Where is the outrage over Nun beachwear?

[George-ananda]

Where is the outrage over Nun beachwear?

Because there shouldn't be any outrage over Nun beachwear in a free society. I do not understand the outrage over the Burqinis either.

The OP seems to be anti-western and wants to think there is unanimous outrage over the Burqinis.

The banning of the Burqa and such seems to be a primarily French thing. I have read the posts so far and have not seen anyone supporting the ban on Burqas and Burqinis. I will be interested to hear from anyone supportive of such bans.

 

[Flankerl]

Italy is not France and vice versa.

Learn the difference, it could save your life.

 

[Deidre]

You never read about outrage of ANY kind over what men are wearing. It's as though no matter what a woman wears, she's always somehow in the wrong.

 

[Oculus]

Completely ridiculous attire, which defeats the purpose of going to the beach.

 

[SomeRandom]

Internet communication such as communication on forums and email or communication by text messages and so on, is not face to face.

Text communication by it's very nature is cold, though.
It is really hard to convey certain human things like sarcasm, jokingly telling someone off or other key contexts to ones message that would otherwise be conveyed through body language, facial expressions or inflection of speech. You actively have to put it in writing exactly what emotions you wish to put across. Otherwise your message is taken at face value and interpreted literally. Which can cause problems. Like with me for example. I tend to have a very dark sense of humour and like many Aussies I view vulgarity as just a bit of harmless ribbing. That can often fail to come across in my messages because there is no real expressions from me in text.

When speaking to someone face to face, if their face is covered, like a burqa or even a helmet, it is rather difficult to have a smooth conversation. If their face isn't covered it becomes much easier.

 

[Kuzcotopia]

Completely ridiculous attire, which defeats the purpose of going to the beach.

Well. . . Another 20 years of global warming and unchecked carbon emissions and we'll all be wearing those to the beach.

 

[Politesse]

I find that demanding the right to legislate how women dress somewhat takes the fire out of the argument that women shouldn't be forced to wear things. You can't make her wear more than she's comfortable with, but you get to strip her whenever you want? And that's supposedly the anti-sexist position?

Everyone who makes an argument against the burqa should be forced to bare something they aren't comfortable showing in public. And then subjected to the vicious, racist bile that veiled women put up with everyday.

 

[David1967]

The ugly hypocrisy of West is exposed by the West themselves.


This page is not owned by any muslim.




Where’s the Outrage Over Nun Beachwear?
BARBIE LATZA NADEAU
08.21.16 6:15 AM ET
SABAUDIA, Italy — Go to any public beach in Italy and chances are you’ll eventually see a woman wearing a veil and long skirt. But she likely won’t be a Muslim in a version of the controversial burqini. She will almost certainly be a Catholic nun in her summer habit either watching children in her care or, God forbid, just enjoying some sun, which is considered a human right here in Italy, where the sea defines the majority of the borders.


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/08/21/where-s-the-outrage-over-nun-beachwear.html

You make a good point. I have no problem with a woman who decides to wear modest swimwear at the beach whether Christian, Muslim or whatever. I don't understand why anyone would give them a bad time about it.

 

[David1967]

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You have the right to your opinion. Personally I
respect a woman who has a little modesty. Besides the fact. What harm does it do?

 

[Debater Slayer]

You never read about outrage of ANY kind over what men are wearing. It's as though no matter what a woman wears, she's always somehow in the wrong.

This. Times a thousand.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

You never read about outrage of ANY kind over what men are wearing. It's as though no matter what a woman wears, she's always somehow in the wrong.

Except in this case it's more the misogynistic & ****-shaming cultures these women have more often than not grown up in which is at fault than the woman herself.

 

[psychoslice]

You never read about outrage of ANY kind over what men are wearing. It's as though no matter what a woman wears, she's always somehow in the wrong.

This is nothing to do with women, its hiding your face, just as its the law not to wear a full face helmet in a bank, be that man or women.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

This is nothing to do with women, its hiding your face, just as its the law not to wear a full face helmet in a bank, be that man or women.

Burkinis don't cover the face so that doesn't apply here.

 

[Shia Islam]

Nuns are expected to have taken vows that they could have chosen not to take.

It is not a very similar situation to that of an entire community that disapproves of women showing a bit of skin.

Faced by the terrorists some people in the west seem to have lost their temper and became unable to take the right decisions..

1. Some people in the west became unable to see why people are attracted to Islam...
Islam is one thing and terrorism is another..

2. There is always this assumption that women are forced to cover their body and to dress modesty...
You need to keep in mind that the percentage of women converting to Islam is much higher than the percentage of men..

Women are very attracted to the fact that Islam made the legal marriage is the only way for the two genders to live together as a family..

Many men, if they have the option will choose to enjoy having their ladies without being attached with the responsibilities of marriage..That is why marriage rate in in decline in the west..

Women prefer to keep their bodies for their husbands...They don't like to be exploited by the society..
The Society in the west is pushing women to exploit themselves in the night clubs, beaches etc..

Why assuming that women are forced to cover their bodies...
If they want to show their bodies, they will have their ways...
If they were forced to cover their bodies, they will act differently..

3. let us suppose that some women are forced to cover their bodies...The solution is not by forcing all the women going to the beaches to show their bodies..

 

[LuisDantas]

Faced by the terrorists some people in the west seem to have lost their temper and became unable to take the right decisions..

While some Muslims seem to never have been able to, if the continued reluctance to discredit Hezbollah, Hamas, Al-Qaeda and Boko Haram is any indication.

1. Some people in the west became unable to see why people are attracted to Islam...

The promises of having reliable answers, of unity against adversity, of a stable and commited society, and of God's ultimate reward for faithfulness are some of the reasons that I see.

Islam is one thing and terrorism is another..

Which is why we are not in open war against Islam itself.

The question is how come there is such a strong correlation between the two, and how better to address the issue.

Frankly, Muslims could cooperate more in that regard. But then again, you have faith directives not to take non-Muslims as "protectors and guardians" and not to oppose other Muslims if you can help it, isn't that true?

Some religion of peace.

2. There is always this assumption that women are forced to cover their body and to dress modesty...

Are you claiming that they are not? What would happen to a Muslimah that decided to wear a bikini, then?

You need to keep in mind that the percentage of women converting to Islam is much higher than the percentage of men..

You realize that you are not even attempting to address my observation?

Do you have any comments that are not attempts at obfuscation?

Women are very attracted to the fact that Islam made the legal marriage is the only way for the two genders to live together as a family..

Marriage is not a Islamic creation, nor its exclusivity. I am sure you know that. Maybe you mean to say that Islam does not accept people who do not intend to have a traditional marriage?

Some solution. Harmony through the relentless persecution of the divergents...

Many men, if they have the option will choose to enjoy having their ladies without being attached with the responsibilities of marriage..That is why marriage rate in in decline in the west..

The issue is far more complex than you seem to acknowledge. In any case, you don't seem to have any solutions to offer either. There is a vague promise that repressing people so that they feel no choice but to marry would be a solution, but really...

Women prefer to keep their bodies for their husbands...They don't like to be exploited by the society..
The Society in the west is pushing women to exploit themselves in the night clubs, beaches etc..

Oh, that evil, evil Western Society! Why won't they just behead their troublemakers as good people are expected to do? Or at least scare them with the possibility?

Why assuming that women are forced to cover their bodies...
If they want to show their bodies, they will have their ways...
If they were forced to cover their bodies, they will act differently..

Tell me how and why. I won't believe you otherwise, rest assured.

3. let us suppose that some women are forced to cover their bodies...The solution is not by forcing all the women going to the beaches to show their bodies..

Which is why that is not done.

 

[Politesse]

Except in this case it's more the misogynistic & ****-shaming cultures these women have more often than not grown up in which is at fault than the woman herself.

Because Western beachware is in no way condescending to women?

 

[Sakeenah]

The burkini ban is ridiculous, they are forcing women to not wear the burkini because there are women who are forced to cover..makes sense.

Does this mean they're going to ban the scuba diving wetsuits next or maybe long sleeves shirts and trousers

 

[Sakeenah]

Because they look retarded?

So people should give them a difficult time because you think they look retarded?

Do you know how stupid and superficial that sounds?

 

[Oculus]

Because Western beachware is in no way condescending to women?

Western women have a choice as to what they wear. They choose to objectify themselves, encouraging the patriarchy and, in some instances, the misogyny.

The irony is deafening.

 

[Oculus]

So people should give them a difficult time because you think they look retarded?

Do you know how stupid and superficial that sounds?

Do you really think I care?

Don't delude yourself.