You haven't shown me that the DNA was designed. Can you?
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What is wrong with those people who don't believe in God?
- Thread starter sovietchild
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Ben Avraham
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What was the composition of the big bang before it caused the universe to exist?
The big bang didn't cause the universe to exist. The universe has always existed and always been expanding.
psychoslice
Veteran Member
I can't but science have a good idea, well, a much better idea than the religious.
Ben Avraham
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How do you know they have a much better idea? Have you ever talked to any of them about the Primal Cause versus the Universe?
Ben Avraham
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Tell me, Artie, do you think we are parts of the Universe? If you think as I do, the answer is positive; yes we are parts of the Universe. Do you think we have always existed? Evidences abound that the answer is negative. How could the Universe be composed of temporary parts if it has always existed? Besides, the main composition of the Universe is matter and matter cannot have always existed. Do you still think that the Universe has always existed or do I have to expand a little further? BTW, how could the Universe have always existed if it is always expanding? Last but not least, the Scientists speak about the age of the Universe. Let's say 14 billions of years or... it doesn't matter. If the Universe has an age, it is only obvious that it could not have always existed. Are you still there? Well, enough for today!
The idea of a First Causer is nothing more than undue extrapolation of human neurological tendencies on existence itself.
Yes.
Our bodies haven't always existed. Our bodies are composed of different elements. Here is how the elements came to exist. The Origin of The Elements
We are made of stardust.
What?
Time has only existed for 14 billion years. Time has existed as long as the universe has existed. The universe has existed as long as there has been time. Time and the universe are so to speak dependent on each other for existence. You can say the universe was ten seconds old, then nine seconds old, then eight seconds old but when you reach zero seconds old there is no universe or time before that since all the laws of nature break down and there is nothing that can be recognized as a universe or time. Then you have reached the domain of quantum theory.
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Ben Avraham
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And who or what put the stardust together to form what man came out to be? If you have some problem to figure that one, you are allowed to read Genesis 2:7 about the Genesis allegory for the origin of man. Regarding time, it is an accident of matter. Since the Universe is composed of matter, time goes along with the Universe. Explain the quantum theory please. I read Einstein about quantum mechanics and he said that it was a theory that never made sense to him. Before you react to that, remember that he died only in 1956. Not too long ago. Still another word about the stardust for the formation of man, stars are parts of the Universe. Are you gonna tell me who or what caused the stars to exist?
paarsurrey
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Post #1 sovietchild, Nov 24, 2016
The OP or anybody else.Please provide quotes of Quran for Muhammad.
Thanks and regards
There are plenty of online resources and books explaining quantum theory. Try to make an effort educating yourself.
Why don't you get someone to explain to you how to use a search engine? This is getting really embarrassing for you. Star Formation
sovietchild
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What do you mean by quotes of Quran for Muhammad?
psychoslice
Veteran Member
It doesn't matter because they would know more about that question than you ever could using religion, you just cannot win.
wicketkeeper
Living From the Heart.
I am more than curious as to how All of This came to be ! I have read enough books on a such a topic. All I can offer would be a theory, which will be as valvid as the Big Bang Theory. Strange timing as I am reading the book of Genesis, which is full of metaphor and allegory, that we would be discussing the origin of Life.
Maybe there has always been Life ? Because nothing cannot can come from nothing. Maybe the Source of All wanted to play a War Craft type of game and we are the result - all life on this planet. We are no more than waves of experience given a limited intelligence and a name. There you go !
I agree with the Tao. Go read those lines again.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
What is wrong with those people who don't believe in God?
They have not understood the concept of G-d with the attributes mentioned in Quran correctly.
The must rectify their concept, therefore. Right? Please
Regards
They have not understood the concept of G-d with the attributes mentioned in Quran correctly.
The must rectify their concept, therefore. Right? Please
Regards
Many of us understand the God of Ibrahim just fine.
We also find the idea very arbitrary and not worth bothering about. If anything, it is one of the rare conceptions of deities that can actually be demonstrated false.
Ben Avraham
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Life cannot always have existed. The natural according to the reality of human life on earth is that one is born, lives his span of life and dies. If you go back according to the concept of Causality, life starts and ends until the first who was born and died. That's when place is found for the Primal Cause.
Ben Avraham
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I am not using religion. I am using Physics and Logic. What do you know about them? If your lack of an answer to my question was fear that I was using religion, forget it! Answer me according to Physics and Logic.
Ben Avraham
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The embarrassment is not with me but with you who does not know how to answer my questions about your beliefs.
wicketkeeper
Living From the Heart.
I've had an empty fish bowl for years and it remains devoid of fish. I was hoping to see some fish, especially after 20 years.
Changing track: I have encountered beings from other dimensions when sober. A friend of mine communicates with those who have exited their physical vehicles. Its not something he wants to do and freaks his wife out. Strange world is it not !