What will Kamala do about Illegal Immigrants coming into the US in mass and taking over jobs?

[oldbadger]

Yep and her staff goes out out.

OK....I'll bite, so what has happened that caused some key member of her staff to leave?

 

[Colt]

But they can't stay if they don't have a job. Put the blame where it belongs, please.

They aren’t supposed to stay after their work visa expires. America has no obligation to provide jobs to illegal aliens who overstay their work visas. The Left finds it difficult to accept rules and hold individuals accountable for their own behavior. They are enablers of problems.

 

[Colt]

Debit cards for illegals which is bad enough.

Migrants in New York City will receive prepaid debit cards, not credit cards, for designated goods

Amid a massive influx of migrants to New York City, social media users are misrepresenting the new program with false claims about the type of aid participants will receive.

apnews.com

The Left needs a victims class to stay in power, that’s why they don’t solve problems, rather they subsidize problems.

 

[Koldo]

Because they are able to live in cheap quarters temporarily before returning to their home where the cost of living is lower. A US citizen can’t survive long term or for life on many current wages

But you are not supposed to spend all of your life doing work that an illegal immigrant with no previous experience also does for cheaper.

By boycotting the jobs? It would be the best incentive. Why would corporations change their ways if they have no trouble finding cheap labor?

The law is the best incentive.
Unless people are being supported by someone else, they can't refuse crappy jobs when that's all that is available. Therefore, boycotting is not an effective way to handle a systemic problem.

Isn’t one way the IRS knows you’re not paying taxes is if they find your identity and see that you haven’t filed your taxes? How would this be done with undocumented people?

Why would this need to be done?
If those people are not going to have access to every service provided by the government, why would they have to pay all the taxes?

 

[Revoltingest]

This one actually seems to have some basis:

‘Bullying’ leaves Kamala Harris without a top team for White House bid

Democrat insiders fear shortage of senior aides will hamper campaign

www.telegraph.co.uk

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/12/04/kamala-harris-staff-departures/

I remember that in the news.
It's one problem with her that I predict will get little attention.
Not about her sex or race(s). And bullying isn't something
that Trump can accuse anyone of without it backfiring.

True. Burying whatever relevant information you have under a mountain of rumor and rhetoric only serves to weaken your own cause.

Except with one's already committed base.
It would feel satisfying to cheerlead them
this way, but it fails at getting new voters.

Or at least that would be the case if most voters were looking for information rather than confirmation.

Not their target audience, eh.

 

[Revoltingest]

The Left needs a victims class to stay in power, that’s why they don’t solve problems, rather they subsidize problems.

A recipe for dependence on government hand-outs....
- Government makes it a crime to hire illegals.
- Government supports illegals.
- Government has weak border security.

Both parties gain power....
- Dems gain voters.
- Pubs pretend they'll do something about it.

Sounds almost planned, eh.
Nah....just an intolerable situation that they
tolerate because it's not really that bad for them.
And actually solving the problem would be
politically unappealing.

There is a solution to politicians who pander
to voters.....
Trump's proposal to put Christians in total
power, thereby ending elections. USA would
become as efficient as N Korea, China, Cuba,
Saudi Arabia, etc.
Of course, very orderly societies have their
drawbacks too....it's not all gravy & roasted
unicorns.

 

[McBell]

They aren’t supposed to stay after their work visa expires. America has no obligation to provide jobs to illegal aliens who overstay their work visas. The Left finds it difficult to accept rules and hold individuals accountable for their own behavior. They are enablers of problems.

interesting that you did not comment on the post that addresses this:

There is a system in place already that would make it easy to keep illegal aliens from getting jobs in the US. They would only need to enforce the laws that workers have to have valid social security numbers. There is a computer system that allows employers to see if the social security number matches the person applying for a job. If the numbers are not valid all that they have to do is to make it so the money paid to illegal employees is not tax deductible for the employer. That means that they would have to treat the money that they paid them as profit and pay tax on that. Employers simply could not afford that. Their tax bill would put them out of business. But this law, which already exists, is never enforced. If it was no one would hire illegals. The problem is that we need illegal workers in the US. Both sides know this. Neither side wants to enforce it because it would be disastrous for our country and for the party that tried to enforce it. So all sides just give it lip service. Even Trump is not that stupid as to enforce that law. So when Republicans make a lot of noise about immigrants taking jobs away you hear nothing from the Democrats because they are complicit too.

 

[Twilight Hue]

The Left needs a victims class to stay in power, that’s why they don’t solve problems, rather they subsidize problems.

Which is why they take copious measures to see to it that people stay poor and marginalized.

Dependency makes for good cattle to milk and exploit for themselves which is why they never will produce any permanent solutions for fear of losing their human cattle. They instead only throw out temporary handouts to give an illusion they are helping , when in fact they are just engaged in human herd management through pacification on one end, and the exploitation on the other end, and the cycle propagates.

 

[Twilight Hue]

OK....I'll bite, so what has happened that caused some key member of her staff to leave?

Toxicity, bully, soul destroying criticism, multiple staff shakeups as she was paranoid about loyalty , you name it. Her staff exodus is unprecedented and well-documented.

She treats people as if they are beneath her.

Kamala Harris viewed White House aides not standing when she walked into a room as 'a sign of disrespect,' book says

"Harris worried that Biden's staff looked down on her," the political correspondents Jonathan Martin and Alexander Burns wrote in a new book.

www.businessinsider.com

MSN

www.msn.com

Harris replaces chief of staff in latest VP office shakeup

Vice President Kamala Harris is naming Lorraine Voles as her new chief of staff, replacing Tina Flournoy who is leaving the administration, in the latest shakeup in her office, the White House said.

apnews.com

Kamala Harris' staff turnover driven by burnout and apprehension to being labeled a 'Harris person': Axios

A strategist who spoke with Axios said that Harris needed "someone loyal who can think methodically" to help spread her message and boost her numbers.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[Subduction Zone]

interesting that you did not comment on the post that addresses this:

For smaller employers it is extremely easy to check SSN's. By the way, abusing this site will get you in trouble so do NOT play around with it. An employer must register, probably with the business EIN and use it to see if a given SSN matches up to the name that the prospective employee gave to you:

The Social Security Number Verification Service

SSNVS Information

www.ssa.gov

You can check up to 10 at a time so we are talking at a fairly good sized business since most departments in businesses do not hire more than ten people at once. I am betting that for a business that hires a hundred people at a time there is another system set up. I just did a very quick search to find this. So we can already check the Social Security Numbers of employees. And you know that there has to be a law on the books that says that one has to have the right SSN for employees. What would be the point of having an SSN if that was not the case? I could probably look that up too. The hard part is the ability to check those numbers and now you can see that I knew what I was talking about.

 

[oldbadger]

Toxicity, bully, soul destroying criticism, multiple staff shakeups as she was paranoid about loyalty , you name it. Her staff exodus is unprecedented and well-documented.

She treats people as if they are beneath her.

Kamala Harris viewed White House aides not standing when she walked into a room as 'a sign of disrespect,' book says

"Harris worried that Biden's staff looked down on her," the political correspondents Jonathan Martin and Alexander Burns wrote in a new book.

www.businessinsider.com

MSN

www.msn.com

Harris replaces chief of staff in latest VP office shakeup

Vice President Kamala Harris is naming Lorraine Voles as her new chief of staff, replacing Tina Flournoy who is leaving the administration, in the latest shakeup in her office, the White House said.

apnews.com

Kamala Harris' staff turnover driven by burnout and apprehension to being labeled a 'Harris person': Axios

A strategist who spoke with Axios said that Harris needed "someone loyal who can think methodically" to help spread her message and boost her numbers.

www.businessinsider.com

Staff refusing to stand when the Vice President enters a room clearly have no respect. Let them be anywhere else.

Enemies will always try to defame. Don't you know that?

You need to dig up something much much worse than that.

 

[Pogo]

Yep and her staff goes out out.

 

[Twilight Hue]

George Bush did pretty good.

 

[Colt]

interesting that you did not comment on the post that addresses this:

If you have a work visa then you can get an SSN before even coming to the country. Undocumented workers can work in the "cash economy" and employers can pay the tax on that, the employee is required to pay tax on the earnings through an ITIN number.

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[Twilight Hue]

Staff refusing to stand when the Vice President enters a room clearly have no respect. Let them be anywhere else.

Enemies will always try to defame. Don't you know that?

You need to dig up something much much worse than that.

I wouldn't stand up for an ******* either.

 

[McBell]

If you have a work visa then you can get an SSN before even coming to the country.

What does that have to do with the fact that NEITHER side are enforcing the laws?
You post was a complaint about those over staying.
Which means remaining in the USA AFTER they are not legally allowed to stay in the USA, right?
So your little diddy above is completely irrelevant to what you are complaining about, right?

Undocumented workers can work in the "cash economy" and employers can pay the tax on that, the employee is required to pay tax on the earnings through an ITIN number.

"cash economy"?
You mean a work around the laws put in to place to prevent undocumented workers from working?

Why hasn't the GOP done anything about this?

 

[oldbadger]

I wouldn't stand up for an ******* either.

Would you stand up for an adulterous, cheating fraudster?

If not then what are you doing .....?

 

[Twilight Hue]

Would you stand up for an adulterous, cheating fraudster?

If not then what are you doing .....?

Trump isn't demanding people stand up for him unlike others who are demanding.

What are you thinking.. fantasty ..?

 

[oldbadger]

Trump isn't demanding people stand up for him unlike others who are demanding.

What are you thinking.. fantasty ..?

People in positions of great importance need to be acknowledged.
Trump is (at present) just a convict.

No Fantasy.

 

[anotherneil]

Well I gave up after his first rational statement after his umming and scratching his face when he said "I am so confused"
This is supposed to be an example of what?

Of someone who doesn't believe that Kamala will do anything about the flow of illegal aliens into the US at all.