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What is wrong with those people who think that a human can be God?

Kirran

Premium Member
It seems to me that the OP truly means to ask how come there are people who use conceptions of god that are not all that divorced from humanity.

I am not sure there is a need for such an explanation. Some people just have been taught unrealistic expectations about other people's beliefs.

No, the OP's just resentful of the existence of doctrines which claim that particular humans are God. Pissed at Jesus, basically.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
No, the OP's just resentful of the existence of doctrines which claim that particular humans are God. Pissed at Jesus, basically.
That is hardly unique, though.

The Greek and the Japanese thought of themselves as descended from their own conceptions of deities. Haile Selassie and many others were sort of decreed divine without their own input as well.

Like it or not, Abrahamic Monotheism is not a drive that most people have. And that is ok.
 

Kirran

Premium Member
That is hardly unique, though.

The Greek and the Japanese thought of themselves as descended from their own conceptions of deities. Haile Selassie and many others were sort of decreed divine without their own input as well.

Like it or not, Abrahamic Monotheism is not a drive that most people have. And that is ok.

Polytheism is something quite different, and I'd say the Rastafari movement is just expanding on the Christian (and even Trinitarian) understanding. The latter is, like Christianity, a form of Abrahamic monotheism.

As you know, I am no Abrahamic.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Polytheism is something quite different, and I'd say the Rastafari movement is just expanding on the Christian (and even Trinitarian) understanding. The latter is, like Christianity, a form of Abrahamic monotheism.

As you know, I am no Abrahamic.
Fair enough... but doesn't it end up underscoring how little those conceptions share at the end of the day?
 

Kirran

Premium Member
Fair enough... but doesn't it end up underscoring how little those conceptions share at the end of the day?

The different Abrahamic conceptions? One should expect as much after 2500 years! Although they do still share a basis in classical monotheism, in a separate creator God etc. These views aren't universal within the faiths, but pantheism for example is a rare find within Abrahamism.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Polytheism is something quite different, and I'd say the Rastafari movement is just expanding on the Christian (and even Trinitarian) understanding. The latter is, like Christianity, a form of Abrahamic monotheism.

As you know, I am no Abrahamic.



The ultimate reality is neither Brahma, nor Shiva, but some form of Vishnu.


Galatians 4:24

Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Ghaggar

the other being Sarasvatti, the water of life, the key of knowledge is Love. jesus mentions it in the following.

Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered.


hagar was in bondage to sarai, or sarah.
ghaggar is a tributary of sarasvatti

Online Etymology Dictionary
 

David1967

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
It does not have to be a Christian. There is other religions out there who believe that a human can be god.



If so then why did he had to eat like regular people? God does not eat.

Do some research. Read the bible. The purpose was so he could relate to us in all our weakness. Book of Hebrews. Check it out.
 

Kirran

Premium Member
The ultimate reality is neither Brahma, nor Shiva, but some form of Vishnu.


Galatians 4:24

Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Ghaggar

the other being Sarasvatti, the water of life, the key of knowledge is Love. jesus mentions it in the following.

Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered.


hagar was in bondage to sarai, or sarah.
ghaggar is a tributary of sarasvatti

Online Etymology Dictionary

You're an unusual sort of Vaishnava, I'll say that.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
The different Abrahamic conceptions? One should expect as much after 2500 years! Although they do still share a basis in classical monotheism, in a separate creator God etc. These views aren't universal within the faiths, but pantheism for example is a rare find within Abrahamism.
I expect that variation, but then again I don't hope to sustain a whole doctrine on rigid expectations of consistency of those.
 

knh777

Member
Its sad that the Islam god is so cruel and evil that it has directed its inhabitants to be destructive to their own and others. Not many Muslim countries are thriving yet Israel has taken a desolate land in the midst of enemies and thrived.

Maybe allah and mohommad are the wrong god and prophet?
 

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
Let’s contemplate for a moment. …A human who thinks that a human can be God… Do you think they wont to be gods themselves? Do they want to be the absolute rulers? Do they want to be the fashioners? Do they want to be the source of peace?

The closest rank to God is knowledge. What is wrong with those people who think that a human can be the all-knowing? Is it a fantasy? Are they deluded? Are they trying to help you? Or are they trying to deceive you in order to obtain money?

If a human worships a human, then how is it not a self-worship?

I believe they are not delusional in the sense that they see little green men or hear disembodied voices telling them to kill the local sports team or have worms living under their skin. They aren’t schizophrenic or hallucinating. No, they simply don’t deal in the truth. They have fantasy perceptions of the world around them (and the people in it) that they convince themselves are real. Rather like a child, they live in a pretend world. And like a child with an invisible friend, it is very, very real to them.

What is wrong with those people who think that a human can be God?


Confusion here. What people are we talking about?????
 

sovietchild

Well-Known Member
Confusion here.

Yes I think you right. This topic is a fail. I meant to create a topic about people who proclaim certain people as gods. Invisible friends who are not there - can't help them, guide them or hear them.

The Cristo Redentor?

Does it bother you that much? Really?

It's not the statue that bothers me. It's the Brazil it self. They should take that statue down and start working on themselves.
 
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Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
You're an unusual sort of Vaishnava, I'll say that.

LOL, thank you but I also like brahma and shiva too.


the ultimate reality is not the Father, nor the Son, but some form of the Spirit of Love.
The Spirit of Love transforms..

all three agree, energy cannot be created(brahma), or destroyed(shiva), it is simply transformed(transmutable).

E = m(c*c)

energy is mass and mass is energy.

and information is energy, is power.

tat tvam asi

may the Force of Love be with you!!!!

Kalki
Revelation 19:11
[ The Heavenly Warrior Defeats the Beast ] I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and wages war.


 
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Kirran

Premium Member
I'm not convinced of the sense of characterising over 200 million people by a well-known statue found in their country.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
LOL, thank you.
Its sad that the Islam god is so cruel and evil that it has directed its inhabitants to be destructive to their own and others. Not many Muslim countries are thriving yet Israel has taken a desolate land in the midst of enemies and thrived.

Maybe allah and mohommad are the wrong god and prophet?


Common Misconceptions about Muslims | Encountering the World of Islam


Ahmadiyya - Wikipedia


Love dances in the heart of the Sufi mystic

 
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