What is nonbinary?

[YoursTrue]

What's a "man" and what are "feminine traits"?


Except duck and dog are species. Gender is a social concept. It's a label we apply to people and to ourselves based on a set of subjectively defined criteria that have changed throughout history.

Even animals have males and females. Male ducks are evidently called drakes. Female ducks are ducks. They are not the same gender. It's not a social concept.

 

[YoursTrue]

No, because for the overwhelming majority of people don't end up with gender dysphoria and less than 2% of the population is intersex.

Besides, I don't think it's common for doctors to say "it's a boy/girl" since the advent of ultrasounds. Long before the child is born, ultrasounds will reveal whether the baby is male or female long before birth. So unless the parents asked not to be told during those instances, they know the baby's sex well in advance.

While it's tragic when problems of gender arise at birth, it happens, sadly to say.

 

[crossfire]

And what does this have to do with a change in the gene pool? Are you suggesting people born with 6 fingers or other such medical conditions are born that way due to a change in the gene pool?

I didn’t ask if it were possible, I’m asking if it is typical.

I disagree. If the formation of diamonds were typical, they wouldn’t be so expensive.

Diamond prices are kept high by diamond brokers. Free market prices would put them in the semi-precious stone category.

 

[Callisto]

While it's tragic when problems of gender arise at birth, it happens, sadly to say.

Problems of gender arise at birth? I'm not sure I know what you mean.

 

[YoursTrue]

Problems of gender arise at birth? I'm not sure I know what you mean.

Yes, it's sad, but from what I have learned, unfortunately some babies are born with vestiges of the male organ and have also female characteristics and doctors will operate soon after. There's more, but I'll just start there. What Does Intersex Look Like at Birth? What to Know.

 

[Callisto]

I don't agree with drag queens wanting kids as an audience. But that's me

I've been to many drag shows and they're a lot of fun. But I also agree drag story hours are not necessary and their talents are better showcased in performing for adults.

 

[crossfire]

If they experience their gender as neither man nor woman... What do they experience it as? What else is there?

"Some people who are nonbinary experience their gender as both man and woman, and others experience their gender as neither man nor woman."

What Does It Mean to Be Nonbinary?

The term “nonbinary” is often used to describe someone whose gender identity isn’t exclusively male or female. It can also be used as an umbrella term.

www.healthline.com

Gender is a persona expression. Binary is a anima/animus right hand path system. Pay attention to his bullet points reinforcing the right hand path persona system:

What will the neighbors think?​

Institutionalization of morality and social customs​

The "idea" of nature--natural moral laws​

The idea of transcendence.​

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Nonbinary is a left hand path. You decide "this is not for me."

 

[Callisto]

Yes, it's sad, but from what I have learned, unfortunately some babies are born with vestiges of the male organ and have also female characteristics and doctors will operate soon after. There's more, but I'll just start there. What Does Intersex Look Like at Birth? What to Know.

Intersex is different from transgender, also the former occurs in less than 2% of the population. So while it is something that can occur, most commonly it does not. Even then gender (as in how one self-identifies) isn't anything an infant is capable of knowing much less expressing. Even when able to articulate, the matter of being intersex may not be obvious until puberty.

 

[SomeRandom]

Are we talking about adaption? Or mutation. My understanding of the difference is adaption is an attempt to supply what the organism needs mutation is not.

Yes; such a phenomenon is not called adaptation.

My understanding is that they’re synonyms. Merely with increased nuance (or maybe outcome?) determining the specific terminology
But it’s been a while since biology class lol

 

[Callisto]

Excuse me but please don't lump us all in together. Many of us are just as disgusted and alarmed by this degenerate garbage, too.

Truth. The thing that is being overlooked is that, like pretty much other activism, trans activism has been inundated with gaslighters, charlatans, and people with mental disorders that have nothing to do with gender dysphoria. We live in an era where those who just want to see the world burn will latch on to any platform they can exploit.

 

[Callisto]

They will be searching for a biological male or female, yes.


This is a very weird statement. What if archaeologists in the future have a completely different concept of gender, and instead identified it as something else entirely?

Gender identity is in the mind and doesn't need to correlate with the person's biology, so an archaeologist is not going to know about their gender identity; the physical remains only indicate the person's biological sex.

 

[Callisto]

Well, strictly speaking, yes. Which is something we do all the time. We use female pronoun for ships, for example. We can use female pronouns for lots of things.

Socially however, no. A person should only be called female if they identify as female.

Female refers to biological sex, though. A person can identify however they so choose, but that doesn't change their biology. Females don't require prostate exams, for example. Trans men don't either because they're biological females, not biological males.

 

[Callisto]

As long as scientists insist humans are mammals, then in order to apply this to humans, they will have to apply this to all mammals. Is the idea of 2 sexes overly simplistic for lions, tigers, & bears?

oh my! (c'mon, you knew someone would say it).

 

[Shadow Wolf]

And what does this have to do with a change in the gene pool?

It's that corn today looks like the corn we know today rather than as it did thousands of years ago. It can't be that again.

Are you suggesting people born with 6 fingers or other such medical conditions are born that way due to a change in the gene pool?

Sometimes, yes. Other times it's because the genetic potential is already there.

I didn’t ask if it were possible, I’m asking if it is typical.

It is typical to see every now and then. Humans come with more variety than we can learn of in a lifetime, and that's just one of tge myriad variety of human.

I disagree. If the formation of diamonds were typical, they wouldn’t be so expensive.

The price is fueled by rarity and bloodshed. They aren't unusual, they just require very specific conditions be met, which seems to happen not very often outside a few places on Earth.
And because they are made of carbon, I believe we'll probably eventually find some planets are better at making them than others.

 

[The Hammer]

I disagree. If the formation of diamonds were typical, they wouldn’t be so expensive.

Diamonds are only expensive thanks to decades of imposed artificial scarcity.

"De Beers maintained a monopolistic hold over the diamond market for several decades, controlling 75-85% of the diamond rough supply. They carefully released only enough rough diamonds to satisfy then-current demand, while continually adjusting the degree of rough diamond availability. Of course, this made prices escalate and reinforced the perception of diamond's rarity. De Beers actually mined considerably more rough diamonds than they sold."

Are diamonds really rare? Myths and misconceptions about diamonds #diamonds

Diamonds are popular gemstones surrounded by popular misconceptions. We'll tell you how they became so prized and debunk some of those diamond myths, too.

www.gemsociety.org

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Normal is the same as typical. Can we agree if something has a 1 in a million chances of happening, that is not typical?

As long as you understand what you wrote? That we have to agree means that normal and abnormal are first person evaluations in the brain.
You as you chose to do normal and abnormal. I chose differently.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Female refers to biological sex, though.

No, it can also be used to refer to gender and social construct. I.E: female pronouns, female dress, etc,.

A person can identify however they so choose, but that doesn't change their biology. Females don't require prostate exams, for example. Trans men don't either because they're biological females, not biological males.

Correct.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Even animals have males and females. Male ducks are evidently called drakes. Female ducks are ducks. They are not the same gender. It's not a social concept.

In case you weren't aware, social constructs don't really exist in animals that don't have abstract social concepts.

Animals have biological gender, but they do not have the social concept of gender. They don't use gendered terminology, they don't wear gendered clothing, they don't have social expectations based on gender. Their roles and functions are largely determined by biology. Humans aren't. For us, gender informs a much, MUCH wider spectrum of behaviours and expectations that are almost all completely divorced from biology.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Female refers to biological sex, though. A person can identify however they so choose, but that doesn't change their biology. Females don't require prostate exams, for example. Trans men don't either because they're biological females, not biological males.

Here is an example of the word "objective".

Definition of OBJECTIVE

expressing or dealing with facts or conditions as perceived without distortion by personal feelings, prejudices, or interpretations; limited to choices of fixed alternatives and reducing subjective factors to a minimum… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

Notice how it has 5 main meanings and they are not the same. The same can happen with other words.
Female genitalia versus female dress.
Those 2 version of female are not the same meaning.

 

[Kfox]

Diamond prices are kept high by diamond brokers. Free market prices would put them in the semi-precious stone category.

Diamonds are kept higher because we now have the technology to manufacture diamonds, we don't have to wait for the natural process. Before they were expensive because the natural process is rare