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What is wrong with sharia law?

Kirran

Premium Member
What make them fell that way ?

In my view, ignorance, basically.

I disagree with this .

How come?

Really !
How about Hinduism tradition ?

Traditions don't tell anyone to do anything. They're not people.

You wrong . I will PM about this .

I look forward ;)

You just make it as fact, it's could change, and people are lying about in Youtube and Wikipedia,and other sources !

I didn't make it a fact. It has been agreed to be fact by the consensus of the professionals in the appropriate medical field.

It's wonder how it's just about 1 or two cases could turned from homosexuality, in your opinion !
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As a result of "gay cure" therapies, I mean, yeah that's what the evidence suggests. It's too deeply rooted for us to be able to change it artificially, although a few people's sexualities may change over their lives in a natural and non-controlled process. Especially during puberty.

You know what I mean,verses of bible are very clear.
the interpretations can't be load in.

There are verses of the Bible just as clear condemning wearing clothes of mixed fabric. Most Christians have a different understanding of the Bible than you have of the Qur'an.

Thanks for editing!
 

The Kilted Heathen

Crow FreyjasmaðR
So you knew that Bible is against homosexuality ?
Against, no. Leviticus originally outlines a code of ethics for worship at the temple. The section commonly (mis)quoted against homosexuality outlines cleanliness before entering the temple, specifically to wash after sex.

But if you're going to point to the bible as example, then you'd better go all the way. Cherry-picking is a fool's gambit, and shows your motives to be yours and yours alone.
 

Kirran

Premium Member
I don't know if @Ingledsva might have an interest in commenting on homosexuality in the Bible? Or keeping an eye out ready to pounce on claims, anyway.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
You wrong.

Some of them want.

There is friend here in RF gay, he wanted to be straight but he can't .
If I understand what you are saying, he is just confirming that it is not a choice to be homosexual, and that it is very hard to deal with the rejection of society.
 

Segev Moran

Well-Known Member
What is wrong with sharia law? A law like that could help most criminal regions like Americas (2 continents) get back on the right track. Wouldn't you think so?
Depends on what you define as "Get back on the track".
How do you know you are on the right track?
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
Depends on what you define as "Get back on the track".
How do you know you are on the right track?

Islamists think they know they are on the right track because that is what they have been brainwashed to think.

It is going to take a lot of deprogramming to change that.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
If I understand what you are saying, he is just confirming that it is not a choice to be homosexual, and that it is very hard to deal with the rejection of society.
No , I think many of you here think that gay people don't want to become straight, and it's their final destiny.

Which I totally disagree .
 

Kirran

Premium Member
No , I think many of you here think that gay people don't want to become straight, and it's their final destiny.

Which I totally disagree .

Even if they do want to become straight, they can't. Any more than a black person can become a white person at a biological level.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Even if they do want to become straight, they can't. Any more than a black person can become a white person at a biological level.
I disagree with this.

They can,and they married to opposite gender.

It's not same case,but It's happened with MJ he turned him self to white person.
 

Kirran

Premium Member
I disagree with this.

They can,and they married to opposite gender.

It's not same case,but It's happened with MJ he turned him self to white person.

The fact they're married to the opposite gender doesn't make you not gay.

Consider the case of Omar Mateen. He was a young Muslim who was attracted to people of the same sex. Maybe we'd call him gay, bisexual, whatever. He was taught his whole life that this was wrong, he was raised in a homophobic environment. But he couldn't do anything about it, he couldn't change who he was, so he developed all this hatred towards himself, towards women, towards gay people. And so he shot 49 people and got himself killed in doing so.

Yeah, he had his skin changed colour through surgery - but I think you can see the point!

Can I become an Arab?
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
The fact they're married to the opposite gender doesn't make you not gay.

Consider the case of Omar Mateen. He was a young Muslim who was attracted to people of the same sex. Maybe we'd call him gay, bisexual, whatever. He was taught his whole life that this was wrong, he was raised in a homophobic environment. But he couldn't do anything about it, he couldn't change who he was, so he developed all this hatred towards himself, towards women, towards gay people. And so he shot 49 people and got himself killed in doing so.
That's kind of not pure gay relation.

Yeah, he had his skin changed colour through surgery - but I think you can see the point!
So everthing is possible for human.

Can I become an Arab?
Yes,if you speak Arabic.
 

Kirran

Premium Member
That's kind of not pure gay relation.

What are you talking about?

It's same sex attraction. And it's homophobia just like what you're teaching which made him a murderer, and made him die. As someone who preaches the same hatred, you are responsible for the deaths of those 50 people, in my view.

So everthing is possible for human.

No, it isn't!

Yes,if you speak Arabic.

That's all it takes? My mum's an Arab then, she learnt Arabic in Oman and Palestine!
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
What are you talking about?

It's same sex attraction. And it's homophobia just like what you're teaching which made him a murderer, and made him die. As someone who preaches the same hatred, you are responsible for the deaths of those 50 people, in my view.
If it's about same sex attraction,so why they married to opposite sex !



No, it isn't!
It's happened that MJ become white, you said it's not possible.



That's all it takes? My mum's an Arab then, she learnt Arabic in Oman and Palestine!
So you are Arab by origin,not langauge !
 

Kirran

Premium Member

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Because they're forced to by societal pressures, because society is homophobic.
Here everyone is free,even women,no one force.
No one force someone to marry.




Ah he had his skin changed colour, he hardly became biologically of European ancestry.
back to orgin point why you believe that JUST two cases happened that gay turn to straight .
since there are many claim they did !


Yay, that was easy :) I'm an Arab now!
Indeed it is.

also ,Arabic is almost about language;also every one speak Arabic(with some local accent),I personaly will consider him/her Arabic (whatever he look like). I will not look to it's origin, only if she/he want to.
 

Kirran

Premium Member
Here everyone is free,even women,no one force.
No one force someone to marry.

This is a deeply ignorant statement regarding the nature of deep-rooted societal discrimination and prejudice.

back to orgin point why you believe that JUST two cases happened that gay turn to straight .
since there are many claim they did !

Because so many people who've said this will eventually turn around and say 'actually, I was lying to myself; I can't change who I am'. So I don't believe it is possible. And there's no problem being gay anyway!

Indeed it is.

also ,Arabic is almost about language;also every one speak Arabic(with some local accent),I personaly will consider him/her Arabic (whatever he look like). I will not look to it's origin, only if she/he want to.

Great, I can join the club of RF Arabs.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
This is a deeply ignorant statement regarding the nature of deep-rooted societal discrimination and prejudice.
I don't made prejudice.


Because so many people who've said this will eventually turn around and say 'actually, I was lying to myself; I can't change who I am'. So I don't believe it is possible. And there's no problem being gay anyway!

Ah you taking about some people lied ?

So you make generalizing that all homosexual people whom turned to straight are liars ?


Great, I can join the club of RF Arabs.
Yes we don't have club.
 
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