What is the definition of a "Woman"?

[Revoltingest]

A women who had a hysterectomy is still a women. Its not complex.

But she wouldn't meet your definition.

 

[Colt]

But she wouldn't meet your definition.

Only thick headed quibblers would think that. Plenty of women have hysterectomy's without dressing up and pretending to be men.

 

[lostwanderingsoul]

A trans man didn’t become a man after being born a woman. The brain had male drivers installed in female hardware. The person was always male, because we are not our gonads.

Amazing how people can spend so much time on the difference between sex and gender but can't explain the difference between male and female. I have NO PROBLEM with a person in a female body saying she "identifies as male" or "feels like a male" or some other words. My problem is with someone in a female body saying she IS male. The person in the photo above is NOT a male. She is a female with small breasts and a beard. And I have a problem with someone competing in female sports when he has male organs tucked in his tutu. Yes he IS his gonads regardless of what his brain tells him. This should not be treated as a medical problem with the physical body but as a mental problem in the brain.

 

[ppp]

My problem is with someone in a female body saying she IS male.

What about someone in a body with a uterus saying that he is a man? Or do we need to keep explaining the difference between sex and gender to you?

 

[Revoltingest]

Only thick headed quibblers would think that.

Destroying simplistic definitions can touch a nerve.

 

[lostwanderingsoul]

What about someone in a body with a uterus saying that he is a man? Or do we need to keep explaining the difference between sex and gender to you?

If you see a person on the street who lives in a two room shack but tells people he lives in a million dollar mansion, would you think there is a problem with his house or his thinking process? If a person with a uterus says she is a male would you think there is a problem with her body or her thinking process? Why is there a difference?

 

[lostwanderingsoul]

Nemo’s dad would have become Nemo’s mom in reality.

Maybe you idea of reality

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

XX chromosomes. Ova. Etc.

This is not really a hard question.

Intersex conditions are as common as red hair, and trans and non-binary people exist, so it's harder than you're assuming.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

It seems fairly clear that it was a trick question intended to solicit controversy and appeal to a specific audience.

I would ask a SCOTUS nominee about things relating to, say, her interpretation of the First or Second Amendment, not about her personal definition of a woman.

The sad reflection on the US is that her understanding of what "woman" means could very well have implications for Supreme Court rulings and Americans' legal rights.

 

[Aštra’el]

If we don't know how to define what a "woman" or "female" is.... is Kamala Harris really the first woman/female VP?

What criteria gives her that title?

Imagine if tomorrow morning Trump declared that he is the woman Donalda, and has always been a woman, and was thus the first woman President.

 

[We Never Know]

Imagine if tomorrow morning Trump declared that he is the woman Donalda, and has always been a woman, and was thus the first woman President.

If he did it would be dismissed as he has mental problems.

 

[Colt]

Imagine if tomorrow morning Trump declared that he is the woman Donalda, and has always been a woman, and was thus the first woman President.

Then "suddenly" the nonconformist would be struck by a common sense stick!

 

[lostwanderingsoul]

If he did it would be dismissed as he has mental problems.

Of course it would be a mental problem. But why can someone else live years as a man and then one day say he is really a woman and no one says it is a mental problem. They rush to change his body instead of changing his brain.

 

[ppp]

If you see a person on the street who lives in a two room shack but tells people he lives in a million dollar mansion, would you think there is a problem with his house or his thinking process? If a person with a uterus says she is a male would you think there is a problem with her body or her thinking process? Why is there a difference?

I am happy to answer your questions, but I won't bother if I don't think you are actually engaging in a fair conversation. You replied without answering me. The ball is in your court.

 

[Revoltingest]

Of course it would be a mental problem. But why can someone else live years as a man and then one day say he is really a woman and no one says it is a mental problem. They rush to change his body instead of changing his brain.

There is no "suddenly say". I agree that it's a "mental problem",
but to call it that isn't PC. Nonetheless, it is a real condition,
ie, a brain with one sexual orientation in the body of the opposite
orientation. Changing the brain has yet to be shown a solution.

Let's avoid treating trans-genderism as a fancy or whim.
Where is it really an issue needing formal regulation?
Sports competition is the big one. If a trans-woman is
physically still a male, but merely on hormone treatment
for a year or so, that is unfair to cis-women. So while
she might be living as a woman, & planning on full
transition, her sport status should differ from social status.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

You said she? Sounds right.

But "she" is disqualified in your definition.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

There is no "suddenly say". I agree that it's a "mental problem",
but to call it that isn't PC. Nonetheless, it is a real condition,
ie, a brain with one sexual orientation in the body of the opposite
orientation. Changing the brain has yet to be shown a solution.

Let's avoid treating trans-genderism as a fancy or whim.
Where is it really an issue needing formal regulation?
Sports competition is the big one. If a trans-woman is
physically still a male, but merely on hormone treatment
for a year or so, that is unfair to cis-women. So while
she might be living as a woman, & planning on full
transition, her sport status should differ from social status.

I can't help but notice that Caitlyn Jenner, who, when she ran as Bruce in the 1970s was also knows as the "world's greatest Athlete," said this:

"I've never been against Lia Thomas. She actually played within the rules. Was it fair? No, it wasn't fair, it's not a fair fight -- but she played within the rules. I have been from the beginning out to protect women's sports. I haven't been out to protect transgender athletes, but this is not an easy ... it's a tough subject. There's no one answer that fits everything.

"We need to stand up for women's sports. We got to keep it fair."

 

[ppp]

There is no "suddenly say". I agree that it's a "mental problem",
but to call it that isn't PC. Nonetheless, it is a real condition,
ie, a brain with one sexual orientation in the body of the opposite
orientation. Changing the brain has yet to be shown a solution.

How do you determine that it is a mental problem, and not a body problem?

 

[Revoltingest]

How do you determine that it is a mental problem, and not a body problem?

It could perhaps be viewed either way.
But as the syndrome presents itself, the
symptoms are mental problems, while
the body works just fine.

 

[Dogknox20]

Only thick headed quibblers would think that. Plenty of women have hysterectomy's without dressing up and pretending to be men.

A Judge should be impartial A Judge should be neutral going only by the law!
Nothing about GOP! It is a all about fairness and truth!
It is NOT a Judge if the Judge is towing a party line.