What is your belief in regards to God?

[Desert Snake]

That's a tough one. I believe that Jesus was God's message to humanity. So, in essence, I guess that means that Jesus was part of God.

Hmm I see. Do you think, /in some ways/, Jesus could be considered to be the 'actual' or in the Bible, as put, ''image'', of God? I do find it a tad interesting that some people find an invisible Deity perfectly believable, but as soon as He manifests, it's ''unbelievable''.

 

[leibowde84]

Hmm I see. Do you think, /in some ways/, Jesus could be considered to be the 'actual' or in the Bible, as put, ''image'', of God? I do find it a tad interesting that some people find an invisible Deity perfectly believable, but as soon as He manifests, it's ''unbelievable''.

That is perplexing. I think you've nailed it. Jesus is the manifestation of God in this reality or the "image" of God.

 

[jonathan180iq]

That is perplexing. I think you've nailed it. Jesus is the manifestation of God in this reality or the "image" of God.

....For Christians only, in all fairness.

 

[Robert.Evans]

True. Cats seem to exist.

Ciao

- viole

Howdya know?

 

[Robert.Evans]

Belief in god? If you are using belief as a syn for knowledge of god, the two doesnt mix in an objective (dictionary) sense.

How do you equate belief with knowdege?

I can believe in god with whom I have no knowledge about

Once I have knowedge, I have no use for belief. Trust, yes. Belief, no....because its substatiated.

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Until its confirmed, how can belief in god equate to knowledge of god?

How can it not? It comes from God. Do you not understand?

Since life does not revolve me, I wouldnt. That doesnt mean it isnt true.

For example, just because I havent gone to Africa doesnt mean it doesnt exist. Why would I say it does not when its existence does not depend on me.

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Its not blind belief. If it were based on me, once I die, all of you would cease to exist. Is that true or am I off?

Perhaps all of us do die when you die. But perhaps that is just in your reality. Perhaps there are many realities, one for each of us. Then you are truly free and interact with YOURSELF and so hurt no one else. Is that not Just? I think so.

 

[Robert.Evans]

Belief in god? If you are using belief as a syn for knowledge of god, the two doesnt mix in an objective (dictionary) sense.

How do you equate belief with knowdege?

I can believe in god with whom I have no knowledge about

Once I have knowedge, I have no use for belief. Trust, yes. Belief, no....because its substatiated.

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Until its confirmed, how can belief in god equate to knowledge of god?

If someone you have never met before comes to you and says "I exist", and then leaves, do you believe they exist or not? I think you would believe it, but you would also know, wouldn't you?

 

[Robert.Evans]

Yeah man - pick any example that you like. There is actual evidence for all of those things, even the ones that are the hardest to comprehend.
But when it comes to God, there's literally nothing but speculation or mental hoola-hooping, trying to back log any observational things into an "evidence for god" category.

My kids and I play a game where we blame everything on their Nana. We all know it's a joke and it's all in good fun. But when it comes to the pious and God, you guys play exactly the same game, you just take it way too seriously.

"Look, there are Mountains" - God put them there
"Oh look, it's raining." -God did that
"Why is the sky blue?" - God likes that color
"I don't understand Calculus" - It was invented by the Devil, who was created by God.

God is everything, an evolving consciousness taht you see before you, and you are. How can you not take that seriously? It is perfect sense.

 

[Robert.Evans]

Agnostic ignostic living atheistically. Though the more I read of Hawking the less agnostic I become inclined. If he's right, there is nowhere for the universe to have been created.
But there are god concepts that do not include creation of the universe so I remain agnostic ignostic atheist to those.

And why could God have not brought about the universe the way science describes it?

 

[Robert.Evans]

True, a cat factually exist.

How do you know?

 

[Robert.Evans]

Pay attention.

I don't BELIEVE my cat exists, I KNOW my cat exists. (I don't know if he exists in a living state or not, but I believe he is most likely alive, judging how fast he got his fat A55 to the food bowl at 6 30 this morning).

I BELIEVE my cat is alive, but I could be wrong.... Let me check...

Ok, called my fiancé. Now I KNOW he is alive...that fat, lazy couch shredder!

Belief and knowledge are different. Most states teach this concept in literature class about four months into 9th grade. It's like...you know....a linguistic fact.

It is not my fault that you can't understand it. You cannot believe in something you don't know

 

[Robert.Evans]

Lives in peoples minds based on ancient mythology?

False.

 

[Robert.Evans]

Pretty cruel for ancient men to write the things you claim a god did, when you know full well no god has ever written a single word.

How do you know?

 

[Robert.Evans]

You said god tell someone something.

That only come from book that contains mythology.

False.

 

[Robert.Evans]

So does imagination

That would include yours as well then.

 

[leibowde84]

Howdya know?

Cats recognize our existence, which is evidenced in their actions.

 

[leibowde84]

I have made no such claims.

Pretty cruel for God to tell us to seek him when it is not possible to find him.

What were you referring to here then?

 

[jonathan180iq]

God is everything, an evolving consciousness taht you see before you, and you are. How can you not take that seriously? It is perfect sense.

I'm just asking why you call it God if there is no factual evidence for God...

Let"s both admit that there is a tree.
The tree factually exists. We both know that.
But by your reasoning, that tree is evidence for God because "God is everything." Why?

If I said that the tree was evidence of Pookiwumbi the Earth God, would that explanation satisfy you?

 

[leibowde84]

Not true.
The voice of God comes from within.

You said that "God tells us". Yet, you claim that God's voice comes from within. So, you have to admit that you can't say whether God has spoken to anyone other than yourself, right?

 

[leibowde84]

God is everything, an evolving consciousness taht you see before you, and you are. How can you not take that seriously? It is perfect sense.

But, this is a vague and limitless definition for God. Thus, it is necessary to support your claim that God is these things.

 

[leibowde84]

If someone you have never met before comes to you and says "I exist", and then leaves, do you believe they exist or not? I think you would believe it, but you would also know, wouldn't you?

You need to provide additional context. Did anyone see the person besides you? Could it have possibly been an illusion?