When will humans grow wings?

[Trey of Diamonds]

I give it another 30 years.

 

[Falvlun]

Question: When will cows develop canines and claws for ripping and shredding meat?
Answer: Unlikely that they ever will, because cows evolved as herbivores, and do just fine eating grass. You don't need claws for eating grass.

Likewise, there was no evolutionary pressure for humans to develop wings, because they didn't need 'em, and so humans never developed them.

Also, something worth remembering. Evolution is not a progressive ladder. It is more like a bush, with random branches poking every which way. Evolution dictates that an organism is uniquely adapted to its environment. It doesn't care whether that requires complex, flashy anatomical bits or simple ones, as long is it does the job in the most efficient way possible.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

I think one of the biggest mistakes people make is believing we are evolving towards a goal. The only finish line evolution has is extinction not some sort of super-species.

 

[shawn001]

humans are still evolving, look it up.

 

[Drax]

Man has grown wings though! He had found a need to fly, developed the technology to do so and thus the airplane was born!

 

[Father Heathen]

There needs to be a rule that requires people to understand what evolution actually is before they attempt to debate against it.

 

[outhouse]

There needs to be a rule that requires people to understand what evolution actually is before they attempt to debate against it.

I agree


It would be great if there was a heading "LOOK ITS NOT UP FOR DEBATE"

And just be done with pseudoscience right off the bat.

We would lose humor though :areyoucra

 

[Iti oj]

when our bomes hollow and we grow seconmd arms to become wings and when we need to fly because we all live in sky scrappers

 

[averageJOE]

I will believe in evolution over design/guidance when I see the first winged man.

Seeing a winged man in your life time would go against what evolution is about.

 

[nnmartin]

Also, something worth remembering. Evolution is not a progressive ladder. It is more like a bush, with random branches poking every which way.

But a bush has its size limits.

Usually bushes are nice and round - they are pruned at the correct size by a gardener.

This is the same with humans , they are on the outside edge of the bush - the furthest DNA will evolve to on this planet.

Anything more complex than this becomes too much for DNA to handle, so pruning occurs.

 

[PolyHedral]

But a bush has its size limits.

Usually bushes are nice and round - they are pruned at the correct size by a gardener.

This is the same with humans , they are on the outside edge of the bush - the furthest DNA will evolve to on this planet.

Anything more complex than this becomes too much for DNA to handle, so pruning occurs.

Humans do not have the longest genomes by far.

 

[McBell]

There needs to be a rule that requires people to understand what evolution actually is before they attempt to debate against it.

Or at the very least be sober when they attempt to "debate"....

 

[johnhanks]

There needs to be a rule that requires people to understand what evolution actually is before they attempt to debate against it.

Most of the time, most of us self-regulate on that, don't we? By which I mean, those of us who aren't (say) economists wouldn't dream of going to an economics forum, posting our views on the validity of hydraulic macroeconomics and while openly confessing our ignorance still expect to be taken seriously.

This is true, surely, of most creationists wrt most of science: not even at their most paranoid would they expect their judgments on Mitchell's chemiosmotic hypothesis or Munch's Mass Flow Theory to be given equal weight to those of professionals in the field. But those same people see evolution as somehow exempt from such common-sense self-restraint: "never mind that I haven't studied it: I don't like it, so it has to be wrong".

 

[A.Anderson]

With all the talk of how amazing evolution is I have yet to see a flying person.

Have you tried an airport? Joking aside, I have yet to see a flying pig as well, now you have two killer arguments against evolution!

Ok, so we have supposedly evolved by chance from the primordial soup - why have we stopped now though - how about a pair of wings or even a third arm?

Who said we have stopped evolving? It would be more correct to ask why you don't notice evolution in humans which can be replied simply with: Because your life span is too short.

Quite clearly evolution has stopped with the human being - the highest creature intended to exist on Earth.

I will believe in evolution over design/guidance when I see the first winged man.

Nice strawman, here is mine: "I'll believe in ID over evolution when the intelligent designer makes me cookies with my initials in them". See how silly it is creating false dichotomies from strawman arguments?

Ever seen a person that can run as fast as a lion?
Ever seen a woman as strong as an ape?

Hmm, it appears your statement '...the human being - the highest creature intended to exist on Earth.' is incorrect in regards to land speed and physical strength. Our only advantage is intelligence, in all other areas we fail as a species.

Because of the lack of these abilities it is quite apparent that evolution is only a very small part of the whole event.

Sorry, but no.

 

[nnmartin]

But those same people see evolution as somehow exempt from such common-sense self-restraint: "never mind that I haven't studied it: I don't like it, so it has to be wrong".

You would need knowledge to debate economics or specific scientific theories as these are man made.

But no-one knows the whole picture of evolution/life/death etc.. - no one can tell us what happened millions of years ago or what happened before the Big Bang.

It is easy to just go along blindly with Darwin as he could be believed to have sown up the whole meaning of life, packaged it into a nice 'by chance' argument that neatly explains everything. If only things were that simple.

You don't need a doctorate in biology to see that this whole 'by chance' evolution theory is too easy.

 

[Father Heathen]

It is easy to just go along blindly with Darwin

But people aren't "just going along blindly" because there is a huge, insurmountable mountain of evidence that confirms the theory of evolution. It's those who close their eyes to the evidence who are blind.

 

[nnmartin]

they go along blindly in the sense that they believe Darwinism has explained the existence, meaning, creation and destruction of life on Earth.

Darwinism has wrapped up the whole debate according to these people who are now ready for the next topic. Darwinism is simplicity itself - if you don't understand how some life process works then just write it off to chance, saves having to think too much.

People are scared rigid by the idea of God, Intelligent Design , Alien life , The Supernatural or any other religious or unknown belief system that challenges the supremacy of Darwinian evolution.

People don't want to worry about supposed Forces whether scientific or religious so they just accept Darwin period.

Yes, evolution does explain a lot of things but it also leaves a lot of unanswered questions.

 

[McBell]

Yes, evolution does explain a lot of things but it also leaves a lot of unanswered questions.

Evolution provides far more meaningful answers than "goddidit" type answers.

Though I suspect that that is a big part of the problem.
So many people so desperate to put their god somewhere, they are willing to put him everywhere.

 

[McBell]

they go along blindly in the sense that they believe Darwinism has explained the existence, meaning, creation and destruction of life on Earth.

Then they, like you, have no idea what they are talking about and are merely filling in the gaps with something that does not answer said gaps.

Darwinism has wrapped up the whole debate according to these people who are now ready for the next topic. Darwinism is simplicity itself - if you don't understand how some life process works then just write it off to chance, saves having to think too much.

For some people, yes, Darwinism has wrapped it all up, just like for those who use god, or the force, to wrap it all up.

However, there are lots of people who do not use god, darwinism, or the force to wrap it all up.
Thus the reason that evolution has gone so far past darwinism.

People are scared rigid by the idea of God, Intelligent Design , Alien life , The Supernatural or any other religious or unknown belief system that challenges the supremacy of Darwinian evolution.

Yes, the ignorant are usually scared.
And it does not help when the pushy of the ignorants are spreading misinformation, bold faced lies, and their own agendas

People don't want to worry about supposed Forces whether scientific or religious so they just accept Darwin period.

And others just accept god, period.
and still others just accept the force, period.
and still others accept that although it is not complete, evolution has gone way past where darwin left off and is STILL the best explanation that does not resort to magic.

 

[johnhanks]

they go along blindly in the sense that they believe Darwinism has explained the existence, meaning, creation and destruction of life on Earth.

There's a lot more to modern evolutionary theory than 'Darwinism'. Even in its entirety, however, ToE has nothing to say about the 'creation' of life on earth. It's a theory about changes in gene pools over time, including but not restricted to those that lead to speciation.

Darwinism has wrapped up the whole debate according to these people who are now ready for the next topic. Darwinism is simplicity itself - if you don't understand how some life process works then just write it off to chance, saves having to think too much.

You haven't studied a lot of biology, have you?