Where are the Dead?

[Sgt. Pepper]

I live in the present. I don't care about ancient history.

I enjoy reading about ancient history. I think it's quite fascinating. I studied it in college, as well as other history courses. History is a passion of mine.

 

[Trailblazer]

Yes.

Who are they?

Do you not read books... all that is history.

So nothing is of value if it is past ???how many years?

I do not read history books. I don't have time. The past is gone and the present and the future are all that matters.
The Bible is a record of the past. The Christian Dispensation is over.

Dispensation

1. the divine ordering of the affairs of the world.
2. an appointment, arrangement, or favor, as by God.
3. a divinely appointed order or age:

e.g. the old Mosaic, or Jewish, dispensation; the new gospel, or Christian, dispensation.

Definition of dispensation | Dictionary.com

 

[dwb001]

Who are they?

The Guy who made the place.

I do not read history books. I don't have time. The past is gone and the present and the future are all that matters.

Tell that to the Jews about the Nazi.

The Bible is a record of the past. The Christian Dispensation is over.

Dispensation

1. the divine ordering of the affairs of the world.
2. an appointment, arrangement, or favor, as by God.
3. a divinely appointed order or age:

e.g. the old Mosaic, or Jewish, dispensation; the new gospel, or Christian, dispensation.

Definition of dispensation | Dictionary.com

I dint believe in dispensationalism. Arbitrary divisions of time/place/culture etc are artificial in every way.

 

[Trailblazer]

The Guy who made the place.

Who is that?

Tell that to the Jews about the Nazi.

If people want to live in the past that's their choice. I choose to live in the present. The past is gone.

I dint believe in dispensationalism. Arbitrary divisions of time/place/culture etc are artificial in every way.

There is nothing arbitrary about anything God does.

“And now, comprehend the meaning of this verse: “The whole earth shall on the Resurrection Day be but His handful, and in His right hand shall the heavens be folded together……

In like manner, reflect how the elevated heavens of the Dispensations of the past have, in the right hand of power, been folded together, how the heavens of divine Revelation have been raised by the command of God, and been adorned by the sun, the moon, and stars of His wondrous commandments.” The Kitáb-i-Íqán, pp. 48-49

 

[dwb001]

Who is that?

Who made everything? God. Jesus.

If people want to live in the past that's their choice. i choose to live in the present. The past is gone.

No responsibility. Must be nice to be irresponsible.

There is nothing arbitrary about anything God does.

“And now, comprehend the meaning of this verse: “The whole earth shall on the Resurrection Day be but His handful, and in His right hand shall the heavens be folded together……

In like manner, reflect how the elevated heavens of the Dispensations of the past have, in the right hand of power, been folded together, how the heavens of divine Revelation have been raised by the command of God, and been adorned by the sun, the moon, and stars of His wondrous commandments.” The Kitáb-i-Íqán, pp. 48-49

Verses from a non Biblical source in a Biblical discussion forum. Your verse is so much fluff on the wind.

Try to stick to references that your audience may agree with...

 

[YoursTrue]

I don't believe that Jesus ever taught things He didn't see. Others called them parables. Jesus never said "and now I will tell you a story..."

Just curious--do you use the King James Bible as your primary source for Bible reading? Sorry if I didn't read all of your posts. Thank you.

 

[dwb001]

Just curious--do you use the King James Bible as your primary source for Bible reading? Sorry if I didn't read all of your posts. Thank you.

No. For Bible reading I will use almost every version and compare. If there is a question I go to the original language.

As for other things I am a Asimov fan and a Pratchett fan.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

Verses from a non Biblical source in a Biblical discussion forum. Your verse is so much fluff on the wind.

Try to stick to references that your audience may agree with...

To quote the staff member, @JustGeorge.

A person is free to give either their opinion on the Bible(if relevant to the thread) or their thoughts on death/the afterlife(if relevant to the thread), so long as it is presented as personal worldview and not concrete fact, in this forum.

 

[YoursTrue]

No. For Bible reading I will use almost every version and compare. If there is a question I go to the original language.

Sometimes I do the same when I'm researching, thank you for your answer.

 

[YoursTrue]

To quote the staff member, @JustGeorge.

Now you (and @JustGeorge) got me wondering -- what's a personal worldview?

 

[YoursTrue]

No. For Bible reading I will use almost every version and compare. If there is a question I go to the original language.

As for other things I am a Asimov fan and a Pratchett fan.

I met Dr. Asimov briefly years ago when working. He is an interesting person. OK, was an interesting person.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

Does it? Which historical account?

A lot of Christians believe that the Bible is accurate because it includes actual places that exist today. They will use this as one of their justifications for believing that the Bible was divinely inspired by God. However, Greek mythology predates the Bible and contains references to factual places in Greece as well as references to multiple gods and goddesses. Like the Bible, which cites several factual places, Greek mythology cites several factual locations in Greece, including Athens, Crete, Delphi, Thebes, and Mount Olympus. But I've never met a Christian who believes Zeus, Hera, Ares, and Athena (as well as the other gods and goddesses) are real deities, despite the fact that there are references to actual sites in Greece that they could visit today, just as there are actual sites referenced in the Bible that they could visit today. I've met Christians who tried to use archaeological discoveries of biblical locations to claim that the Bible is true, but the same can be done with Greek mythology. Do archaeological discoveries prove that Greek mythology is true as well?

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[YoursTrue]

I am well-versed in the Bible and ancient history, and in my opinion (based on my research), the Bible is not a reliable source of information and truth.

That is, of course, your opinion, and I realize it is the opinion of many others. That does not mean that it's true, does it? And yes, history can get a bit confusing as we study it. Things are left out or -- could be -- inserted or written that clearly are not true. I'd sooner trust the Bible than contrary opinions to it, but yes, that is my opinion.

 

[Trailblazer]

Who made everything? God. Jesus.

God made everything. Jesus did not make anything.

No responsibility. Must be nice to be irresponsible.

I am very responsible but I am not responsible for anything that happened in the past, or responsible to know what happened in the past. If people enjoy studying history that is their choice, but it is not of much interest to me because there is too much going on in the present that requires my attention.

Verses from a non Biblical source in a Biblical discussion forum. Your verse is so much fluff on the wind.

There is no fluff in it. It was written by a Messenger of God. Nothing He wrote is fluff, unlike the Bible, which is a lot of fluff.
The fluff to substance ratio in the Bible is about 80:20.

Try to stick to references that your audience may agree with...

I don't care if anyone agrees with me. When I need to pull up non-biblical sources to make my point I will.

 

[Trailblazer]

Now you (and @JustGeorge) got me wondering -- what's a personal worldview?

I would consider a religious belief one adheres to to be a personal worldview.

 

[JustGeorge]

Now you (and @JustGeorge) got me wondering -- what's a personal worldview?

However you see the world.

 

[YoursTrue]

No. For Bible reading I will use almost every version and headcompare. If there is a question I go to the original language.

Very good. I sometimes do the same. I did a little research on Luke 16 with the story about the rich man and Lazarus. I looked at various translations at www.bible.cc and learned something I never really paid too much attention to before. At the top of the chapter in many of the translations there is the heading before verse 1 about parable. But I'm wondering, is that in the text? Seems not so, because not every Bible, including that of the King James Bible has the word parable heading up the scriptures. I'll just stop there for the moment. I figure therefore that the description in many translations saying "parable" before the account is inserted.

 

[YoursTrue]

However you see the world.

So if I say that I think someone is right or wrong about their "worldview," that's my worldview, right? According to whoever is defining the phrase. P.S. only slightly kidding...

 

[JustGeorge]

So if I say that I think someone is right or wrong about their "worldview," that's my worldview, right? According to whoever is defining the phrase. P.S. only slightly kidding...

Yes, that would be your worldview.

 

[YoursTrue]

Yes, that would be your worldview.

ok not that I understand it, but -- it's ok for whoever it's ok for. End of discussion and hopefully back to parable in the Bible.