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What is the proper way to spread religion?
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Azakel
Liebe ist für alle da
This is what I was trying to say. That it's not the religion but the people in the religion. Or something like that, I not good at explaining....
The Voice of Reason
Doctor of Thinkology
I believe that they did, and yet they allowed many openly religious people to remain in the population.
Some churches were allowed to stay open (I believe that some of the churches were either Orthodox or Jewish, but I can't swear to it).
Storm
ThrUU the Looking Glass
We are getting off-topic now. I didn't mean to turn this into a debate about COmmunist policies. Apologies to Tom.
Would you like to continue this elsewhere, TVOR?
The Voice of Reason
Doctor of Thinkology
Not really, Storm.
It isn't something that I am dying to dig into.
I appreciate the offer, and I understand your not wanting to hijack the thread.
McBell
Admiral Obvious
what cultures have been destroyed by smiling missionaries?
logician
Well-Known Member
For one, many in AFrica I suspect, where original cultures and religions were replaced by Christianity. Remember slavery in the U.S.?
McBell
Admiral Obvious
Azakel
Liebe ist für alle da
You suspect, right. When an theist say something like that you demand proof. What's that burden thing you're all was talking abut. They've shown shows on TV with tribe that now follow "Christianity", they don't like all that destroyed. Yes they culture is different now but destroyed, hardly.
I think the spreading of faith in the past sometimes was done in the wrong ways. How can one preach about the love of God while the people are starving to death? Feed them physically first, I always say. Then if they want to hear about the spiritual stuff they may be willing to listen. And, as I said in an earlier post, they reject it- then leave them in peace.
*note- Neither theism nor atheism is the reason for wars and poverty. Greed seems to be the leading cause of these problems-- Greed for land and greed for power. And theists and atheists both seem to have greed (at times) in large amounts. Finding or losing faith seems to have little effect on a person's personality.
*note- Neither theism nor atheism is the reason for wars and poverty. Greed seems to be the leading cause of these problems-- Greed for land and greed for power. And theists and atheists both seem to have greed (at times) in large amounts. Finding or losing faith seems to have little effect on a person's personality.
blackout
Violet.
gnomon
Well-Known Member
Considering Christianity spread to Africa two centuries before Constantine followed by Islam after that I'm not understanding your point. Also considering the fact that non-Christian peoples routinely waged violence against others as well, mainly because the others were different, what makes them any better.
Seriously, why is it Christianity is always the big bad bugaboo but not anyone else despite their not being much of a difference at all.
logician
Well-Known Member
I consider replacing a native religion with another "destroying" a culture. Maybe you don't.
logician
Well-Known Member
Nothing, but it doesn't mean religion hasn't destroyed cultures, it has.
Storm
ThrUU the Looking Glass
So, when you wish that everyone were atheist, you want to "destroy" all cultures?
gnomon
Well-Known Member
I don't doubt that there are instances when one culture, under religious motivation, completely dominated another to the point where the culture of the other group wasn't really assimilated but just lost. It's hard to tell.
Some examples would be nice. We know that societies in many of the islands in the Caribbean were completely wiped out. However, we also know that even though the European powers that went there were Christian that it was primarily outright greed, the politics of empire, racial prejudice and disease that wiped out those societies. To say it was just religion is naive.
darkendless
Guardian of Asgaard
Destroying cultures is taking the original faith of the people, and replacing it with another.
Examples : Norway, Sweden (thousands killed for paganism), Africa (slave trading), Roman Empire (pagans burnt to death).
Isn't the spreading of Chrstianity a pleasant business? Thousands would have been spared reaining their native culture should they have not been destroyed with the people who carried them in favour of Christianity.
Norse mythology was almost lost because the nords carried it verbally, not much was actually written. In order to convert the Norse, the pagans were told their gods were demons, how sad.