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whats your beef with brexit?

LionLooking

Member
I don't care what farage would have done, we would have to accept it like the referendum to join the common market.
If the result of that referendum was to be accepted, by your logic, there would never have been a second.
The NHS was born in 1948,the first state pensions 1909,paid holidays 1878 so.......
Yep, continual progress. Leaving the EU is going backwards, not forwards.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
If the result of that referendum was to be accepted, by your logic, there would never have been a second.

That was to join not to leave, it took many years to get this referendum too,

Yep, continual progress. Leaving the EU is going backwards, not forwards.

We'll see,I'm quite a positive person so I think long term we'll be better off, when the eu sinks at least we won't be on board.
 

LionLooking

Member
That was to join not to leave, it took many years to get this referendum too,
And even if it takes many years for another referendum to get us back in, I'll keep campaigning
We'll see,
Well, the younger among us will. The older folks who dragged them into the mess will be long gone.
I'm quite a positive person so I think long term we'll be better off, when the eu sinks at least we won't be on board.
I doubt the EU will sink. It'll continue to get stronger while England and Wales (Scotland and NI will leave the Union) dwindle away.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
And even if it takes many years for another referendum to get us back in, I'll keep campaigning

It will and unlikely to happen.

Well, the younger among us will. The older folks who dragged them into the mess will be long gone.

So would you like "older folks" vote not to count, I mean how dare they vote.

I doubt the EU will sink. It'll continue to get stronger while England and Wales (Scotland and NI will leave the Union) dwindle away.

The thought that about the titanic
 

LionLooking

Member
It will and unlikely to happen.
That's what they said about the Brexit referendum - yet, because of the campaigning of Farage and his ilk, it happened.
So would you like "older folks" vote not to count, I mean how dare they vote.
Of course they can vote - but the younger generation will have to fix the mess they created.
The thought that about the titanic
And about the UK's future outside the EU.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
That's what they said about the Brexit referendum - yet, because of the campaigning of Farage and his ilk, it happened.

Not sure what his "ilk" means.

Of course they can vote - but the younger generation will have to fix the mess they created.

That's kind of you.

And about the UK's future outside the EU.

We'll see
 

LionLooking

Member
I actually don't care what he's like but he succeeded in his quest unlike Cameron, my vote wasn't because of either.
Cameron was the fool who brought about this disaster.
I've never seen my country so divided and there is no effort to bring us together. All Farage can do is call those of us who want to remain 'Whingers' and 'moaners'.
Just as he campaigned to drag us out of the EU, there are a great many of us who will campaign to stay in. Or, should the worst happen and Brexit actually take place, campaign to rejoin.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
Cameron was the fool who brought about this disaster.
I've never seen my country so divided and there is no effort to bring us together. All Farage can do is call those of us who want to remain 'Whingers' and 'moaners'.
Just as he campaigned to drag us out of the EU, there are a great many of us who will campaign to stay in. Or, should the worst happen and Brexit actually take place, campaign to rejoin.

Well to be honest we do hear whinging and moaning,Cameron may have been a fool but you are carrying on his "project fear" legacy.
 

LionLooking

Member
Call it a disaster if you like

I will, thank you.
...but if you are going to blame anyone, blame the EU...
No, I shall blame Cameron for allowing the fringe of his party to get their own way
..for sending Cameron home with his tail between his legs when he went over there with reasonable demands.
He was happy with the changes he got. So was I. Only Brexiteers thought he got a bad deal, but they would have thought the same no matter what he came back with.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
I'm a Labour voter but I don't like Corbyn; however he is infinitely better than the current lot.

I am a Labour voter now, and have read so many reports of Mr Corbyn's past strange ideas. But..... we do need a leader who is committed to the NHS, Care in the Community, a secure National Pension, Nationally controlled travel and community services etc and I reckon that he would push for all of those.

If he can win a GM for Labour, then 'fair enough'. :)
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
And about the UK's future outside the EU.

It wasn't such a good deal, the EU.
My friend married a Dutch Lady and moved to Holland to live with her. He couldn't get a job over there.......... the authorities told him to go home if he wanted a job, or go home and apply for a contract job which involved him returning and working in Holland. Nor was he elligble for any benefits.

Very one sided deals. Nah....... let's get out, 2% majority or not.
 
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