt or lack of reverence to a deity, to religious or holy persons or sacred things

Now it's clear to me, why I felt how I felt
First of all Libski was just asking a question. And you put quite a bold judgement on top.
But now the definition. "Act of insulting or showing contempt". I am a devotee of God, so if I see Jesus as the son of God [and don't bother you with my view] it's not an act of insulting or showing contempt. It's just an act of my devotion. I never see a point in judging the belief experiences of others.

"The very idea"... this is another pointer. Ideas are personal, subjective. Again calling ideas (personal), which are respectfully shared (not imposed on others) I would not call them Blasphemous.

But on the other hand to judge someone's respectfully shared ideas as Blasphemy might fall even under the definition of Blasphemy.

But then this I would better not state. Why? For me Blasphemy is kind of "me sitting on God's chair telling you what/how God thinks/feels etc.".

IMHO
 
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wizanda

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Libski said:
Who wrote history?
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His-Story is always told by the victor, and the world is full of the corrupted.
Libski said:
Those who accept God or those who reject Him?
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There is a Great Deception for a reason, as people are so easily led by the masses, and not by righteousness.
Libski said:
We were separated from God
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Paul and John were Pharisaic infiltrators, rewriting the prophecies that Israel was cut off from that point in history, and the world was put under a Curse until the Messianic age, where all the ungodly are removed by Holy Fire before it.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 
Tumah

Tumah

Veteran Member
Epic Beard Man said:
Why are Christians readily accepting of Judaic theology and not Islamic theology?
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I don't really see this. Christians don't accept Jewish theology...otherwise they wouldn't be Christian. They re-interpret Jewish Holy Books to conform with Christian theology, probably not differently then Baha'i does to Islam. There's no acceptance there.
 
Libski

Libski

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wizanda said:
His-Story is always told by the victor, and the world is full of the corrupted.

There is a Great Deception for a reason, as people are so easily led by the masses, and not by righteousness.

Paul and John were Pharisaic infiltrators, rewriting the prophecies that Israel was cut off from that point in history, and the world was put under a Curse until the Messianic age, where all the ungodly are removed by Holy Fire before it.

In my opinion. :innocent:
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Watch The Pioneer School on the Last Reformation site, or the movie (one of them).

I wish you could see G-d move :)
 
Libski

Libski

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Rival said:
I'm tiring of your preaching now. It is against the forum rules to do so. I'm not staff but I'll report you if you continue.
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I’m sorry, I didn’t realise that I was (I’m also not familiar with the rules).

My apologies:)
 
stvdv

stvdv

Veteran Member
The Ragin Pagan said:
@Rival The very idea itself is blasphemous. G-d is one

Not really. To Jewish people, the notion of Jesus as the son of god is blasphemy.
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Thanks for clearing this up. It was stated as The Truth; how you write/explain this feels respectful and therefore correct and makes sense
 
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BilliardsBall

BilliardsBall

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Epic Beard Man said:
It is astounding how many Christians are ignorant of Islam....

Jesus in Islam is referred to as the Al-Masih or "The Christ, also, Jesus in Islam has divine qualities that are so because according to Islam Jesus was instilled with divinity from God (as all prophets were). In Islam Jesus healed the sick, raised the dead, and made a living bird out of clay. If these are not divinely inspired actions I don't know what is.
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Yes, it is astounding, however, I've read 2/3 of the Noble Qu'ran (in English). DIVINE means Jesus is GOD, which is shirk in Islam. Christians don't believe Jesus was instilled with "divinity", they believe He was God eternally before being born of flesh, and is One with Father God.
 
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