What is wrong with those people who think that a human can be God?

[LuisDantas]

What is so fine about it? Economy? National Icon? Promotes Brazil? I thought atheists would love to bring that statue down.

I don't much mind the statue - which, as it turns out, is in the city where I was born and that I had the opportunity to visit a long time ago. It is hardly problematic.

It is the abuse of the god-concepts that I find problematic.

 

[Augustus]

Does anybody make money out of the veneration of a certain black-covered structure in Makkah? Is there money being raked in by the malls and jewellery shops and posh hotels which surround Muhammad's tomb in Medina, and which fill Makkah?

Can hardly notice it, blends right in...

 

[Kirran]

Can hardly notice it, blends right in...

Medina! The Prophet's Tomb's surrounded by malls etc.

 

[Sakeenah]

Sovietchild's threads are always trending

 

[sunray]

Actually, in the Bible it says "You are gods" We are made in the image of God and that image contains the whole of God.
Jesus said my father is greater than I ......
The way I Iook at it is, If God is the Father then His Children, the whole human race ( individually and collectively), are gods in his image and in their own right and way!
Can a Child become greater than his father I hope so! So God is a God to be better than, not a God to be as good as, I think that's the way he would want it anyway....

 

[Tmac]

They have to overlook a lot of things or have a diminished definition of a god. Typically a god is considered all-knowing and immortal. A person believed to be a god can't be all-knowing since it's limited to the knowledge it possess and its space-time location. And a person can't be immortal since it was born and didn't exist before it was born.

If we think of existence as a whole or even part of a whole itself then humanity is but a part, now if we think of the whole as God then the parts equal the whole. God has no parts.

 

[Augustus]

Medina! The Prophet's Tomb's surrounded by malls etc.

I'd be furious if I were a Muslim.

Wait all of your life to go on the Hajj, purify your mind and try to feel in harmony with God. Then see that the holiest place in the world is literally overshadowed by an enormous, tacky, phallic, Las Vegas style Big Ben luxury hotel 300m from the Kaaba.

As long as rich people have a room with a Kaaba view, then who cares about the ambiance of the holy sites. Couldn't expect rich people to stay in a luxury hotel a few KMs away after all...

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

They have to overlook a lot of things or have a diminished definition of a god. Typically a god is considered all-knowing and immortal. A person believed to be a god can't be all-knowing since it's limited to the knowledge it possess and its space-time location. And a person can't be immortal since it was born and didn't exist before it was born.

Lots of gods were neither all-knowing nor immortal (or at least eternal). They could be ignorant and could be born and could die.

If so then why did he had to eat like regular people? God does not eat.

Other gods eat and drink and go pee.

by this we add to every indication of truth that is mathmatically conclusive of Jesus Christ, the Bible, and the Creator God.

I'm interested in seeing this "math" you speak of.

And not numerology nonsense, either. Numbers aren't magic.

Even by math and science He is proven. Not at all coincidences, its not mathmatically probable to dismiss all of them as coincidence, its unreasonable!

Look, I'm Christian, and this is just patently untrue.

Like Buddhism doesn't acknowledge Mohommad but they do acknowledge Jesus, and Islam doesn't acknowledge Buddha but they do acknowledge Jesus.

Acknowledge what, exactly?

Yet in Christianity we only acknowledge Jesus through the Old Testament.

That's impressive, since he's not there.

Where even the demons acknowledged Him!

Demons and Satan are said to be liars, so ...

All religions point to Jesus. Even in atheism, they acknowledge Him even if by a venomous hate for the God they say they don't believe in and they have been at war with Him since the dark ages.

Did you know Mickey Mouse was known to a lot of people all over the globe, even those who don't get the Disney Channel?

Add that to the time line in dating history and artifacts as A.D. and B.C. No matter how the atheist in the fields daing facts try to redefine these, its really to solid to impliment.

People in other cultures still have their own calendars, though. Jews may use BCE and CE for standard purposes, but they still use their own dating system. Every major culture used a calendar based on some important person or event.

And Israel is the point on the map that defines what is East and what is West.

Not so much. Greenwich Mean Time (the time zone) does not run through Israel.

If I knew the truth, even if I only were convinced of the truth I knew, I would be a cowardice scumbag, without scruples or heart to not tell someone the truth for fear of offending them or being ostracized or rejected by them.

God should let God do the marketing. He's the most familiar with the source material.

Telling someone the truth is actually loving them. Merely tolerating someone is not love at all, its just tolerance!

Having the humility to know you don't know all the Truth: priceless.

I'm convinced Truth is one of the witnesses spoken in Revelations.

Ironic, though.

or like the porky pine

This makes me wanna cry.

who fluffs out his spikes to look bigger

Not really. He's aiming his really frickin' painful spines at you. That's why only an idiot would go near one.

Truth is rare.

Actually, only Truth exists. It is literally everywhere. It is REALITY. Our awareness of it is rare. Ask the PORCUPINE.

The government! They the ones who put up that statue. Why? To make money....

Muslims don't have landmarks/tourist traps too?

The purpose was so he could relate to us in all our weakness. Book of Hebrews. Check it out.

Then why does Jesus have to come back and flamebroil billions of people to a crisp? Did he relate or not?

Its sad that the Islam god is so cruel and evil that it has directed its inhabitants to be destructive to their own and others.

You clearly have never read the bible.

It's not the statue that bothers me. It's the Brazil it self. They should take that statue down and start working on themselves.

But as it IS a tourist trap, if you take it down, you not only have to spend even MORE money to do so, which is money not in the pockets of the poor, but you also destroy the jobs of everyone in the tourist industry related to that particular icon.

Can a Child become greater than his father I hope so! So God is a God to be better than, not a God to be as good as, I think that's the way he would want it anyway....

Yeah, I mean, that's kinda the POINT of having kids, I thought, anyway.

 

[YmirGF]

I find it offensive message to repeat it that,which is nonsense.

This is not polite way to discover others beliefs.

Unfortunately, Godobeyer, you don't seem to understand that he was joking. That you took his joke seriously, by finding it offensive, makes the joke even funnier.

 

[DragonHawk1959]

Let’s contemplate for a moment. …A human who thinks that a human can be God… Do you think they wont to be gods themselves? Do they want to be the absolute rulers? Do they want to be the fashioners? Do they want to be the source of peace?

The closest rank to God is knowledge. What is wrong with those people who think that a human can be the all-knowing? Is it a fantasy? Are they deluded? Are they trying to help you? Or are they trying to deceive you in order to obtain money?

If a human worships a human, then how is it not a self-worship?

I believe they are not delusional in the sense that they see little green men or hear disembodied voices telling them to kill the local sports team or have worms living under their skin. They aren’t schizophrenic or hallucinating. No, they simply don’t deal in the truth. They have fantasy perceptions of the world around them (and the people in it) that they convince themselves are real. Rather like a child, they live in a pretend world. And like a child with an invisible friend, it is very, very real to them.

What is wrong with those people who think that a human can be God?

Who is to say a human could not be a god?
The legends are full of humans elevated to godhood. The Greek god of healing was originally mortal.

 

[YmirGF]

You know what? I agree. Except for the statue part. That is fine.

Forgive me, Luis, but with all the talk about Brazil, I'm a bit puzzled about the talk about the famous statue.
The famous statue is in Rio de Janeiro, which is in Argentina (overlooking Rio).

 

[Father Heathen]

What's wrong with people who think that there is something wrong with other people because they don't blindly adhere to the same arbitrary nonsense that he or she was indoctrinated into as a child?

 

[Kirran]

LOL, thank you but I also like brahma and shiva too.


the ultimate reality is not the Father, nor the Son, but some form of the Spirit of Love.
The Spirit of Love transforms..

all three agree, energy cannot be created(brahma), or destroyed(shiva), it is simply transformed(transmutable).

E = m(c*c)

energy is mass and mass is energy.

and information is energy, is power.

tat tvam asi

may the Force of Love be with you!!!!

Kalki
Revelation 19:11
[ The Heavenly Warrior Defeats the Beast ] I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and wages war.

You seem very fixed on the breakdown of Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva into the Creator, Preserver and Destroyer. That's only one view. For a worshipper absorbed in one, that one is everything. Shiva is the Creator, Preserver and Destroyer, the beginning and the end, the Alpha and the Omega. Shiva conceals, Shiva reveals, Shiva condemns and Shiva saves.

Anyway, physical energy is an observed phenomenon, I don't think it relates any more than anything else to the nature of God.

 

[Godobeyer]

Unfortunately, Godobeyer, you don't seem to understand that he was joking. That you took his joke seriously, by finding it offensive, makes the joke even funnier.

Unfortunately ,that's offensive and disrespectful joke

 

[Kirran]

Unfortunately ,that's offensive and disrespectful joke

How?!

 

[Jumi]

I have to agree with @Godobeyer here, I'm not Muslim and I think the joke was disrespectful. I understand people are getting annoyed from the topic, but I don't think it was needed.

 

[Kirran]

I have to agree with @Godobeyer here, I'm not Muslim and I think the joke was disrespectful. I understand people are getting annoyed from the topic, but I don't think it was needed.

It escalated from a verbal me-throwing-up-my-hands after being taken seriously!

 

[viole]

Let’s contemplate for a moment. …A human who thinks that a human can be God… Do you think they wont to be gods themselves? Do they want to be the absolute rulers? Do they want to be the fashioners? Do they want to be the source of peace?

The closest rank to God is knowledge. What is wrong with those people who think that a human can be the all-knowing? Is it a fantasy? Are they deluded? Are they trying to help you? Or are they trying to deceive you in order to obtain money?

If a human worships a human, then how is it not a self-worship?

I believe they are not delusional in the sense that they see little green men or hear disembodied voices telling them to kill the local sports team or have worms living under their skin. They aren’t schizophrenic or hallucinating. No, they simply don’t deal in the truth. They have fantasy perceptions of the world around them (and the people in it) that they convince themselves are real. Rather like a child, they live in a pretend world. And like a child with an invisible friend, it is very, very real to them.

What is wrong with those people who think that a human can be God?

Is your God visible?

Ciao

- viole

 

[Godobeyer]

I have to agree with @Godobeyer here, I'm not Muslim and I think the joke was disrespectful. I understand people are getting annoyed from the topic, but I don't think it was needed.

Thank you,for your input

I think most of people don't accept that other people make jokes about their top beliefs.

 

[LuisDantas]

I have to agree with @Godobeyer here, I'm not Muslim and I think the joke was disrespectful. I understand people are getting annoyed from the topic, but I don't think it was needed.

How is a claim that "all Muslims now that the shape of God is squid-like" disrespectful?

I kind of expected the offense, but that does not mean that I can make sense of it.