What is wrong with sharia law?

[Shad]

What is wrong with sharia law? A law like that could help most criminal regions like Americas get back on the right track. Wouldn't you think so?

It uses social justice rather than individual justice. It uses law to establish an authoritarian system that restricts free speech, free thought and freedom of expression. It is a failure for the nations that use it doing nothing to resolve actual issues that face the nation like the economy instead it focus on what hat you are not wearing.

Why do I want a failure of a system to fix a western system that is not only more effective, more efficient and more successful than Sharia, the solution you propose. It doesn't work in nation that actually believe in it, why would it work in nation that doesn't believe in Sharia. Let just ignore all the human rights abuses of these nations that follow Sharia.

This thread is hilarious.....

 

[psychoslice]

Like cutting hands for stealing and prohibition of alcohol. Those two things could help a lot especially in eastern Europe and Americas continents.

My father in Ukraine always have to take his cars stereo interface with him because it would get stolen according to him. Ukraine is not even on top 3 most criminal nations.

I was talking to a guy at the gym the other day, he told me his friends Rolex watch got stolen in Europe by gypsies who are from eastern Europe.

Sounds barbaric to me, we should be able to enjoy our drinking, not everyone becomes an idiot when drinking, and cutting hands of is just disgusting, no other word for it.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

I'm curious as to what the homicide rates would be in the Muslim world when you factor in things approved by some interpretations of sharia such as honour killings, murder of blasphemers (state-sponsored or otherwise), murder of apostates (state-sponsored or otherwise), murder of non-Muslims (state-sponsored or otherwise).

 

[suncowiam]

It might be easier to ask what is right with Sharia Law instead.

Exit question: What is wrong with human animals who like Sharia Law?

You beat me to it again and stole all my frubals!

 

[Neo Deist]

I have a question for you. Why are gyms in USA closed on December 25th?

Mine was open.

 

[EmperorSwordMan]

The problem is the persecution, like the killing of non-muslims and gays under sharia law, also the persecution of women. Sharia law is also very unlikely in a country where only 0.09 percent of the population are muslims. Under sharia there's to much religious law and interference involved, I know lowering crime rates is a good idea, but it removes the basic freedoms we have as human beings, like the right to choose our own spiritual paths. I also don't think cutting people's hands off for drinking is a good idea, that's just plain barbaric.

 

[Neo Deist]

What is wrong with sharia law?

I have one more...just because I am in a mood.

The women have to be covered from head to toe, because apparently Muslim men don't have any self control and would give in to lust, if they saw a beautiful woman.

Meanwhile, women from around the world wear bikinis (or less) on the beaches, and there does not seem to be a problem of men losing self control. I go to the beach every year (sometimes twice) and I have yet to see a rape fest taking place because someone can't control their animal side.

 

[Adramelek]

Sharia law will never be an aspect of American law. Such is a futile Islamic spiritual pipe dream!

 

[Brian Schuh]

Who ever said there is something wrong with sharia law? I am ignorant here. What IS wrong with sharia law? Did someone important say there is something wrong with it?

The Jews have had their own law and their own courts all through US history. No one has ever had a problem with it. Why should it be different for Muslims? If one Jew disobeyed the Jewish court, he always had the option to take his opponent before a US court. Who has a problem with again?

 

[Brian Schuh]

It is US tradition that different groups take care of their own problems without burdening the state government. So we have always allowed Jews to hold their own courts. This is better than a bunch of quibbling ratting persons consuming tax dollars with unnecessary court cases. Can I get an amen?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I have a question for you. Why are gyms in USA closed on December 25th?

Many places are closed on that day because of Christmas.

Who ever said there is something wrong with sharia law? I am ignorant here. What IS wrong with sharia law? Did someone important say there is something wrong with it?

Pretty much everyone who isn't a Muslim has gripes over it. What's wrong with it is pretty much the same reason as what's wrong with Biblical law. Most of us would be dead over a number of stupid and trivial things. Women would be heavily subjugated, repressed, and much beneath the status of men. Homosexuality is a capital offense. Things such as freedom of the press, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and freedom of ideology do not exist. Laws and morality are not based on facts, logic, reason, and principles such individual justice and less harm, but rather what someone wrote in a book centuries, or even thousands of years ago, back when we believed demons were possessing people to cause illness because we knew nothing of germs and neurotransmitters.

 

[Brian Schuh]

Many places are closed on that day because of Christmas.

Pretty much everyone who isn't a Muslim has gripes over it. What's wrong with it is pretty much the same reason as what's wrong with Biblical law. Most of us would be dead over a number of stupid and trivial things. Women would be heavily subjugated, repressed, and much beneath the status of men. Homosexuality is a capital offense. Things such as freedom of the press, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and freedom of ideology do not exist. Laws and morality are not based on facts, logic, reason, and principles such individual justice and less harm, but rather what someone wrote in a book centuries, or even thousands of years ago, back when we believed demons were possessing people to cause illness because we knew nothing of germs and neurotransmitters.

Wait a second. You are jumping the gun. First of all sharia law has no jurisdiction over criminal law, just like Jewish courts in the US can't whip a Jew for eating pork, nor stone a Jew for breaking the Sabbath. This doesn't mean Jewish courts have no authority or jurisdiction. Same with sharia courts.

 

[ronki23]

I support most points in Sharia law except the big pink elephant it brings: Non Muslims are treated as second class citizens and apostasy from Islam / prozetylising (spelling?) can mean death for the non Muslim.

 

[Brian Schuh]

If we can't allow the Muslims their own courts, what is next? Not allowing the Jews their own courts? Where does this stop? What if I and one I'm arguing with can't agree to a mediator, what? Unless the mediator is tax paid with a license to practice law? It is longheld US tradition that you handle your own disputes before relying on government courts and their officers.

 

[Spiderman]

Cutting off a hand for theft is too much

 

[Brian Schuh]

Cutting off a hand for theft is too much

Like I said, just like Jewish courts in the US can't stone a Jew for breaking the Sabbath, how do you believe shariah law will have more jurisdiction over Muslims than a Beit Din has over two Jews in an argument? Where does this stop? If two Muslims can't legally agree to settle their argument before an agreed upon mediator, then what? Will you outlaw a Beit Din for settling a dispute between two Jews?

 

[Kemosloby]

What is wrong with sharia law? A law like that could help most criminal regions like Americas (2 continents) get back on the right track. Wouldn't you think so?

Laws are notoriously good at creating criminals. We have enough thanks...

 

[sovietchild]

Many places are closed on that day because of Christmas.

I don't know if I should chat about this or not. The company that I work for lost a customer and $44,000 dollars because they refused to work on Christmas day. The customer came and took all the parts.

 

[Brian Schuh]

Like I said, just like Jewish courts in the US can't stone a Jew for breaking the Sabbath, how do you believe shariah law will have more jurisdiction over Muslims than a Beit Din has over two Jews in an argument? Where does this stop? If two Muslims can't legally agree to settle their argument before an agreed upon mediator, then what? Will you outlaw a Beit Din for settling a dispute between two Jews?

Many places are closed on that day because of Christmas.

Pretty much everyone who isn't a Muslim has gripes over it. What's wrong with it is pretty much the same reason as what's wrong with Biblical law. Most of us would be dead over a number of stupid and trivial things. Women would be heavily subjugated, repressed, and much beneath the status of men. Homosexuality is a capital offense. Things such as freedom of the press, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and freedom of ideology do not exist. Laws and morality are not based on facts, logic, reason, and principles such individual justice and less harm, but rather what someone wrote in a book centuries, or even thousands of years ago, back when we believed demons were possessing people to cause illness because we knew nothing of germs and neurotransmitters.

First off, the US, at least in the USA has jurisdiction over criminal law regardless of ANY private religious court and even any Beit Din (Jewish court) is restricted significantly in civil law. We as Americans have always allowed the Beit Din (Jewish court) so why not a private court based on shariah law?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Wait a second. You are jumping the gun. First of all sharia law has no jurisdiction over criminal law,

Yes, it does. It has courts for many offenses, including drinking alcohol, fornication, and apostasy. If you look to places like Saudi Arabia, they have "morality police." You need to educate yourself on what Sharia actually is if you think it has no jurisdiction over criminal affairs. The eye witness account "weight" isn't even equal under Sharia in court.