What women want in a man

[-Peacemaker-]

Mystic are you a playa? Somehow I suspect that I'm talking with one of RF's most bona fide playas when I talk with you. For f's sake you tempt guys to the point they take their cloths off and allow you to abuse them. THAT'S GAME. The things you could teach me...

 

[Drolefille]

Men are easier to seduce in general. The key is physical attraction on some level. Women need to be charmed as well as made to feel safe. Proof: have a handsome man go up to 20 strange women and ask them point blank if they'll have sex with him. Then have a pretty lady go up to 20 strange guys and ask the same thing. I guarantee the woman gets more people to agree. I'd be surprised if the guy got one girl to agree. Like I said the woman needs to be charmed. Relationally I would agree that there's no difference in how complicated men and women are, they're just different.

Oh yes, how many men have you seduced?

All your hypothetical "proof" shows is that the same methods don't work on men as what works with women. It doesn't have anything to do with "ease". If you just want a hookup, get on Tindr like everyone else. Or Grindr if you want to practice on the guys.

Mystic are you a playa? Somehow I suspect that I'm talking with one of RF's most bona fide playas when I talk with you. For f's sake you tempt guys to the point they take their cloths off and allow you to abuse them. THAT'S GAME. The things you could teach me...

So stop talking over her. And every other woman present.

 

[MysticSang'ha]

Mystic are you a playa? Somehow I suspect that I'm talking with one of RF's most bona fide playas when I talk with you. For f's sake you tempt guys to the point they take their cloths off and allow you to abuse them. THAT'S GAME. The things you could teach me...

I describe myself as a "whore", because I was tired of people calling me that for the purposes of shaming my proclivities, and I wanted to capture the disparaging word and empower myself with it through my own terms. I don't see myself as a "playa".

I'm quite forward when I approach men and women. I don't know exactly how other people see me, but I personally tend to go back to the self-description of "whore" for the simple sake of a label to go by. I just believe part of my happiness comes from speaking my mind and flaunting my stuff, and I alone decide what is my stuff that is worthy of flaunting. I flirt mercilessly, too.

Oh, but one more thing. And this is REALLY important. Sunstone still owes me money for the lap dance I gave him years ago. If I want people to remember anything regarding my RF antics....it's that.

 

[-Peacemaker-]

Oh yes, how many men have you seduced?

All your hypothetical "proof" shows is that the same methods don't work on men as what works with women. It doesn't have anything to do with "ease". If you just want a hookup, get on Tindr like everyone else. Or Grindr if you want to practice on the guys.

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I've been seduced and so have plenty of my friends. A little nibbling on the ear or neck and bam back to bedroom. Of course that was when I was looking for that sort of thing. I have a woman trying to seduce me right now and I'm making her work 10 times harder than I've ever worked. She keeps taking me out on dates, wining and dining me, cuddling with me. I feel like I'm the woman in this relationship. But man she's gorgeous, and those eyes. She's going to break the last bit of resolve I have for Jesus I know it.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Mystic are you a playa? Somehow I suspect that I'm talking with one of RF's most bona fide playas when I talk with you. For f's sake you tempt guys to the point they take their cloths off and allow you to abuse them. THAT'S GAME. The things you could teach me...

You make it sound like she's mean to them.

I've been seduced and so have plenty of my friends. A little nibbling on the ear or neck and bam back to bedroom. Of course that was when I was looking for that sort of thing. I have a woman trying to seduce me right now and I'm making her work 10 times harder than I've ever worked.

Nice try, there. You can't dodge the question that easily. How many men have you seduced?

She's going to break the last bit of resolve I have for Jesus I know it.

You better get to plucking and chopping then so your right hand doesn't offend the left.

I feel like I'm the woman in this relationship.

More proof of your sexism and machismo.

 

[-Peacemaker-]

Nice try, there. You can't dodge the question that easily. How many men have you seduced?

Approximately 0 but I do have some insight into the minds of men considering I am one and know many intimately. Including my own stories I know what it took for many of them to be seduced...not much

You better get to plucking and chopping then so your right hand doesn't offend the left.

What I need is to find faith to believe God will take care of me when the time is right. Unfortunately my faith has been running on empty. I think I'm just going to F this girl

More proof of your sexism and machismo.

Is it sexist to think that in general women need to be wined and dined in order to seduce them whereas with a guy you just need to name the time and place? If so it's a pretty harmless belief. Sexist is expecting women to be subservient to men. In that respect I'm a feminist.

 

[Drolefille]

Funny how men claim to know women's minds and men's minds.

Assuming women want or need something whether that be children or whining* and dining is sexist, yes.

*intentional

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Is it sexist to think that in general women need to be wined and dined in order to seduce them whereas with a guy you just need to name the time and place?

To place assumptions on women like you have been, yes. The "wine and dine" part also implies alcohol, which is not seduction but treading, and sometimes crossing, the lines between consensual and rape. It also suggests the mentality that women are all prostitutes who can be bought for the "dine," and if not then taken advantage of from the "wine."

Sexist is expecting women to be subservient to men.

So is stating that you "feel like the woman of the relationship," as this strongly implies you have a deeply ingrained sense of how rigid gender roles are supposed to be, and when your situation does not match how you feel things should be, and when the woman takes the lead, you feel emasculated.

What I need is to find faith to believe God will take care of me when the time is right. Unfortunately my faith has been running on empty. I think I'm just going to F this girl

So she's a girl now?

 

[-Peacemaker-]

To place assumptions on women like you have been, yes. The "wine and dine" part also implies alcohol, which is not seduction but treading, and sometimes crossing, the lines between consensual and rape. It also suggests the mentality that women are all prostitutes who can be bought for the "dine," and if not then taken advantage of from the "wine."

This is some sick f'n s*** right here. "Wine and dine" is an expression that implies conversation and a lot of hoopla, usually in a restaurant. Wine doesn't even have to be part of the equation. She can order a Sprite and the expression could still apply. Your mind is taking things way too literally. Also I guess I'm sexist against guys too by making a general statement about how they function

So is stating that you "feel like the woman of the relationship," as this strongly implies you have a deeply ingrained sense of how rigid gender roles are supposed to be, and when your situation does not match how you feel things should be, and when the woman takes the lead, you feel emasculated.

I don't expect women to conform to gender roles. I don't even expect myself to but that doesn't mean I don't feel a little strange when I don't. "Emasculated" is way to strong a word. I have enough self confidence to know I'm a man even when I'm the one who wants to be cuddled, taken out to eat, and romanced. She's still waiting for me to make the final move. She's done everything in her power to show me she wants me. If she decides to make the final move I'm toast, I'll capitulate. If she keeps waiting for me, I think I can resist for at least a few weeks

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Your mind is taking things way too literally.

That's not my fault.

Also I guess I'm sexist against guys too by making a general statement about how they function

Yes, you are. Gender assumptions work both ways, and either road is unfit for travel.

"Wine and dine" is an expression that implies conversation and a lot of hoopla, usually in a restaurant.

You are the one who said you have to "wine and dine" with women, which is really nothing more than "I'm going to do this so I can expect this."

I don't even expect myself to but that doesn't mean I don't feel a little strange when I don't. "Emasculated" is way to strong a word.

Saying you feel like the woman in the relationship is not only insulting to women, it is stating you feel emasculated.

If she decides to make the final move I'm toast

So it's her fault if can't remain celibate?

 

[-Peacemaker-]

You are the one who said you have to "wine and dine" with women, which is really nothing more than "I'm going to do this so I can expect this."

I've never believed this whole bit about a guy buying a woman a meal and then feeling like she owed him sex. I've just always viewed mealtime as the time to work my game. It's a man's game that gets the woman, especially if their tall and handsome. That's the big difference between guys and girls IN GENERAL. Men have to work their game (which I've outlined mine in detail to dispel notions of fast talking or hustlin'). Women just need to be ready.

Saying you feel like the woman in the relationship is not only insulting to women, it is stating you feel emasculated.

Hopefully they won't be too insulted, I've got a lot of love for the ladies

So it's her fault if can't remain celibate?

Most importantly I'll be the one that's judged for this. But I'm all for blaming this devil woman and her feminine charms catching me in a moment of weakness.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

But I'm all for blaming this devil woman and her feminine charms catching me in a moment of weakness.

This shows that although you may claim to have lots of love for the ladies, you do not respect women. Whether a moment of strength or weakness, the only one suitable to blame is yourself.

Hopefully they won't be too insulted, I've got a lot of love for the ladies

The only way you've shown this is through the enjoyment you get, adjusting your posts when called out on them, and saying you're a feminist (even though you're "all for blaming that devil woman" for your own faults). You have also pretty much ignored what women have said we want, and inserted your own believes about what we want.

 

[Deidre]

So, my neighbor. He and I have been friends for a few years. We had a brief fling summer before last summer. We've decided to start seeing each other again...having said that...other than the fact his body is that of a greek god...lol what stands out to me the most about him that I really like is...he is a GREAT listener. Just listens, and doesn't judge or condemn me. I've dated others who just can't keep from interrupting me with how they'd 'solve' my problems...maybe that's a guy thing, idk. But...he is a great listener, and he is willing to help, but doesn't want to solve my problems for me.

Idk, that might sound weird...but thinking about my friendship with him, that is important to me now.

 

[-Peacemaker-]

Whether a moment of strength or weakness, the only one suitable to blame is yourself.

no s***. I thought it was pretty obvious I was kidding by the fact I said I'd be judged for what I'll probably end up doing. Obviously that means I understand the truth is that it's all my fault. Who wouldn't want to put all their sins on someone else if they could?

The only way you've shown this is through the enjoyment you get, adjusting your posts when called out on them, and saying you're a feminist (even though you're "all for blaming that devil woman" for your own faults). You have also pretty much ignored what women have said we want, and inserted your own believes about what we want.

The enjoyment I get out of what? The company of women? I adore the company of women. The whole experience is an intoxicating. I seek a communion of hearts through emotional intimacy, that's hardly just love for a woman's body. That requires love for a woman's whole person. That's all I've ever said on here. Sometimes people take things the wrong way and they need to be recommunicated. It's easy to miscommunicate or not fully communicate in this medium. That doesn't make people liars

 

[Drolefille]

If you find yourself frequently miscommunicating, perhaps it isn't other people taking it the wrong way but the way you communicate it.

 

[-Peacemaker-]

If you find yourself frequently miscommunicating, perhaps it isn't other people taking it the wrong way but the way you communicate it.

Fortunately I have my good friends here at RF to help me when I miscommunicate

 

[Drolefille]

Fortunately I have my good friends here at RF to help me when I miscommunicate

It really isn't their responsibility. But please do continue to tell us how YOU know what all women want, and what all men want.

 

[-Peacemaker-]

It really isn't their responsibility. But please do continue to tell us how YOU know what all women want, and what all men want.

Much of the info I shared would be better suited for a thread named "how to attract women and have your relationship flourish". In this arena I've claimed some expertise and it's the topic I find most interesting. The thread as it's titled basically invites woman to share what they want in a companion. Each woman has their own individual list of characteristics that they're looking for in a mate. I can't possibly know what that looks like for each woman.

 

[Drolefille]

Much of the info I shared would be better suited for a thread named "how to attract women and have your relationship flourish". In this arena I've claimed some expertise and it's the topic I find most interesting. The thread as it's titled basically invites woman to share what they want in a companion. Each woman has their own individual list of characteristics that they're looking for in a mate. I can't possibly know what that looks like for each woman.

I can't even anymore.

 

[Deidre]

hahaha ^^

Aye.

I didn't want to interject...but then I read the word ''expertise.'' Oh my.