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when is jesus speaking directly to his followers?

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
may be "son of man" means goyim, because if we suppose that he is a jew he should be a son of God not a "son of man".
this verse assure what i m talking about
mat :
21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
he is talking to jews , he said the kingdom will be given to another nation
which mean nessecerly goyims
so you shall not trace the jewish history for the glad tiding.

The 'nation' that brings forth the fruits is Not a nation with boundaries.
That 'redeemer nation' is spiritual and Not a literal nation with borders.
Those that produce the 'fruits' produce the fruits of the spirit of Gal 5vs22,23.

So, anyone living anywhere on earth, in any country or nation can become part of God's spiritual nation by becoming a follower of Christ.
A Jew can become a Christian. A Gentile can become a Christian, etc.
2nd Peter 2v9 refers to that 'spiritual nation' as a holy nation.....
 

waitasec

Veteran Member
Constantine lived hundreds of years 'after' Christ.
Christianity sprouted in the first century with Jesus teachings.
The religious landscape changed with the time of Christ.
'After' the time of Christ 'weed-like Christians' began to flourish.
Fake Christians also, but after Christ, changed the religious landscape.
They adopted non-Christian ideas and concepts as 'Christian'.
So Constantine sprouted at the time pagan or non-Christians beliefs abounded.
So the 'church' created a fusion religion called Christendom.
That fusion religion was a mixture or blending of Christian names and labels attached to pagan traditions and practices that would now be passed off as Christian. -Acts 20vs29,30

This fusion or composite religion would exist until the time of the fulfillment of Revelation. It will not collapse upon itself. As in the past God used political or military forces to go against what was religiously false, so again God will use the political world to go against or turn against the world's religious sector that has run afoul playing false to God. First to go will be Christendom because she is the one who claims to follow Christ but proves herself false to him and his teachings.

still, the bible you hold in your hand is a consequence from constantine...
his reign was a turning point for the church...which sprouted from weeds, as you call it...all while constantine was worshiping the sun god a long side the christian god.

acts 20:29-30 is about the jews who did not believe christ as messiah.
"men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them." there is not one word about traditions here. he knew he wouldn't be back and this is his final plea to stay faithful waiting for the return of jesus that was "at hand".
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
still, the bible you hold in your hand is a consequence from constantine...
his reign was a turning point for the church...which sprouted from weeds, as you call it...all while constantine was worshiping the sun god a long side the christian god.
acts 20:29-30 is about the jews who did not believe christ as messiah.
"men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them." there is not one word about traditions here. he knew he wouldn't be back and this is his final plea to stay faithful waiting for the return of jesus that was "at hand".

Yes after the end of first-century Christianity, began a worshiping of pagan sun god concepts and ideas along side of Scripture or the Christian God.
This blending or fusing created not true Christianity but Christendom or counterfeit Christianity.

As far as their getting their hands, so to speak, on Scripture, there was no way they could go against Bible canon, or which books would be part of the Bible because God is the Author of the Bible. God informs us that his hand was not short and God was actually the overseer of what Books he wanted as canon.
see 2nd Tim 3vs16,17. Internal harmony, corresponding and parallel verses and passages, also helps confirm Scripture.

After Pentecost the Christian congregation was established.
Acts 20v21 includes both Jews and Greeks. So the congregation of God in verse 28 was now the Christian congregation that Paul gave warning in verses 29,30. False Christian shepherds would be fleecing the Christian flock of God.
So the apostles acted as a restraint against these 'weeds' or wolf-like clergy.
Once the apostles were gone, as Jesus said wheat [genuine Christians] would grow together with weed [fake Christians] until the time of separation or the time of Matthew 25v32 directly ahead of us. How people are now reacting to Matthew 24v14 is a basis for Jesus judgment of the people of Matt 25v32.

Words like 'immediately' in Scripture do not always mean immediately in time sequence, but rather the next thing to occur in a line of events.
Such as Matthew 24v29 bridges a long period of time to the modern day tribulation point of Matt 24v21.

Just as in the year 70 the political/military Romans proved to be the abomination of Matt 24v15, in its major or modern-day fulfillment the political/military 'ax', so to speak, will also be used.
The world sees a hauntingly dangerous religious climate brewing.
With backing the UN can be strengthened to serve as God's 'ax' against the world's religions that have run afoul playing false to God and his Word.
These weed-like religions think they sit as a 'queen' that will never see mourning. Since they do not collapse on their own, it will come as a shock that the political 'kings' or world rulers turn on her.
-Rev 17vs2,17; 18vs7,8
 
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waitasec

Veteran Member
Words like 'immediately' in Scripture do not always mean immediately in time sequence, but rather the next thing to occur in a line of events.
Such as Matthew 24v29 bridges a long period of time to the modern day tribulation point of Matt 24v21.

so paul and john were kidding when they wrote things like; "the lord is near", "in these last days", “in a little while, and will not tarry", "then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up"
"the time is at hand", "behold, i am coming soon"
or
1 John 2:18

18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
come on now. :rolleyes:
 
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URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
so paul and john were kidding when they wrote things like; "the lord is near", "in these last days", “in a little while, and will not tarry", "then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up"
"the time is at hand", "behold, i am coming soon"
or
1 John 2:18
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
come on now. :rolleyes:

The time period addressed at 1Jn2v18 is the last hour [last time] so to speak, of the apostolic period.
Luke wrote about that at Acts 20vs29,30.

The time frame of those that remain and be caught up of 1st Thess 4v16 is set in the future at the coming time of Jesus 'glory' time of Matt 25vs31,32.
[PS this is not talking about rapture]

The last days of 2Tim3vs1-5,13 are the last days of badness on earth before Matthew 25 v32.

A lot of people seem to capitalize antichrist as if it is a person.
Anyone who is antichirst is one who is against Christ.
The clergy of Christendom [2 Thess 2vs 3-8] sit themselves in the temple of God or God's house of worship as if he is God when in actuality he is anti-God.

So the restraint or withholding of verse 6 is the apostles acting as a restraint in first-century Christianity. After the end of the first century, genuine [wheat] Christians would grow together over the centuries with the fake [weed/tares] antichrist Christians until the time of Matthew 25vs31,32.
See Matthew chapter 7.

Rev 22v20 Jesus is coming quickly at that time frame.
That would be the time frame to execute judgment on the great religious harlot [Babylon the Great] of chapters 17,18.
You might want to compare Rev 19v15 with 2v16. 3v11; 22v7,12
 

waitasec

Veteran Member
The time period addressed at 1Jn2v18 is the last hour [last time] so to speak, of the apostolic period.
Luke wrote about that at Acts 20vs29,30.

The time frame of those that remain and be caught up of 1st Thess 4v16 is set in the future at the coming time of Jesus 'glory' time of Matt 25vs31,32.
[PS this is not talking about rapture]

The last days of 2Tim3vs1-5,13 are the last days of badness on earth before Matthew 25 v32.

A lot of people seem to capitalize antichrist as if it is a person.
Anyone who is antichirst is one who is against Christ.
The clergy of Christendom [2 Thess 2vs 3-8] sit themselves in the temple of God or God's house of worship as if he is God when in actuality he is anti-God.

So the restraint or withholding of verse 6 is the apostles acting as a restraint in first-century Christianity. After the end of the first century, genuine [wheat] Christians would grow together over the centuries with the fake [weed/tares] antichrist Christians until the time of Matthew 25vs31,32.
See Matthew chapter 7.

Rev 22v20 Jesus is coming quickly at that time frame.
That would be the time frame to execute judgment on the great religious harlot [Babylon the Great] of chapters 17,18.
You might want to compare Rev 19v15 with 2v16. 3v11; 22v7,12

1 john 2 :18 "...and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour."
compare this with the beast in rev 13...
what time frame are you talking about?

rev 22:6
The angel said to me, “These words are trustworthy and true. The Lord, the God who inspires the prophets, sent his angel to show his servants the things that must soon take place
7 “Look, I am coming soon!

10 Then he told me, “Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this scroll, because the time is near.

12 “Look, I am coming soon!

20 He who testifies to these things says, “Yes, I am coming soon

in rev 2:8

to the church in Smyrna
(Ancient Greek: Σμύρνη or Σμύρνα) was an ancient city located at a central and strategic point on the Aegean coast of Anatolia.

or in rev 2:12 if you consider the church of...
"Pergamon, Pergamum or Pérgamo (Ancient Greek: Πέργαμον or Πέργαμος) was an ancient Greek city in modern-day Turkey, in Mysia, today located 16 miles (26 km) from the Aegean Sea on a promontory on the north side of the river Caicus (modern day Bakırçay), that became the capital of the Kingdom of Pergamon during the Hellenistic period, under the Attalid dynasty, 281–133 BC. Today, the main sites of ancient Pergamon are to the north and west of the modern city of Bergama."

if you want you can look and see how the other churches in revelations are doing today...
i hear they are thriving :facepalm:
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
waitasec-

A few years back I met a woman that toured the 7 of Revelation and was awe inspired by her trip.

As far as the beast of Rev 13 it stands up out of the 'sea'. So that would be the restless 'sea' of humanity. -Rev 17vs2,15; Isaiah 57v20; 17vs 12,13.

The leopard, bear, lion, dragon link to Daniel 7vs 2-8
In another vision Daniel sees the ram and goat representing government of the powers of Media and Persia and Greece.

The 7 heads of Rev 13v1 stand for 6 major world powers of Bible history with a 7th power on the way at the time of the writing of Revelation.

By the time of Christ, Rome was the ascending political world power.
By our time frame the once huge British world empire along with the USA take center stage.
Notice no nation ever adopts as its emblem a Sheep.
The British lion, American Eagle, Chinese dragon, old Russian bear......

The other beast of Rev 13 verse 11 speaks like a dragon speaks, even though its ears are the tame small animal ears found on a lamb. This symbolic beast does not come out of the 'sea' but out of the 'earth' . Since Satan is the god of this world bringing woe to earth [2Cor 4v4; Rev 12v12], then this beast comes out of Satan's established human, earthly society or system.

At Rev 13vs14, 15 an 'image' is made of the governmental beast.
An image of course is not the actual thing but represents something.
Like the United Nations represents the nations although it is not literally the nations united.
So the purpose of the 'image' is to promote nationalistic worship- verse 15 B.
All three: Big politics, Big business and Big religion focus to keep the 'image' alive.

The symbolic 'mark' makes it difficult for those that follow Jesus to remain neutral as Jesus and his first-century followers were politically neutral. -John 6v15

Interesting that the beast has the name 666. Six as a number is associated with enemies of God such as the Philistine man whose fingers and toes were in sixes. -1Chron 20v6.
And the measurements in Daniel [3vs 1-23] of the king's golden image 6 cubits breadth and 60 cubits high also to unite or unify the political with worship.

So the beast of Rev 13 comes up to our day or our time frame.
Do you recall the time setting for Revelation?
Please notice Rev 1v10. John found himself transported in time, so to speak, to the time period of the Lord's day. This would include fulfillment of the 16 Revelation visions.
The 'day' that God executes adverse judgment on those of Psalm 92v7.
Paul refers to this fulfillment at 1st Cor 1v8; 2Cor 1v14 of Matthew 25v31,32.
Jesus starts his rule from heaven in the midst of his enemies.-Psalm 110v2.; 2vs2-4
So Jesus is going to first separate people during this time of 'woe' Rev 12v12
before Jesus ushers in Peace on Earth toward men of goodwill.
 

waitasec

Veteran Member
waitasec-

A few years back I met a woman that toured the 7 of Revelation and was awe inspired by her trip.

As far as the beast of Rev 13 it stands up out of the 'sea'. So that would be the restless 'sea' of humanity. -Rev 17vs2,15; Isaiah 57v20; 17vs 12,13.

The leopard, bear, lion, dragon link to Daniel 7vs 2-8
In another vision Daniel sees the ram and goat representing government of the powers of Media and Persia and Greece.

The 7 heads of Rev 13v1 stand for 6 major world powers of Bible history with a 7th power on the way at the time of the writing of Revelation.

By the time of Christ, Rome was the ascending political world power.
By our time frame the once huge British world empire along with the USA take center stage.
Notice no nation ever adopts as its emblem a Sheep.
The British lion, American Eagle, Chinese dragon, old Russian bear......

The other beast of Rev 13 verse 11 speaks like a dragon speaks, even though its ears are the tame small animal ears found on a lamb. This symbolic beast does not come out of the 'sea' but out of the 'earth' . Since Satan is the god of this world bringing woe to earth [2Cor 4v4; Rev 12v12], then this beast comes out of Satan's established human, earthly society or system.

At Rev 13vs14, 15 an 'image' is made of the governmental beast.
An image of course is not the actual thing but represents something.
Like the United Nations represents the nations although it is not literally the nations united.
So the purpose of the 'image' is to promote nationalistic worship- verse 15 B.
All three: Big politics, Big business and Big religion focus to keep the 'image' alive.

The symbolic 'mark' makes it difficult for those that follow Jesus to remain neutral as Jesus and his first-century followers were politically neutral. -John 6v15

Interesting that the beast has the name 666. Six as a number is associated with enemies of God such as the Philistine man whose fingers and toes were in sixes. -1Chron 20v6.
And the measurements in Daniel [3vs 1-23] of the king's golden image 6 cubits breadth and 60 cubits high also to unite or unify the political with worship.

So the beast of Rev 13 comes up to our day or our time frame.
Do you recall the time setting for Revelation?
Please notice Rev 1v10. John found himself transported in time, so to speak, to the time period of the Lord's day. This would include fulfillment of the 16 Revelation visions.
The 'day' that God executes adverse judgment on those of Psalm 92v7.
Paul refers to this fulfillment at 1st Cor 1v8; 2Cor 1v14 of Matthew 25v31,32.
Jesus starts his rule from heaven in the midst of his enemies.-Psalm 110v2.; 2vs2-4
So Jesus is going to first separate people during this time of 'woe' Rev 12v12
before Jesus ushers in Peace on Earth toward men of goodwill.

that was an interesting read, but why did you avoid what i so clearly pointed out...?
:(

john thought he was in the last hour... he says it himself. you interpret what john says to apply to today...2000 yrs later. is it possible for you to read what he says without reading into it? why must the bible be so cryptic? especially revelations, seems john was on hallucinogenic mushrooms.

are you throwing out red herrings to avoid looking at these passages without any preconceived notions, or are you just ignoring what i previously pointed out to you?
can you look at the passages i posted and refute my point by using these same passages within it's original context without cherry picking irrelevant ideas?
 
that was an interesting read, but why did you avoid what i so clearly pointed out...?
:(

john thought he was in the last hour... he says it himself. you interpret what john says to apply to today...2000 yrs later. is it possible for you to read what he says without reading into it? why must the bible be so cryptic? especially revelations, seems john was on hallucinogenic mushrooms.

are you throwing out red herrings to avoid looking at these passages without any preconceived notions, or are you just ignoring what i previously pointed out to you?
can you look at the passages i posted and refute my point by using these same passages within it's original context without cherry picking irrelevant ideas?
What you read in Revelation is about the Temple, and only about the Temple.

When a third of the waters are killed, It is the waters inside a person.
I am he who holds the 7 stars in my right hand. --This is the alter of incencse speaking of the Menorah. I am the two witnesses of Revealtion, and I am also the third. it is a 3 and a half year timeline from Jesus being the prophet, then he moves to being a priest, and then a king. The dsiciples also went through these same phases. I am the Oil, and I am the wine. All of Revelation concerns the Temple, Nothing in it is not about the temple. The way to know the future is to study the temple as a rabbi would, and then you will be able to read what the future holds.

The servant will be cut in two, and 5 will be on the left, and 5 on the right.
Jesus said that from now on, there will be 5 in a house, these are 5 aspects of one human, 3 will be against 2, or 2 will be against 3.

A person has two sets of parents to choose from, he can choose Adam and eve, and the 3 will be against the lamb and the father, or he can choose the lamb and the father, and the 3 will be against Adam and eve.
 
so paul and john were kidding when they wrote things like; "the lord is near", "in these last days", “in a little while, and will not tarry", "then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up"
"the time is at hand", "behold, i am coming soon"
or
1 John 2:18

18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
come on now. :rolleyes:
The KIngdom of heaven is within you now.

The 4 beasts are within you, 24 elders fall to the ground when the beasts speak.
These 24 elders are within you.

You are the Temple, and everything within.
You are the body of Christ, and everything that pertains to a real body.

If you look at all the Temple's objects, it's coming, and it's goings, You will see a dolphin swimming in the desert, you will see a virgin giving birth.
a dolphin standing in the holy place looking at a woman.

The kingdom of heaven can be accessed right now, or a thousand years ago.

There is a threshold to pass, But once you pass it, you will find yourself in heaven.
 

waitasec

Veteran Member
What you read in Revelation is about the Temple, and only about the Temple.

When a third of the waters are killed, It is the waters inside a person.
I am he who holds the 7 stars in my right hand. --This is the alter of incencse speaking of the Menorah. I am the two witnesses of Revealtion, and I am also the third. it is a 3 and a half year timeline from Jesus being the prophet, then he moves to being a priest, and then a king. The dsiciples also went through these same phases. I am the Oil, and I am the wine. All of Revelation concerns the Temple, Nothing in it is not about the temple. The way to know the future is to study the temple as a rabbi would, and then you will be able to read what the future holds.

The servant will be cut in two, and 5 will be on the left, and 5 on the right.
Jesus said that from now on, there will be 5 in a house, these are 5 aspects of one human, 3 will be against 2, or 2 will be against 3.

A person has two sets of parents to choose from, he can choose Adam and eve, and the 3 will be against the lamb and the father, or he can choose the lamb and the father, and the 3 will be against Adam and eve.


mattew 24:30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth[c] will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.[d] 31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

32 “Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. 33 Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it[e] is near, right at the door. 34 Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

1 john 2:3 We know that we have come to know him if we keep his commands. 4 Whoever says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person....

18 Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour.

2 thess 2:13 But we ought always to thank God for YOU, brothers and sisters loved by the Lord, because God chose YOU.. 14 He called you to this through our gospel, that YOU might share in the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.

2 thess 3:1 As for other matters, brothers and sisters, pray for us that the message of the Lord may spread RAPIDLY and be honored, just as it was with YOU.

why the hurry? was it because they believed "this is the last hour"

sorry times up...:yes:
 

waitasec

Veteran Member
The KIngdom of heaven is within you now.

The 4 beasts are within you, 24 elders fall to the ground when the beasts speak.
These 24 elders are within you.

You are the Temple, and everything within.
You are the body of Christ, and everything that pertains to a real body.

If you look at all the Temple's objects, it's coming, and it's goings, You will see a dolphin swimming in the desert, you will see a virgin giving birth.
a dolphin standing in the holy place looking at a woman.

The kingdom of heaven can be accessed right now, or a thousand years ago.
there is a threshold to pass, But once you pass it, you will find yourself in heaven.

you are reading into scripture...
are you going to sell all your possessions and give everything you have to the poor? jesus commanded you to. somehow i don't think you would subscribe to your lords commandment...
what about...
matt 25:34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in"
 
mattew 24:30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth[c] will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.[d] 31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

32 “Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. 33 Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it[e] is near, right at the door. 34 Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

1 john 2:3 We know that we have come to know him if we keep his commands. 4 Whoever says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person....

18 Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour.

2 thess 2:13 But we ought always to thank God for YOU, brothers and sisters loved by the Lord, because God chose YOU.. 14 He called you to this through our gospel, that YOU might share in the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.

2 thess 3:1 As for other matters, brothers and sisters, pray for us that the message of the Lord may spread RAPIDLY and be honored, just as it was with YOU.

why the hurry? was it because they believed "this is the last hour"

sorry times up...:yes:
What is the figtree?
What is the summer?

What are the clouds?
 
you are reading into scripture...
are you going to sell all your possessions and give everything you have to the poor? jesus commanded you to. somehow i don't think you would subscribe to your lords commandment...
what about...
matt 25:34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in"
I read the Temple into it. Many will come and say,'' I am the Temple, I am the body of christ'' But they do not know the Temple or the body. And so the servant will be cut in two, and then the kingdom of heaven will be five on this side, and 5 on the other, 5 on mount Ebal, and 5 on shechem.
Have you ever counted the coverings of the Temple, or do you know what the veils are made of?

What would you see if you were there when the Veil was split in two pieces?
 

waitasec

Veteran Member
I read the Temple into it. Many will come and say,'' I am the Temple, I am the body of christ'' But they do not know the Temple or the body. And so the servant will be cut in two, and then the kingdom of heaven will be five on this side, and 5 on the other, 5 on mount Ebal, and 5 on shechem.
Have you ever counted the coverings of the Temple, or do you know what the veils are made of?

What would you see if you were there when the Veil was split in two pieces?

irrelevant...
a ruse you bought into...:sorry1:
 
irrelevant
Nothing in the Bible is irrelevant, trees are what they are.

Fig trees give milk, anyone who has had a fig tree has seen the milk.

The Oaks of Bashan stand in the first born, They are high and lofty as the cedars of lebanon are, and the tribes are put under trees, and called trees many times, according to how they act.

The Menorah is a tree standing in the Holy place overlaid with gold, and on each side of the throne are two olive trees which give their light to the world. Cypress sets it's roots down unto the water under the foundation of the Temple.

But an almond tree, is the greatest tree of all, and this is the tree of life.

Adam and Eve hid themselves amongst the trees, they grabbed hold of the fig tree and took it's leaves to cover their nakedness, But a fig tree will only give a child milk, when it is meat it needs to survive, and where the leaves of your tree will fail, a calf must be rendered in order to hide yourself under it's skin.
 

waitasec

Veteran Member
Nothing in the Bible is irrelevant, trees are what they are.

Fig trees give milk, anyone who has had a fig tree has seen the milk.

The Oaks of Bashan stand in the first born, They are high and lofty as the cedars of lebanon are, and the tribes are put under trees, and called trees many times, according to how they act.

The Menorah is a tree standing in the Holy place overlaid with gold, and on each side of the throne are two olive trees which give their light to the world. Cypress sets it's roots down unto the water under the foundation of the Temple.

But an almond tree, is the greatest tree of all, and this is the tree of life.

Adam and Eve hid themselves amongst the trees, they grabbed hold of the fig tree and took it's leaves to cover their nakedness, But a fig tree will only give a child milk, when it is meat it needs to survive, and where the leaves of your tree will fail, a calf must be rendered in order to hide yourself under it's skin.

well obviously the scriptures i pointed out to you are irrelevant...because you are reading into it and making up excuses for why christ never came back..as they expected would happen with urgency which i have pointed out over and over...
 
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