What is wrong with sharia law?

[YmirGF]

It is US tradition that different groups take care of their own problems without burdening the state government. So we have always allowed Jews to hold their own courts. This is better than a bunch of quibbling ratting persons consuming tax dollars with unnecessary court cases. Can I get an amen?

So you are good with Sharia courts unfairly dividing an estate in favor of males over females? What's wrong with one set of laws for all?

 

[psychoslice]

Is throwing a homosexual of a building head first part of this barbaric law ?.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

First off, the US, at least in the USA has jurisdiction over criminal law regardless of ANY private religious court and even any Beit Din (Jewish court) is restricted significantly in civil law. We as Americans have always allowed the Beit Din (Jewish court) so why not a private court based on shariah law?

Notice your own choice words of "based on" rather than letting them have "full-on" Sharia running their lives. Muslims would have to be willing to accept these significant restrictions, because, much like with Jewish law according to the Tanakh, things such as slavery and gender-discrimination just have no place in society regardless of what some religious text might have to say about it.

 

[Spiderman]

Is throwing a homosexual of a building head first part of this barbaric law ?.

Yes...they do

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Is throwing a homosexual of a building head first part of this barbaric law ?.

Not necessarily off a building head first, but "three for three" of the religious books for the Abrahamic religions mandate their death. "Their blood is on them" says the first book.

 

[psychoslice]

Yes...they do

That is just so wrong, their certainly on a whole different wavelength that's for sure, not one I would like to be on.

 

[Brian Schuh]

Yes, it does. It has courts for many offenses, including drinking alcohol, fornication, and apostasy. If you look to places like Saudi Arabia, they have "morality police." You need to educate yourself on what Sharia actually is if you think it has no jurisdiction over criminal affairs. The eye witness account "weight" isn't even equal under Sharia in court.

Are you aware that the Jehovah Witness church has some similar system? Even over alcohol and fornication? Yet the worst they can do is disfellowship you as they don't have the guns the cops do nor keys to the jails. Should their "courts" be outlawed as well?

 

[sovietchild]

Is throwing a homosexual of a building head first part of this barbaric law ?.

Every country is different I believe. For example in Yemen unmarried men face whipping or one year in prison.

In Saud Arabia under the country’s interpretation of sharia law, a married man engaging in sodomy or any non-Muslim who commits sodomy with a Muslim can be stoned to death. All sex outside of marriage is illegal.

 

[psychoslice]

Not necessarily off a building head first, but "three for three" of the religious books for the Abrahamic religions mandate their death. "Their blood is on them" says the first book.

Could you explain that a bit further please ?.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Are you aware that the Jehovah Witness church has some similar system? Even over alcohol and fornication? Yet the worst they can do is disfellowship you as they don't have the guns the cops do nor keys to the jails. Should their "courts" be outlawed as well?

That's not much of a court. And the OP is in reference to Sharia, not a hypothetically "heavily neutered" version of it.

 

[psychoslice]

Every country is different I believe. For example in Yemen unmarried men face whipping or one year in prison.

In Saud Arabia under the country’s interpretation of sharia law, a married man engaging in sodomy or any non-Muslim who commits sodomy with a Muslim can be stoned to death. All sex outside of marriage is illegal.

So because I have never been married I'm in for it ?.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Could you explain that a bit further please ?.

The Tanakh, New Testament, and Quran, the "three for three," all mandate that homosexuals be put to death. The Tanakh itself goes as far to say that the blood of homosexuals is on them.

 

[psychoslice]

The Tanakh, New Testament, and Quran, the "three for three," all mandate that homosexuals be put to death. The Tanakh itself goes as far to say that the blood of homosexuals is on them.

Yes I see now, and yes the bible does say that, but who today obeys that backward law, no civilized person would think twice of doing such a thing.

 

[Brian Schuh]

The bottomline- any two in a dispute can agree to a mediator, according to the bible and United States law no matter if that mediator is tax paid, with a license to practice law, a judge or none of the above. In fact, we smile on those who handle their own disputes without further burdening the courts.

 

[psychoslice]

No, I cannot ever see the sharia law working in the Western countries, we would all have to go backward in our morals, I can see why now their heaven is full of rivers of flowing wine, and all the virgins, what we suppress will in some way surface.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

The bottomline- any two in a dispute can agree to a mediator, according to the bible and United States law no matter if that mediator is tax paid, with a license to practice law, a judge or none of the above. In fact, we smile on those who handle their own disputes without further burdening the courts.

The Bible isn't a valid source of legal authority in America.

 

[Brian Schuh]

That's not much of a court. And the OP is in reference to Sharia, not a hypothetically "heavily neutered" version of it.

Like the Beit Din for Jews, obey the Jewish court and don't take another Jew before a heathen court, or what? Well, as we have no whips, jails nor gallows, we will frown on you. Same with shariah law, it will be rendered just as impotent as a Beit Din. But we must allow it to exist.

 

[wicketkeeper]

My answer is no. I live in the UK and would oppose Sharia Law as would many others. If you want to live under Sharia Law then go to a Muslim country.

 

[Brian Schuh]

The Bible isn't a valid source of legal authority in America.

Actually, lex talionus which literally means "the laws of retaliation" or more commonly understood "eye for eye and tooth for tooth" is the foundation of US criminal law. The judeo-Christian ethic is the foundation of our society.

 

[Brian Schuh]

My answer is no. I live in the UK and would oppose Sharia Law as would many others. If you want to live under Sharia Law then go to a Muslim country.

And if I don't want to waste your tax dollars and choose instead to be heard before a Beit Din with my opponent's consent, should I be forced to immigrate to Israel?