What is your belief in regards to God?

[prometheus11]

Pretty cruel for God to tell us to seek him when it is not possible to find him.

Imaginary beings are only cruel in the imagination.

 

[outhouse]

I have made no such claims.

You said god tell someone something.

That only come from book that contains mythology.

 

[allfoak]

So, you weren't referring to Jesus here?

Yes i was.

 

[allfoak]

You said god tell someone something.

That only come from book that contains mythology.

Not true.
The voice of God comes from within.

 

[allfoak]

Imaginary beings are only cruel in the imagination.

Can't argue with that.

 

[outhouse]

Not true.
The voice of God comes from within.

So does imagination

 

[leibowde84]

Yes i was.

So, didn't you say that Jesus became God and returned to God? How can you return to yourself?

 

[allfoak]

So does imagination

The imagination is a faculty not a voice.
We don't listen to the imagination we use the imagination.

 

[allfoak]

So, didn't you say that Jesus became God and returned to God? How can you return to yourself?

No, i did not say that Jesus became God.

 

[outhouse]

The imagination is a faculty not a voice.

Says who?

Many people here voices in their heads, yet no one factually is there.

we use the imagination.

Yes I know

 

[Jumi]

Agnostic ignostic living atheistically. Though the more I read of Hawking the less agnostic I become inclined. If he's right, there is nowhere for the universe to have been created.

I'm inclined to think the same, that it was not created. I see no reason to think otherwise.

 

[Desert Snake]

I would look up the term before making claims like that. Agnosticism is the belief that knowledge of God's existence or nature is not possible. This in no way precludes someone from believing that God exists. Thus, there are many agnostic theists and atheists alike.

"Agnosticism is the view that the truth values of certain claims – especially metaphysical and religious claims such as whether God, the divine or the supernatural exist – are unknown and perhaps unknowable."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnosticism

Great, that makes me a gnostic Theist, then. Did you read the thread?

 

[Desert Snake]

Wasn't Jesus God, though? How can you return to yourself?

Is it your position that Jesus 'was' G-d?

 

[viole]

Belief in God is different to belief in a cat

True. Cats seem to exist.

Ciao

- viole

 

[leibowde84]

Great, that makes me a gnostic Theist, then. Did you read the thread?

From your comments here on RF, it seems that you are most definitely a Gnostic Theist. And, yes, i read the thread ... or most of it at least. Why?

Gnosticism: the thought and practice especially of various cults of late pre-Christian and early Christian centuries distinguished by the conviction that matter is evil and that emancipation comes through gnosis

Gnosis: esoteric knowledge of spiritual truth held by the ancient Gnostics to be essential to salvation

 

[Rick O'Shez]

Cats seem to exist.

Though many cats also believe they are god.

 

[leibowde84]

Is it your position that Jesus 'was' G-d?

That's a tough one. I believe that Jesus was God's message to humanity. So, in essence, I guess that means that Jesus was part of God.

 

[leibowde84]

Though many cats also believe they are god.

Too true.

 

[Desert Snake]

From your comments here on RF, it seems that you are most definitely a Gnostic Theist. And, yes, i read the thread ... or most of it at least. Why?

Gnosticism: the thought and practice especially of various cults of late pre-Christian and early Christian centuries distinguished by the conviction that matter is evil and that emancipation comes through gnosis

Gnosis: esoteric knowledge of spiritual truth held by the ancient Gnostics to be essential to salvation

Fair enough.
What I'm really getting at, is that your use of 'agnostic', for practicality sake, seems a tad arbitrary, does it not? Since there is way to 'prove' various things, anyway.

 

[leibowde84]

Fair enough.
What I'm really getting at, is that your use of 'agnostic', for practicality sake, seems a tad arbitrary, does it not? Since there is way to 'prove' various things, anyway.

That is why I consider myself to be agnostic, actually. Because verifiable evidence is not available and our subjective experience is often unreliable, I feel that "knowledge" of God is not possible. Faith is the best we've got.