Kelly of the Phoenix
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Name them. Plus, many “witnesses” weren’t present.
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What is your opinion of Jesus?
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Kelly of the Phoenix
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Running into a mountain is dangerous if you’re a coyote and perfectly safe if you’re a roadrunner.
Kelly of the Phoenix
Well-Known Member
He can be a master and still suck at it.
Kelly of the Phoenix
Well-Known Member
Jesus thought Peter should be able to.
Kelly of the Phoenix
Well-Known Member
Not really because supposedly there is only one source for the information: God. Why can’t God keep the story straight?
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe it is because I find the Muslims saying they believe in Jesus but then they don't believe He is God in the flesh. They believe things about Jesus that they wish to believe and even refuse to believe the words of Jesus about Himself.
Muffled
Jesus in me
Perhaps that would explain why memory can be restored because the spirit informs the mind.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe He does but people don't.
Ajax
Active Member
Why can't the person remember through his soul/spirit then? And what happens when there is permanent amnesia? In other words you mean that the soul/spirit does not keep memories and can not work without the brain.. so it is useless as far as memory is concerned.
Is soul/spirit useful in any other respect in a body?
cataway
Well-Known Member
well good for them .Jesus is not the god you are trying to make him to be . he is the son of God, subordinate ,a servant of God
Muffled
Jesus in me
The mind is not always fully aware of its spirit for the memories to return. Usually the spirit can step in and take control but not if the mind is blocking it.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe you have no basis for that and I have a heap of evidence that Jesus is God in the flesh. What do you think Son of God means in this context?
Ajax
Active Member
I will reply to you with what I posted in another thread...
"The brain is the natural organ. The mind is the energy of the brain, that is how it works and when the brain stops working, the mind disappears. The term soul is useless. The vast majority of neuroscientists do not consider the term "soul" necessary. People should abandon the illusion that there is a soul, since everything comes from and is controlled by the brain". George Paxinos, the scientist behind the mapping of human brain.
Now, what exactly is the spirit? Would appreciate its definition.. Do you mean the soul?
cataway
Well-Known Member
Jesus is a person that God created, even as a man fathers as son by procreation.
the thought that God would create a equal to him self is ridicules. what would be the point of doing such a thing when he could create subordinate helpers to manage all of creation ?
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
The only "evidence" you have that Jesus is God in the flesh comes from your sacred texts and various ecumenical councils. IOW you have no evidence at all.
Brother J was a nice Jewish man, but messiah and God he was not.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
There is no evidence in the sacred texts and various ecumenical councils are not evidence. IOW he has no evidence at all.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
I would say that the New Testament gives conflicting remarks, some indicating Jesus is divine, and others indicating he is just a man. People on both sides of the argument simply choose to accent some verses and ignore others.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
I know of no verses that say that Jesus is God in the flesh. Of course, it is all in how people interpret verses, what they interpret them to mean.
For example, certain Christians believe that “I and my Father are one” (John 10:30) means that Jesus is God.
I believe that “I and my Father are one” (John 10:30) means that whatever pertains to Jesus, all His acts and doings, are identical with the Will of the Father. Jesus and God also share the same Holy Spirit, so in that sense they are one. Jesus also shares some (but not all) the Attributes of God so in that sense they are one.
As a Baha'i I believe that Jesus has a two-fold nature, one nature divine, the other human, but that is not the same as saying that Jesus is God.
Quester
Member
There's an easy way to end all of this ... there are a small handful of verses that say:
Mark 9:1:
And he said to them, “Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see that the kingdom of God has come with power.”
God obviously agrees with all this, because Mark 9:7 says:
7 Then a cloud appeared and covered them, and a voice came from the cloud: “This is
my Son, whom I love. Listen to him!”
Oddly, one of these verses was Jesus to Caiaphas the high priest:
...hereafter you (Caiaphas) shall see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power, and coming on the clouds of heaven. (Mt.26:64 /Mark 14:62)
Just dealing with this small group of people, logic dictates that since this "return" has never happened (and there's a reason why), these people HAVE TO BE still alive. With the billions of people on this planet today, if everyone helped to look for and find this 2000 year old group of people - if found - you win the dispute.
Frankly, I believe they would have made themselves known somewhere in history, especially after the Catholic Church arrived on the scene ... but ... they aren't there. Don't believe me? Find them.