What is wrong with sharia law?

[sovietchild]

You are confusing foreign policy with laws of a nation. Foreign policy is what is best for the nation it represents, and it's citizens, not what is best for other nations and citizens of those nations. The 2nd amendment applies to Americans, not Ukrainians. How Ukrainians treat their citizens is the problem of their government. If foreign policy was based on morality America would be invading most nations on the planet including almost every Muslim nation as American ideas of morality and rights are in opposition to Islamic ideas of morality and right. This would create another world war, even if Russia and China stayed out of the conflict. This would result in a massive death toll for other nations given the capabilities of the American military.

It is a bad idea to base foreign policy on a simple black and white morality dynamic while there is no globally accept idea of morality. There are some shared concepts but no single unified concept.

Promoting freedom, but yet supporting people who take the freedom away from you. How does that sound to you?

 

[Godobeyer]

I'd advise against using that word man.

You said earlier: "I see no problem,yes most of Muslim countries used Sharia law,which almost the same laws like :Egypt,Morroco,Algeria,Tunisia,Saudi Arabia ,Kuwiet,Emarites,Bahrian,Yeman,Sudan,I think also Malysia,Indonisia....etc" but now you're saying there are big problems with the interpretation of sharia.

You did not mentionned to countries ,you were talkin about stone homosexaulity and atheism. I don't know which country from countries I mentionned are used to stone the gay or atheists !

Also, if a system is so prone to corruption, and if that corruption produces such truly disastrous consequences, why give it so much power?

excusm me ,I don't get this .

Incidentally, I looked it up: of Muslim-majority countries, the ones which are not governed by sharia law in their judicial system are Tunisia, Mali, Chad, Niger, Turkey, Senegal, Guinea, Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan.

You don't look well.
for exemple Tunisia new constitution is not secular,it's Islamic.
Translate it from French to English

tunisie-constitution.org


Some countries are partly Islamic.

 

[Kirran]

You did not mentionned to countries ,you were talkin about stone homosexaulity and atheism. I don't know which country from countries I mentionned are used to stone the gay or atheists !

Homosexuality carries the death penalty in Saudi Arabia, Mauritania, Sudan, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Brunei, Yemen, northern Nigeria and jurisdictions governed by IS and Al-Shabaab. Leaving Islam carries the death penalty in Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Mauritania, Sudan, Iran, the UAE, Somalia, Brunei, Qatar, Afghanistan and Pakistan.

excusm me ,I don't get this .

If a system can be so easily abused, why give it so much power? When the consequences are so dire.

You don't look well.
for exemple Tunisia new constitution is not secular,it's Islamic.
Translate it from French to English

tunisie-constitution.org

http://www.tunisie-constitution.org/fr

Ah, my facts were not up to date! You may remove that country from that list. The remaining 14 countries still stand.

Some countries are partly Islamic.

Yeah, that's another category of countries. It includes Morocco, Algeria, Somalia etc, and also in the case of the Muslim minorities in countries such as Tanzania and India.

 

[Brian Schuh]

Which is just a law of retaliation that has been outdated for centuries and replaced by the modern justice system. You ignore why people steal such a poverty yet expect people without money to pay the victim as if they can. Again people like you only look at crime but not the cause. Also this style of law does involve mutilation as per Iran as they literal look at it as an eye for an eye

When you figure out we are talking about Sharia law let me know.



I was talking about Sharia which is the topic which does contain the law I was talking about.

Hand for dollar is NOT eye for eye justice. Shariah law does NOT uphold eye for eye. Do you know how to read?

 

[Brian Schuh]

Hand for dollar is NOT eye for eye justice. Shariah law does NOT uphold eye for eye. Do you know how to read?

The modern justice system is not as gentle as eye for eye justice. Are you mentally retarded?

 

[Brian Schuh]

Which is just a law of retaliation that has been outdated for centuries and replaced by the modern justice system. You ignore why people steal such a poverty yet expect people without money to pay the victim as if they can. Again people like you only look at crime but not the cause. Also this style of law does involve mutilation as per Iran as they literal look at it as an eye for an eye

When you figure out we are talking about Sharia law let me know.



I was talking about Sharia which is the topic which does contain the law I was talking about.

Shariah law does NOT believe in literal eye for eye justice. They believe in a hand for a dollar justice. Are you slow any kind of way?

 

[psychoslice]

This is getting good, where's the popcorn.

 

[Brian Schuh]

The 2nd does not give us a provision for armed revolution. Defense, yes, but attempting to overthrow the government is a crime.

That depends if you acknowledge a Creator who has endowed us with inalienable rights. I mean, was it a crime American revolutionaries revolted against the Brits?

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

That depends if you acknowledge a Creator who has endowed us with inalienable rights. I mean, was it a crime American revolutionaries revolted against the Brits?

Yes. It was sedition at best, treason at worst.

 

[Baroodi]

Which is just a law of retaliation that has been outdated for centuries and replaced by the modern justice system. You ignore why people steal such a poverty yet expect people without money to pay the victim as if they can. Again people like you only look at crime but not the cause. Also this style of law does involve mutilation as per Iran as they literal look at it as an eye for an eye

When you figure out we are talking about Sharia law let me know.



I was talking about Sharia which is the topic which does contain the law I was talking about.

 

[Brian Schuh]

Yes. It was sedition at best, treason at worst.

Eye for eye tooth for tooth is not to be construed as retaliation. It is equal and exact justice. To take 2 teeth for 1 tooth is itself a crime. To take a hand for a dollar is a travesty.

 

[Milton Platt]

What is wrong with sharia law? A law like that could help most criminal regions like Americas (2 continents) get back on the right track. Wouldn't you think so?

I see nothing about middle eastern countries that I much admire when it comes to lawfulness.

 

[Baroodi]

This reflects misunderstanding of Sharia law and Islam as usual. Not every one who steal will get his hand chopped. The context of the incident encompass a lot of factors. These include the reason, why he or she did that. Hungry want to eat? Or what? Secondly what amount of money was stolen. Thirdly the socioeconomic status of the individual taken in relation to the economical status of the community. Omer the second Khaliph in famine time suspended this rule altogether. Lastly not least what was the age, physical and mental capacity of the accused.
The one who steal your the crop of your efforts of years in one day will set the whole community back and can disrupt families life

 

[Shadow Wolf]

That depends if you acknowledge a Creator who has endowed us with inalienable rights. I mean, was it a crime American revolutionaries revolted against the Brits?

Yes, but that does not mean they bestowed us with the right of armed revolution. They didn't. There is no explicit right in the Constitution to armed revolution, but there are laws against it.

 

[Brian Schuh]

Yes, but that does not mean they bestowed us with the right of armed revolution. They didn't. There is no explicit right in the Constitution to armed revolution, but there are laws against it.

To not revolt against an oppressive government might be a crime.

 

[Brian Schuh]

Yes. It was sedition at best, treason at worst.

Okay, let us take this a step further. Was it a crime for Moses to ask pharaoh to let his people go to Mt. Sinai to sacrifice to God and then return? Was it a crime for Moses to kill all of Egypt's firstborn by magic or power of God or whatever if pharaoh refused to release the slaves?

If the people refuse to be governed by their government, since the people are the ones who set the government in power, it is the people who are responsible to despose of the government that has their authority by the consent of the governed.

 

[Notanumber]

If moderate Muslims were to rise up against brutal Islam, that would be a good thing.

 

[Jedster]

If moderate Muslims were to rise up against brutal Islam, that would be a good thing.

Many do, but not enough publicity is given to the many Muslims that do speak against the terrorism.

 

[Godobeyer]

Homosexuality carries the death penalty in Saudi Arabia, Mauritania, Sudan, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Brunei, Yemen, northern Nigeria and jurisdictions governed by IS and Al-Shabaab. Leaving Islam carries the death penalty in Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Mauritania, Sudan, Iran, the UAE, Somalia, Brunei, Qatar, Afghanistan and Pakistan.

I don't take media claims as facts.
Give me exemples of people killed because of these reasons in each of these countries you input, then. we will talk.

Ah, my facts were not up to date! You may remove that country from that list. The remaining 14 countries still stand.

I just verify/check Tunisia,it's could be some of others too.

 

[Godobeyer]

Yeah, that's another category of countries. It includes Morocco, Algeria, Somalia etc, and also in the case of the Muslim minorities in countries such as Tanzania and India.

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Muslims are majority in Algeria and Morocco.
So Algeria and Morocco and most of Arabic world used sharia law.

The only country where non-Muslims are not majority but used sharia law is UAE.