lukethethird
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What will the Second Coming of Christ look like?
He will no doubt be sporting a mustache.
He will no doubt be sporting a mustache.
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What will the Second Coming of Christ look like?
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I just went to the Nottingham Green Festival where a member of the House of Lords for the Green party, and different environmental movements spoke on climate issues, they gave us 5 years before global catastrophe looms.
Mass Extinction Underway | Biodiversity Crisis | Global Species Loss - this site has collected data of mass extinctions.
We're on the verge of the war between Israel and Iran, as they've already taken down the other countries they said they would:
This is all prophesied in the Bible, and that Christ is here incognito in Revelation 16:15-16 before Armageddon, where he discusses with the Churches secretly (on Religious forums, and Paltalk) in Revelation 3:3 before the Great Tribulation.
In Luke 17:20-37 Christ comes back, this whole generation rejects him, then the Baptism of Fire comes, and cleanses mankind at the Harvest.
Same happens within the Kalki Purana, that everyone is disrespectful as they no longer respect religion; so then Kalki removes Kali Yuga in a day by Samvartaka Fire the same.
1:28 In Kah-yuga, a person with a lot of money will naturally be respected as a great soul. If a twice-born person earns his livelihood by lending money on interest, he will be considered a pillar of society. The sannydsls of Kah-yuga will be attached to home and property, and householders will become devoid of all power of discrimination. In Kah-yuga, people will blaspheme a spiritual master or other elderly person without hesitation. Indeed, people in general will simply become hypocrites, liars, and cheaters
2:28 The four exalted brahmanas offered their obeisances unto Lord Visnu, who had assumed the form of a human being. They very well understood that Lord Kalki had appeared to rid the earth of all those who had become degraded to the level of sinful demons.
3:26 By the influence of this horse and parrot, the people of the world will know You as a learned scholar of all scriptures who is a master of the art of releasing arrows, and thus the conqueror of all.
The Source of reality told me at 15 years old before reading the religions, what was coming in global eschatology, and asked me to read the religions to spread peace among them before it (Revelation 10:11).
I fulfilled Revelation 10 a few years before reading the Bible, and then am now talking to religious people as feel guilty for not starting earlier; since literally the Source is going to cleanse reality from top to bottom (Deuteronomy 32:22).
In my opinion.
The attributes of the many various "great ones" of the many religions and spiritual paths are very different and contradictory. They are only speaking about the same great one because you are interpreting it this way, not because they are saying this. They most all think the great one of their religion or spiritual path is not the same great one as that of the others.
These religions do not believe this to be the same person. Your religion is putting words into their mouths. Your religion is basically declaring that the world's religions don't know what they are talking about, and your religion will correct them all by informing them what they really teach and believe.
How does doing this create unity? Similar to a dictator who creates political unity by crushing his/her opponents so that everyone must conform in their loyalty to the dictator.
Age old shibboleths are being replaced by practices and attitudes more suited to a global village. Things such as slavery and racism are gradually being rejected and replaced by things like universal human rights, interfaith and multiculturalism. In this age when the races, religions and nationalities are forced to be so close due to technology, we have had to make adjustments to get along. Another advancement is the status of women. Women now are becoming more involved in society.
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It happens all the time. Jesus said Moses foretold Him which the Jewish priests rejected resulting in crucifying Him. Jesus did nothing wrong but teach love. The Jewish scriptures do predict a messiah will come so it’s part of their scriptures to accept Him when He does appear.
All the major religions have prophesies regarding a Promised One to come.
But using the example of what the Jews did to Christ is it any wonder that followers are going to clamor and oppose the Promised One?
Baha’u’llah is only fulfilling that which was promised in their own Holy Books.
If you study the prophecies of the various religions thoroughly as I have, you will find His Name mentioned, the place of His birth, His exile and Life all alluded to in more than one religions Holy Books.
disunity is not new. Religious prejudice has existed since time began yet has never been addressed until Baha’u’llah came. In His Book of laws He has commanded His followers to consort and mix with the followers of all religions in a spirit of friendliness and fellowship. You won’t find this in any other scripture so many leaders of each religion tell their followers to basically shun other faiths.
Racism is another teaching dealt with by Baha’u’llah directly whereas it has not been in the past which is why it has been left to linger. He says ‘close your eyes to racial differences and welcome all with the light of oneness’ thus addressing racism directly in scripture.
Further He addresses the poison of unbridled nationalism when He says ‘the earth is but one country and mankind it’s citizens’ ‘ and ‘let your vision be world embracing rather than confined to your own selves.’.
He says all the religions come from one heavenly Source. No superiority or exclusivism.
The world is and has already been disunited and scattered into thousands of groups of ‘us vs them ‘ having caused wars which have lost millions of lives well before Baha’u’llah appeared. Wars between Christians and Muslims, Christians and Christians, Muslims and Muslims, Buddhists and Hindus in Sri Lanka. The Crusades, the Inquisition.These deep divisions, hatreds and prejudices were the reason God sent Baha’u’llah to educate us in how to see each other as one human family.
He says of humanity: The utterance of God is a lamp, whose light is these words: Ye are the fruits of one tree, and the leaves of one branch. Deal ye one with another with the utmost love and harmony, with friendliness and fellowship. He Who is the Day Star of Truth beareth Me witness! So powerful is the light of unity that it can illuminate the whole earth.
So Baha’u’llah is calling all to oneness, to acknowledge that truth exists in all religions and to be lovers of all humankind. This call is to unity.
Trailblazer
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I hope you realize it is illogical to say that the "Great One" of all these different religions is a different man. That is impossible because Great One means Great One, so they have to all be speaking about the same One.
Who cares what they think? It only matters what God did, if He sent a Great One or not. If there is a Great One that means there is only One, not many. People have different conceptions of what the Great One will be like, what He will do, but that does not mean there are many Great Ones. It is the same thing with god beliefs. Just because people have many different conceptions of what God is like that does not mean there is more than one God.
In Psalms 118:21-22 where Yeshua becomes the chief corner stone which the builders reject - it is literally telling us that Judah reject their own Messiah...
Zechariah 11 explains the contexts that the leaders rejected him.
In my opinion.
Yes, it is a travesty that dogmatic religions are so intolerant of others.
This is commendable.
This is commendable.
Except that the specific teachings of the various religions are contradictory. For example, Christianity claims Jesus is the Son of God, the Messiah. Islam claims Jesus is not this. So, therefore, the source for these different religions is not one unified source.
The only way to unify these religions is to actually change their teachings, and to declare that these teachings are really the same.
Thus, for example, the person of Jesus who walked the earth 2,000 years ago is *not* really the only exclusive Son of God or Messiah (as Christianity teaches). He is, rather, merely the idea of a universal messiah, or the ideal of a son of god. And then you have to mangle the teachings of Islam to match this. And you also have to mangle the teachings of Judaism. And on and on, touching and changing and mangling every religion.
But this mangles all religions. Not a good way to create unity, by pretending to accept someone's teachings when you really intend to destroy these teaching by re-writing them.
Judaism doesn't agree with your assessment of what the Hebrew Bible says about the Bible, or of what the characteristics of this Messiah are. And so, they reject Jesus as the Messiah.
And certainly Islam doesn't accept Jesus as Messiah based on the various passages in the Hebrew Bible. (Or any other religion either.)
Jesus is not the same person as Krishna. Unless you are ignoring the physical reality of the religious teachings and focusing instead on some spiritual or abstract mental imaginary kind of realm.
To illustrate: the idea that unicorns and horses are really the same thing. Or that fish and humans are united with mermaids. Or that Lincoln and Hilter were both unifiers of mankind because they brought people together (ignoring the realities of how they did this, and the consequences of doing it).
Except that this new message scrambles the actual teachings of all these religions, and as a consequence, none of these religions will accept this new message as being from God. They can only accept it by rejecting (or changing) the teachings of their own religion.
I think a message of unity, to be effective, would have to accept the teachings of the various religions as they actually are, and to try to build bridges with that as their starting point.
Certainly, unity among humans is a good thing, requiring people to be given the respect and freedoms they deserve. And certainly tribalism and nationalism and competing for scarce resources make this difficult to achieve. And some people having psychological conditions that result in them wanting to oppress people doesn't help either.
Except that they aren't speaking about the same thing. Try an experiment. Get a Christian and Muslim together to debate whether the God of Christianity and Allah are really just the same thing. Good luck with that.
They are only the same if you strip off the differences. But in the minds of those believing in their specific religion, the are not at all the same.
You may wish to claim that your concept of the Great One is the actual correct concept, but to claim that people of other faiths actually agree with your concept doesn't match with reality.
It matters to the religions of the world who strongly believe their teachings and doctrines. If you wish to accurately represent what they believe, you have to, well..., you have to accurately represent what they believe.
If you are of the opinion that your belief is true and correct and supersedes everyone else's belief, then OK. But don't claim that those followers of other religions agree with you. (Perhaps you are not claiming this, and perhaps I am misunderstanding you.)
Jesus also referred to Himself as a Prophet which the Quran agrees with. It does not agree that Jesus is the physical son of God but neither does the Bible as it says in the Holy Book that God is Spirit so Jesus can only be called the spiritual Son of God and Baha’is agree with this.
Each religions interpretations leaves out science and go after exclusivity and superiority which is not spiritual but more to do with ego. When we shear off the superiority interpretations of the followers we are left with oneness and harmony between the scriptures.
One example where ego has dominated. It says in the Bible that there is no other name in heaven by which one can be saved. Out of context this verse leads Christians to reject the truth in other Faiths. But a much closer look at this needs to be investigated. Christ said in Revelation that He would return with a ‘new name’ and in the Bible it says His followers shall be called by a new name which the mouth of the Lord shall name. Outwardly it appears contradictory but not if we apply the understanding that at that time only the name of Jesus was the guiding light because He Himself indicated a change of name when He returned in a subsequent age. So when Christ returns He won’t be called Jesus and He said so Himself. So Christians are not understanding the context of the verse and are resistant to accepting Jesus with a new name. That’s why they missed His coming so far.
And then the verse I am the way. He didn’t say only way Christians have added ‘only’.
Before Christ Krishna in the Gita said I am the beginning, middle and end of everything.
So the same sun reappears each day in the sky but we give each day a different name. Yet in reality it is the same one sun that reappears. Those lacking discernment fight over the names of the days claiming they are all different unique Suns!!
Baha’is see the same spiritual Sun of Truth reappearing each day or age with a different name but it is the one same Sun. So we accept Krishna, Moses, Buddha, Muhammad, Zoroaster, Christ, the Bab and Baha’u’llah as all Suns of Truth for Their Day,
Physically they are different identities just like the days of the week have different names. But it is the same sun that reappears each day and spiritually too it is the same Holy Spirit of God that appears through a different human instrument in each age.
The religions as they currently are already scrambled and disunited into thousands of sects which have even gone to war with each other. What is really needed is a restatement of Truth that all can find common ground on.
Baha’u’llah offers in His Book of Certitude, a way by which each religion can reconcile their differences through seeing their own Books through the eyes of God not man which has led to all these disputes wars and differences.
He explains the different stations of the Prophets. That physically they suffered pain and suffering like any man but spiritually They all sat upon the same Throne. When one becomes a Baha’i he does not give up his belief in his former Messenger but develops a much stronger bond. I was a Christian but now I accept and revere Christ and the Bible much more than when I was only Christian. Because Baha’u’llah teaches us Christ was the truth. Also the other Teachers I mentioned in a previous post. As a Christian Buddha and Krishna and Muhammad were Satan’s but as a Baha’i I revere Them and Their Holy Books. To me a Hindu, Buddhist, Muslim, Jew are all brothers and in our Houses of Worship we read from the scriptures of all the major religions each week all over the world because we believe in them.
We pray in all churches or synagogues or pagodas as we see them all worshipping the same Reality. Will you find any of the religions reading the scriptures of other religions to their congregations? The disunity and intolerance is coming from those who can’t accept there’s any truth outside their own religion. Would it cause peace or war for the different religions to look at the truth in other religions?