Lol. Those headpieces are called cornettes. I don't see anyone wearing those anymore. I think they've gone out of style.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornette
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Where is the outrage over Nun beachwear?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornette
Skwim
Veteran Member
Curious as to why they all have short, mannish hairdos, and almost all wear lapeled jackets. Think they might have a slight testosterone imbalance?Nuns and religious sisters aren't necessarily the same things in Catholicism: http://anunslife.org/resources/sister-or-nun
The ones you see dressed like this are religious sisters who are usually involved in charity work in the community:
During Vatican II, they relaxed some of the dress requirements for religious sisters. But nuns will wear the habit, just like monks will wear the habit (or robes) of their orders.
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No, but you are being quite rude. Seriously, what a dumb thing to say. You should delete this stupid post.
psychoslice
Veteran Member
Probably it caused too much problems with the control tower lol.
Skwim
Veteran Member
"Rude"? "Dumb"?? "Stupid"??? Why? Just what is wrong with my observation and question? You sound like I just called your mother a __________fill in whatever you like______________ . Or maybe I'm somehow hitting too close to home. Your extreme reaction here almost cries "personal insult." Is it?
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Why do you care what they look like? Are you disappointed that they're not buxom 20 year olds in string bikinis?
Oh, and I'm a female to male transsexual so I do get rather annoyed when women who don't fit our society's sexist standards of how a woman "should" look have their femininity denigrated or questioned. I know what it's like to deal with that bs.
MD
qualiaphile
These women do far more for their community than your pervy *** could ever dream of
Servant_of_the_One1
Well-Known Member
Ofcourse NUNS are volunteers of religion and muslim women are oppressed!
How silly of me!
The Burkinis must also be isis militants hiding bombs!
I should have known that!
How silly of me!
The Burkinis must also be isis militants hiding bombs!
I should have known that!
Skwim
Veteran Member
Oh no, before I answer your question you have to answer mine.
"Rude"? "Dumb"?? "Stupid"??? Why? Just what is wrong with my observation and question?
If you note I never said or implied any "should." About the only thing one could infer from my comment is that I thought they might be lesbians. I've heard that a high percentage of nuns are lesbians, and what I found curious is that all of the religious sisters pictured, 100%, appeared to be so. Now if this is how all religious sisters must dress regardless of their sexual orientation, so be it.
Oh yes, a couple of buxom 20 year-olds in string bikinis wouldn't have hurt.
"Pervy ***" Tee Hee. Obviously you find homosexuality dirty or threatening, or at least a perversion. Something you'd only wish on your worst enemy. I do not. I find it as natural and no less acceptable than being left-handed.
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Nuns are volunteers.
It is really not very clear what you mean to say here. Are you claiming that Muslimahs are never pressured into wearing full clothing at the beach, perhaps?
Now you are being silly.
Firstly I have to admit that your answers were more objective than I expected!!
Now let us rephrase the above question as follows:
What is the percentage of Muslim women who are forced to cover their bodies?
I don't know whether some studies have be done to reveal the truth about this issue...
But one can try to get a near answer by trying to understand Islam itself and the human relations within the families..
What is known, is that studies show that Muslims in general are observing the rituals of their religion more than the followers of most of most of the other Abrahamic religions, if not all..
Just have a look at how the mosques are full and many churches are empty!
This is one point that lead us to think that Muslim women is doing what they believe in...
We may think of other evidences...
Or we may try to search for studies in this regard..
Thanks. One of the most reliable traits of the Muslims that I have met online is that they are utterly sincere.
Perhaps. But I very much doubt it, having myself been raised among people who did not want to hear whether I believed according to their expectations.
It would not surprise me if you were literally unaware of how difficult it can be to raise a voice against the often passionate expectations of those who believe to be speaking on God's behalf.
By all means, we should.
MD
qualiaphile
Anyone who knows me on this forum will know that despite my political and economic views, I see homosexuality as normal and natural as heterosexuality.
You on the other hand have a long history of posts that focus solely on sexuality and discuss sexual topics, and I don't think you're doing it from an academic perspective.
You're also putting words in my mouth and trying to assign qualities to me that aren't true, which speaks a lot more about your character than anything else.
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
Oddly, I think she look ridiculous, but that's just me. If women wish to look profoundly stupid let them be.
I find the look of this garment very aesthetically pleasing. Then, I am fond of modest and functional clothing. However, modest garments should not be forced on those who do not desire to wear them.
Skwim
Veteran Member
To tell the truth I never bothered to make a note of it. Never cared I guess.
Actually, I have a long history of focusing on quite a few topics, sexuality being only one of them.* But it is interesting that you've made note of this one. Hmmmmmm.
Reminds me of the old Rorschah ink blot joke.A man goes to a Psychologist and says, "Doc I got a real problem, I can't stop thinking about sex."
The Psychologist says, "Well let's see what we can find out", and pulls out his Rorschach ink blots. "What is this a picture of?" he asks.
The man looks at the picture and states, "Why that's a man and a woman on a bed making love."
The Psychologist says, "very interesting," and shows the next ink blot. "And what is this a picture of?"
The man looks and turns it in different directions and says, "That's also a man and a woman on a bed making love."
The Psychologists tries again with the third ink blot, and asks the same question, "What is this a picture of?"
The patient looks at it long and hard and replies, "That's a man and a woman on a bed making love."
The Psychologist states, "Well, yes, you do seem to be obsessed with sex."
"Me!?" demands the patient. "You're the one who keeps showing me the dirty pictures!"
The Psychologist says, "Well let's see what we can find out", and pulls out his Rorschach ink blots. "What is this a picture of?" he asks.
The man looks at the picture and states, "Why that's a man and a woman on a bed making love."
The Psychologist says, "very interesting," and shows the next ink blot. "And what is this a picture of?"
The man looks and turns it in different directions and says, "That's also a man and a woman on a bed making love."
The Psychologists tries again with the third ink blot, and asks the same question, "What is this a picture of?"
The patient looks at it long and hard and replies, "That's a man and a woman on a bed making love."
The Psychologist states, "Well, yes, you do seem to be obsessed with sex."
"Me!?" demands the patient. "You're the one who keeps showing me the dirty pictures!"
Let's see, you tell me I have "pervy ***," and that I put words in your mouth. Evidently, drawing a conclusion from your scatological ( I assume) description of my post about your character is far worse than the scatological description itself. So, if you don't find homosexuality dirty, threatening, at least a perversion, or something you'd only wish on your worst enemy, EXACTLY what were you referring to by the term "pervy ***" if it wasn't referencing your distaste for homosexuality?
* Among others: Christian Apologetics, Religious News, Creationism v Evolution , Freewill v Determinism, Agnosticism, Philosophy, Current Events, Science, and Lately Donald Trump.
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Sakeenah
Well-Known Member
Oddly, I think your comment is ridiculous,but that's just me.If certain members wish to sound profoundly stupid let them be.
Sakeenah
Well-Known Member
There is no us (westerners) vs them these aren't moroccan citizens they are French citizens who are part of French society.
According to France's secularism the state is neutral but the people have the right to freely express their religious views.
Article 9 of the European Convention on Human Rights is quite clear about religious freedom: “Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief, in worship, teaching, practice and observance.”
Based on this women are free to wear a burkini or a bikini.
Isn't the mayor of Cannes doing what you are accusing others of comprimising the freedom of muslim women.
He suggests that Muslim women who choose to wear headscarves and cover their bodies are symbols of extremist groups such as the Islamic State, and therefore enemies of France.
This is an oversimplification,terrorism specialists haven't identified a link between wearing modest clothing and terrorism.
This ban is counterproductive and it's exactly what groups like IS wants.
They want young muslims to feel excluded,stigmatised and they will probably use this in their next recruitment video.
Oculus
J A F O
In Saudi Arabia? In Iraq? In Iran? In Pakistan? In Afghanistan?
Do you really think that there aren't nuns who were pushed into it by their society or culture?
Most nuns are volunteers.
A question to anyone here who supports banning burqinis on the assumption that the women who wear them are coerced into it:
So you think that these women are being victimized; why, then, would you help to further wall these women off from society? If you're sure that she's being forced to wear the burqini, do you think she's safer on a beach in a burqini where she can interact with people or at home out of public view with no way to get out of her situation?