What is sin?

[Danmac]

Again you show your lack of reading comprehension.

I have not said that there are absolutely no absolutes.
In fact. I flat out said that I am not absolutely anything.
Sorry if my reply did not follow your prepared script.

Absolutes would mean an absoluter wouldn't it? You caught the prepared script huh?

 

[McBell]

Absolutes would mean an absoluter wouldn't it?

If you say so

You caught the prepared script huh?

So it would seem.

 

[Danmac]

If you say so

Now that we have that settled...

 

[McBell]

Now that we have that settled...

Wow.
Are your really that hard up for a win?
Had I had known, I'd of let you have your shallow victory much earlier.

 

[Danmac]

Wow.
Are your really that hard up for a win?
Had I had known, I'd of let you have your shallow victory much earlier.

Cmon I'm not here for a contest, just healthy discussion. I was just funnin.

 

[Moonstone]

To me, a sin is something that would cause a harm or loss to others. I think that pretty much keeps it free from any one religion and of man's laws. It is pretty much a moral issue or what is right and what is wrong.

I agree with this..if I were to hurt someone then it would be a "sin"

I don't agree with the "sins" in the Bible, etc. though.
-Dot

 

[Danmac]

I agree with this..if I were to hurt someone then it would be a "sin"

I don't agree with the "sins" in the Bible, etc. though.
-Dot

Who says it would be a sin?

 

[WayFarer]

What does sinning mean to you? Can people really sin? Is it wrong to sin if it helps someone else or helps the world in general?

Simplest definition:
Sin ~ when you know what you should have done and yet you chose not to do it.

 

[ruhnafsoul]

Yes, I agree with the statement .. sins is when you violate the GOD's law, as i said earlier.. sin is for those who has GOD.. who believe in GOD.. because we got rules to follow.. GOD's rule
if we have no GOD / not believe in GOD.. then we got no rules to follow.. we can do anything / everything that we want.. I can set my own rules that killing people is not a sin.. raping a woman is not a sin.. sex with my mother is not a sin.. and etc..etc
Sins are meaningless when we are the one who judge and give sins to ourself..
And if we ourself who give sin to our own rules violation.. then who are we ?.. are we GOD of our own self..
And what is happening in this world nowadays.. the killings.. raping..etc.. are because of those people who do not want to believe and follow the rules of GOD.. but following their nafs instead

 

[McBell]

And what is happening in this world nowadays.. the killings.. raping..etc.. are because of those people who do not want to believe and follow the rules of GOD.. but following their nafs instead

Let us look a bit more closely to this statement.
How many people on this planet are theists?
How many are atheists?
Now how many are rapists, murderers, etc.?

 

[Sunstone]

Sin is a term denoting an offense against the god of the Jews, Christians, and Muslims. It is not the same thing as right or wrong, moral or immoral, for what is an offense against their god is sometimes the moral thing to do.

 

[Caladan]

Sin is a term denoting an offense against the god of the Jews, Christians, and Muslims. It is not the same thing as right or wrong, moral or immoral, for what is an offense against their god is sometimes the moral thing to do.

Too vague. obviously anyone who is not religious is going to have at least some morals which may be different from those of 'believers'.

 

[KaytieJayne]

Sin is when you mess up in the eyes of god. Sin can include breaking one of the ten commandments or not living your life through God. We all sin, this is why God gave us his only Son to die on the cross for us so that we can be forgiven of our sin, however this does not mean that if you sin it's ok. God realizes that we are all not perfect and that we will mess up from time to time but you must ask for forgiveness from God.

 

[Danmac]

Suppose a man was being robbed and you were witnessing the whole thing. You would probably feel two impulses. The first would be the desire to help a person in danger (herd instinct). You would also feel a desire to flee (self preservation). Along with those two instincts you would feel a third thing, which would tell you which of the other two impulses you ought to follow. It is when we disobey this third impulse (conscience) that we experience a sense of self disappointment. This would be in violation of God's law to love, and would be considered "sin".

 

[Adramelek]

As a Setian I don't believe in sin, at least not from a Christian point of view. To me sin would be to deny the Gift of the Prince of Darkness and the Three-Fold Setian Commandment:

1. Arise in your glory;
2. Behold the genius of your creation;
3. And be prideful in being;
For I am the same - I who am the Highest of Life.

 

[Danmac]

As a Setian I don't believe in sin, at least not from a Christian point of view. To me sin would be to deny the Gift of the Prince of Darkness and the Three-Fold Setian Commandment:

1. Arise in your glory;
2. Behold the genius of your creation;
3. And be prideful in being;
For I am the same - I who am the Highest of Life.

Well that would explain this passage of scripture.....
Isaiah14:12 How great is your fall from heaven, O lucifer, son of the morning! How are you cut down to the earth, low among the dead bodies!
13 For you said in your heart, I will go up to heaven, I will make my seat higher than the stars of God; I will take my place on the mountain of the meeting-place of the gods, in the inmost parts of the north.
14 I will go higher than the clouds; I will be like the Most High.
15 But you will come down to the underworld, even to its inmost parts.
16 Those who see you will be looking on you with pity, they will be in deep thought, saying, Is this the troubler of the earth, the shaker of kingdoms?
17 Who made the world a waste, overturning its towns; who did not let his prisoners loose from the prison-house.
18 All the kings of the earth are at rest in glory, every man in his house,
19 But you, like a birth before its time, are stretched out with no resting-place in the earth; clothed with the bodies of the dead who have been put to the sword, who go down to the lowest parts of the underworld; a dead body, crushed under foot.

 

[Troublemane]

To Sin is to deny the inherent divinity in others. Taking a life, even in self-preservation, is bad but not as bad as committing murder---because w/self-preservation you are not taking pleasure in the act, you are being forced to kill in order to preserve/protect life; while the murderer does not see sacredness of life, only sees an object he wants to possess or destroy.

To sin means to harm the spirit, as your spirit is your connection to other living beings. It's what enables you to feel compassion, etc. So doing acts which harm others causes damage to your spirit, and makes it more likely to do more selfish/destructive acts later. In my understanding of it, the only way to atone for these acts is to (1)recognize how it hurt someone, (2) address it by either apologizing(to the one wronged), or opening up to help someone in need, (3)to keep trying to maintain an open state, allowing your heart to keep feeling--even though what it feels is painful.

That 3rd part is the hardest, as opening up to how your spirit feels, after a long time of denying it/hurting it/abusing it, is kind'a like when you have tied off a limb with rope---you lose all feeling in it, then when the blood rushes back in it feels oh so painful! :angel2:

 

[Adramelek]

Well that would explain this passage of scripture.....
Isaiah14:12 How great is your fall from heaven, O lucifer, son of the morning! How are you cut down to the earth, low among the dead bodies!
13 For you said in your heart, I will go up to heaven, I will make my seat higher than the stars of God; I will take my place on the mountain of the meeting-place of the gods, in the inmost parts of the north.
14 I will go higher than the clouds; I will be like the Most High.
15 But you will come down to the underworld, even to its inmost parts.
16 Those who see you will be looking on you with pity, they will be in deep thought, saying, Is this the troubler of the earth, the shaker of kingdoms?
17 Who made the world a waste, overturning its towns; who did not let his prisoners loose from the prison-house.
18 All the kings of the earth are at rest in glory, every man in his house,
19 But you, like a birth before its time, are stretched out with no resting-place in the earth; clothed with the bodies of the dead who have been put to the sword, who go down to the lowest parts of the underworld; a dead body, crushed under foot.

Danmac,

The majority of Christian, Jewish, and Islamic mythologies and philosphies are derived from ancient Egyptian religion and philosophy, as well as, other ancient cultures. After all Egyptian religion was around almost 500 years before the conception of the Jewish, Christian, and Islamic religions, none of which are original, but stolen from other much more ancient cultures. The original Priesthood of Set lasted for almost 500 years.

For ever in the Black Flame of Set!
/Adramelek\

 

[T-Dawg]

"Sin" is a tool of fear used to keep people in a constant state of guilt, so that the thought of leaving or questioning the cult doesn't cross their minds.

 

[Danmac]

Danmac,

The majority of Christian, Jewish, and Islamic mythologies and philosphies are derived from ancient Egyptian religion and philosophy, as well as, other ancient cultures. After all Egyptian religion was around almost 500 years before the conception of the Jewish, Christian, and Islamic religions, none of which are original, but stolen from other much more ancient cultures. The original Priesthood of Set lasted for almost 500 years.

For ever in the Black Flame of Set!
/Adramelek\

Christianity is only 2000 years old, but the promise of hope for the Christian faith is 6000 years old.