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What the New Testament says about God is true

It Aint Necessarily So

It Aint Necessarily So

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IndigoChild5559 said:
Christianity is the baby of Judaism. Baha'i is the great grandbaby of Judaism. It only makes sense that Baha'i and Christianity would share a lot in their views about God.
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Yes, Christianity is a spinoff of Judaism, followed by Islam then Baha'ism. We could say that Judaism was Happy Days, Christianity Laverne and Shirley, Islam Mork and Mindy, and Baha'ism would then be Joannie loves Chachi.
 
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TransmutingSoul

TransmutingSoul

One Planet, One People, Please!
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Spice said:
But Trailblazer, does the Baha'i Faith believe all must come to believe in Baha'u'llah?

I believe that is the biggest question I see in the Baha'i way.

Giving up one's current faith for another is not a means of peace any more than giving up one's language or culture. It's still oppression and tribalism. It would be going backwards towards the days of the Tower of Babble which God did not want. He separated us and yet we're ALL still His own.

Can you imagine God wanting to reach His promise of a time to come when the lamb shall lie down with the lion by making the lion just another lamb?

IMO, the only connection we need to achieve world peace and heaven on earth, is an equal amount of dedication to love.

Thoughts?
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Hello spice, all things nice!

Humanity is not ready to give up on many things that would build a "Most Great Peace", that will eventually happen. We will need centuries of a Lesser Peace and what we learn from that process, that will eventually see the planet as one home and the human race as one people.

The Lesser Peace will require us to let go of an unbridled nationalism and foster a pride in the Nation we were born in, all the while acknowledging the right of all other Nations to likewise love in peace without fear of invasion.

Interestingly, the Lesser Peace process will actually try to do away with religion as the cause of our conflicts, but time will show this was the wrong move. When that realisation comes about, this is when religions will again start to flourish and the Most Great Peace will start being realised.

That vision is already given, and as you have noted, eventually what is foretold also in the Bible will be realised.

Regards Tony
 
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firedragon

firedragon

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Trailblazer said:
Of course religions have differences, and the differences are huge, but that is not what this thread is about. I was trying to bridge the gap by pointing out what Baha'is and Christians have in common.
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Well your theology is an attempt to harmonize as many religions as it could.

Anyway, at fundamental levels your theology differs from Christianity. Did Bahaullah say that Jesus is God, part of the trinity as per the athanasian creed? Be very specific.

Thanks.
 
Trailblazer

Trailblazer

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ppp said:
I (somewhat) appreciate the enthusiasm, but of the three statements in that run-on sentence, only the last is potentially true.
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You'll have to take that up with @TransmutingSoul. I think he started a new thread on that topic.

Building Bridges to the Unity of Humanity

This OP came about as this topic was raised in other threads. About building bridges between faiths and peoples, it was suggested the Baha'i approach was not conducive to building bridges. I would suggest that to build bridges one first have a plan, and this is the level that humanity is...
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Trailblazer

Trailblazer

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firedragon said:
Well your theology is an attempt to harmonize as many religions as it could.

Anyway, at fundamental levels your theology differs from Christianity. Did Bahaullah say that Jesus is God, part of the trinity as per the athanasian creed? Be very specific.

Thanks.
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With all due respect, this thread was not intended to be about theology and the differences across religions.

No, Baha'u'llah did not say that Jesus is God or part of a trinity.
 
Trailblazer

Trailblazer

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ppp said:
Don't be silly. He is just a cut-and-paster. He never engages with what is said. He only looks for keywords and delivers a pre-prepared statement from a publicity and marketing script.. Might as well be talking to Level 1 Customer Service.
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Sorry about that, but I am not even part of the customer service team!
 
Trailblazer

Trailblazer

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ppp said:
I know that you have to say that. You may even believe it. But, no. But you have sounding certain and resolute down pat.
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I know that you have to say that there is no plan. You may even believe it.

But there is a plan.

Whether the plan will work or not is TBD.
 
TransmutingSoul

TransmutingSoul

One Planet, One People, Please!
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ppp said:
Don't be silly. He is just a cut-and-paster. He never engages with what is said. He only looks for keywords and delivers a pre-prepared statement from a publicity and marketing script.. Might as well be talking to Level 1 Customer Service.
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Anything I would offer is already written. It really means people are not ready to hear, plain and simple. I share sources that I see are well worth others pursuing.

If the topic was important to people , they would be immersed in what has been already offered, or at least pursued the material to see if the content had any merit. They would already be well versed in the topic on hand.

Instead, people without effort, will continue to offer there is nothing, they want everyone else to make the effort and to spoon feed everything to them.

People do not appreciate good customer service that enables people to find what they are looking for by giving a source to answers, much like a librarian.

Regards Tony
 
ppp

ppp

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TransmutingSoul said:
Anything I would offer is already written. It really means people are not ready to hear, plain and simple. I share sources that I see are well worth others pursuing.
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My entire high school, college and adult career has involved debates of plans, equations, courses of action and policies. In many of which I have had a strong intellectual and emotional investment. Some of these debates have gone on for weeks. And you know what? I am frequently swayed to other positions by thoughtful and intelligent argument.

What I am never swayed by is tap-dancing and audience-blaming. What I am never swayed by is a total lack of candor. What I am never swayed by is snake-oil. And that is all that you are giving me.
 
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