What is wrong with those people who get tattoos?

[Sonofason]

You can deny this all you want, but, factually, many piercings exist to enhance sexual gratification, reasons that are outside of "pride" and "self-worth."

"For the world offers only a craving for physical pleasure, a craving for everything we see, and pride in our achievements and possessions. These are not from the Father, but are from this world."

If a person is content with their life as it is, they do not strive for more. When a person is dissatisfied with what they have and with what they are they strive for more. This is true with regard to money, and it is true with regard to sexual pleasure. If you go out and get piercings to enhance your sexual pleasure, it is because you are lacking something in yourself to be content with what you already have.

 

[Kirran]

"For the world offers only a craving for physical pleasure, a craving for everything we see, and pride in our achievements and possessions. These are not from the Father, but are from this world."

If a person is content with their life as it is, they do not strive for more. When a person is dissatisfied with what they have and with what they are they strive for more. This is true with regard to money, and it is true with regard to sexual pleasure. If you go out and get piercings to enhance your sexual pleasure, it is because you are lacking something in yourself to be content with what you already have.

Is this true for all pleasures? Like having a cup of tea, seeing your friends, having a warm shower, wearing comfortable clothing?

 

[Sonofason]

Is this true for all pleasures? Like having a cup of tea, seeing your friends, having a warm shower, wearing comfortable clothing?

Deriving pleasure from seeing your friends is not sin and is as white as snow.. But to see your friends in order to experience pleasure introduces a shade of gray.
To feed the poor because it is the right thing to do is as white as snow. To feed the poor because you desire to feel the pleasure you might experience from feeding the poor introduces shades of grey.

 

[Kirran]

Deriving pleasure from seeing your friends is not sin and is as white as snow.. But to see your friends in order to experience pleasure introduces a shade of gray.
To feed the poor because it is the right thing to do is as white as snow. To feed the poor because you desire to feel the pleasure you might experience from feeding the poor introduces shades of grey.

But presumably we don't go all out and condemn those who go and see their friends cos they enjoy hanging out with them?

 

[SkepticThinker]

"For the world offers only a craving for physical pleasure, a craving for everything we see, and pride in our achievements and possessions. These are not from the Father, but are from this world."

If a person is content with their life as it is, they do not strive for more. When a person is dissatisfied with what they have and with what they are they strive for more. This is true with regard to money, and it is true with regard to sexual pleasure. If you go out and get piercings to enhance your sexual pleasure, it is because you are lacking something in yourself to be content with what you already have.

Where did you get your psychology or psychiatry degree from?

 

[Sonofason]

But presumably we don't go all out and condemn those who go and see their friends cos they enjoy hanging out with them?

I understand that. But we are all sinful. So I am only suggesting that it is more than likely that people who go out to see their friends because they derive pleasure from hanging out with their friends is not a motivation for wanting to go and hang out with their friends that is pure and as white as snow.

 

[sovietchild]

Where did you get your psychology or psychiatry degree from?

Hey please lets not go there.... Abraham Lincoln didn't graduate from high school, he never went there. He was a totally self-educated man.

This song for example was created by a man who never went to school to study music. He learned it on YouTube.

He made a hit.

 

[Sonofason]

Where did you get your psychology or psychiatry degree from?

Oh I do not need degree in psychology or psychiatry. Those are nothing more than pieces of paper to inflate the ego. I still have before me the remainder of my life for learning and understanding on this subject. But I do hope that my studies will be rewarded. A person can get a degree in just a few years. That is not nearly enough time to have a full understanding of a subject. For some people, even a life time of study is not sufficient. But I can assure you that I already have as much knowledge and understanding with regard to human nature than can be derived from any college or university.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Hey please lets not go there.... Abraham Lincoln didn't graduate from high school, he never went there. He was a totally self-educated man.

This song for example was created by a man who never went to school to study music. He learned it on YouTube.

He made a hit.

Would you go to a self-educated doctor? I wouldn't. Nor to one without any sort of oversight or responsibilities to hold their status and stature.

Just making things up about human psychology won't get you very far here, nor should it.

 

[sovietchild]

Would you go to a self-educated doctor? I wouldn't. Nor to one without any sort of oversight or responsibilities to hold their status and stature.

Just making things up about human psychology won't get you very far here, nor should it.

I actually did. My grandmother was a masseuse therapist and boy did I hated it, she was so strong. And there is acupuncture doctor that I go to, I like her better then the one who works in official hospital. Then there is those self educated gym trainers that I am not gonna talk about.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

I actually did. My grandmother was a masseuse therapist and boy did I hated it, she was so strong. And there is acupuncture doctor that I go to, I like her better then the one who works in official hospital. Then there is those self educated gym trainers that I am not gonna talk about.

None of those are doctors.
And here, you aren't allowed to practice massage or acupuncture or even gym training without education and licensure. But they aren't anywhere near the same level as doctors, and I say this as someone who massaged for a long time.

 

[sovietchild]

None of those are doctors.
And here, you aren't allowed to practice massage or acupuncture or even gym training without education and licensure. But they aren't anywhere near the same level as doctors, and I say this as someone who massaged for a long time.

Okay then who ever made that hit is not a musician according to your theory? Lets not go off topic? We can create a topic about it and debate.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Oh I do not need degree in psychology or psychiatry. Those are nothing more than pieces of paper to inflate the ego. I still have before me the remainder of my life for learning and understanding on this subject. But I do hope that my studies will be rewarded. A person can get a degree in just a few years. That is not nearly enough time to have a full understanding of a subject. For some people, even a life time of study is not sufficient. But I can assure you that I already have as much knowledge and understanding with regard to human nature than can be derived from any college or university.

Oh, so when you need brain surgery, you go to some guy that doesn't have a medical degree? When you need legal advice, do you call a veterinarian? Do you really think it's ethical or moral to give out psychiatric advice when you have no background in the field? Do you also give out medical advice?


People who get degrees and work in the field actually have to keep up on the literature, and in many cases have to continually produce work in their field. They don't just go to school for 4 years and then never take in any new information ever again. So for you to assert that you somehow know more than someone who has spent a lifetime studying and producing working in a specific field is just inane. I can assure you that you do not have as much knowledge and understanding with regard to human nature than can be derived from post-secondary education and a lifetime of study. And it shows in your posts.

 

[Sonofason]

Oh, so when you need brain surgery, you go to some guy that doesn't have a medical degree?

I don't need brain surgery. But if someone thought I did, I probably wouldn't have it. I do not fear death, nor do I fear brains that others believe require surgery.

When you need legal advice, do you call a veterinarian?

Well, first of all, if a lawyer were to give me legal advice, I may not take it. Just because a person is a layer does not mean he has good legal advice to give.
And if I thought that a veterinarian had good legal advice, I would certainly take his advice.

Do you really think it's ethical or moral to give out psychiatric advice when you have no background in the field?

Of course I do. If I had psychiatric advice to give someone, I think it would be wrong not to share it.

Do you also give out medical advice?

Of course I do, and so do you.

People who get degrees and work in the field actually have to keep up on the literature, and in many cases have to continually produce work in their field. They don't just go to school for 4 years and then never take in any new information ever again. So for you to assert that you somehow know more than someone who has spent a lifetime studying and producing working in a specific field is just inane. I can assure you that you do not have as much knowledge and understanding with regard to human nature than can be derived from post-secondary education and a lifetime of study. It shows in your posts.

Well, I have to keep up on the literature as well. It's not right to give advice if you do not keep up on the literature.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Okay then who ever made that hit is not a musician according to your theory? Lets not go off topic? We can create a topic about it and debate.

Once again, being a self-taught artist is nowhere like being a self-taught doctor. Nor would I trust a self-taught individual with no oversight or formal education with someone's physical or mental health.

It is on topic. Multiple people are claiming something is mentally wrong with people with tattoos when they have no actual medical reason to say so.

 

[Sonofason]

Once again, being a self-taught artist is nowhere like being a self-taught doctor. Nor would I trust a self-taught individual with no oversight or formal education with someone's physical or mental health.

It is on topic. Multiple people are claiming something is mentally wrong with people with tattoos when they have no actual medical reason to say so.

There are plenty of psychologists and psychiatrists who would disagree with what you just said.

 

[sovietchild]

Once again, being a self-taught artist is nowhere like being a self-taught doctor. Nor would I trust a self-taught individual with no oversight or formal education with someone's physical or mental health.

It is on topic. Multiple people are claiming something is mentally wrong with people with tattoos when they have no actual medical reason to say so.

Okay fine. In that case Trump should not be a president since he does not have any political experience. Nor did he go to the army since he is the highest rank in the army - The commander in Chief.

 

[McBell]

Where did you get your psychology or psychiatry degree from?

I would have to say Cracker Jack

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Okay fine. In that case Trump should not be a president since he does not have any political experience. Nor did he go to the army since he is the highest rank in the army - The commander in Chief.

Uh, I didn't vote for Trump. I don't think he should be president.
Thankfully, being a doctor isn't an elected position and its title is based on demonstration of tested knowledge and acceptance of oversight.

 

[Sonofason]

Uh, I didn't vote for Trump. I don't think he should be president.
Thankfully, being a doctor isn't an elected position and its title is based on demonstration of tested knowledge and acceptance of oversight.

Are you suggesting that there are not people in the world capable of being self taught the knowledge that doctors have that could pass the tests required of those who receive degrees for the same knowledge?