Colt
Well-Known Member
Because of the 800,000+ visa overstays annually! They come and don’t leave.
DHS Reports Record Number of Overstays in 2022
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What will Kamala do about Illegal Immigrants coming into the US in mass and taking over jobs?
- Thread starter The Sum of Awe
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DHS Reports Record Number of Overstays in 2022
Pogo
Well-Known Member
All the more reason we need to get congress to actually do something. LOL
My parents came from Eastern Europe when immigration was open - just show up and pass a medical test. They made a life for themselves, worked hard, became citizens and so forth. I see no difference with those from Latin America. Immigrants help the economy.
Koldo
Outstanding Member
If it is not a liveable wage, why are they taking those jobs?
Do you see this as the only way though?
How would they be able to pay all taxes if they need to live hidden from government's sight?
Consumption taxes can't be avoided.
A very significant issue in many developed countries is that many many workers haven't moved on from doing menial jobs that require very little qualification.
Spice
StewardshipPeaceIntergityCommunityEquality
But they can't stay if they don't have a job. Put the blame where it belongs, please.
Because they are able to live in cheap quarters temporarily before returning to their home where the cost of living is lower. A US citizen can’t survive long term or for life on many current wages
By boycotting the jobs? It would be the best incentive. Why would corporations change their ways if they have no trouble finding cheap labor?
Isn’t one way the IRS knows you’re not paying taxes is if they find your identity and see that you haven’t filed your taxes? How would this be done with undocumented people?
Spice
StewardshipPeaceIntergityCommunityEquality
US citizenry needs education on immigration first. Then we can see where adjustments need to be made.
How many degreed university graduates do you know in the US that will work 6 & 1/2 days per week, two of which begin at 5 a.m., the others at 7, no recognized holidays, running pressure washers to clean birthing pens in commercial hog farms? Among other rather discusting duties. Ever shared space with a sow in labor? These are the types of good jobs that are recruited from other countries to the US for limited time employment.
Don't think for a minute that all the foreign faces you see daily came totally on their own accord and are undocumented.
How many degreed university graduates do you know in the US that will work 6 & 1/2 days per week, two of which begin at 5 a.m., the others at 7, no recognized holidays, running pressure washers to clean birthing pens in commercial hog farms? Among other rather discusting duties. Ever shared space with a sow in labor? These are the types of good jobs that are recruited from other countries to the US for limited time employment.
Don't think for a minute that all the foreign faces you see daily came totally on their own accord and are undocumented.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
There is a system in place already that would make it easy to keep illegal aliens from getting jobs in the US. They would only need to enforce the laws that workers have to have valid social security numbers. There is a computer system that allows employers to see if the social security number matches the person applying for a job. If the numbers are not valid all that they have to do is to make it so the money paid to illegal employees is not tax deductible for the employer. That means that they would have to treat the money that they paid them as profit and pay tax on that. Employers simply could not afford that. Their tax bill would put them out of business. But this law, which already exists, is never enforced. If it was no one would hire illegals. The problem is that we need illegal workers in the US. Both sides know this. Neither side wants to enforce it because it would be disastrous for our country and for the party that tried to enforce it. So all sides just give it lip service. Even Trump is not that stupid as to enforce that law. So when Republicans make a lot of noise about immigrants taking jobs away you hear nothing from the Democrats because they are complicit too.
So, who the heck is he? I've tried listening, but he makes no arguments other than "I'm 26 years old," and "she's been a Vice President." I'm not even sure what he's saying -- so if you've listened to his whole argument, would you be so kind as to explain to me what it is? I mean, he did mention he has a sister who .... (then he trailed off, and didn't say what it was about his sister that was important).
You like to post as if you're making some important point -- so WTF is your point?
Because the world sees our wisdom in not wanting to be overrun by Americans. We've noticed what heros you worship, and tremble.
Isn’t that stereotyping and xenophobic for a reason to not grant open access to certain cultural backgrounds? How is this any different than the given reason many right wingers state about foreigners is that they are communists or criminals?
Why did this question get no answers?
And how about overpopulation concerns? The housing crises is a real thing, where are we going to put all of these people? You could say to spread them out, but wouldn’t that end up eliminating the existence of rural areas?
Starting with under the counter pay jobs, but not uncommon to use fake papers via the black market.
Pogo
Well-Known Member
Oh, stop being so damn logical.
Pogo
Well-Known Member
Well I gave up after his first rational statement after his umming and scratching his face when he said "I am so confused"
This is supposed to be an example of what?
Is there any truth about illegal immigrants “getting visa credit cards and free everything when they are coming here”?
Wandering Monk
Well-Known Member
Fact Sheet: Immigrants and Public Benefits
Are undocumented immigrants eligible for federal public benefit programs? Generally no. Undocumented immigrants, including DACA holders, are ineligible to receive most federal public benefits, including means-tested benefits such as Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP, sometimes...
She'll have local people emigrated to Mexico and then re-immigrate them to have jobs. Problem solved.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Debit cards for illegals which is bad enough.
Migrants in New York City will receive prepaid debit cards, not credit cards, for designated goods
Amid a massive influx of migrants to New York City, social media users are misrepresenting the new program with false claims about the type of aid participants will receive.