WHERE IS THE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS GOD'S 4th COMMANDMENT IS ABOLISHED?

[IndigoChild5559]

No I have said no such thing accept to make reference to what the Protestant and Hebrew bible teaches as Gods 4th commandment as being the seventh day Sabbath of Gods 10 commandments.

Exactly, which is something that does not exist, and which you have never provided evidence of (since it does not exist.) Sorry, but the moment you began lying again, I had no further desire to read anything you read, and simply deleted it all. You are a dishonest poster.

 

[3rdAngel]

No I have said no such thing accept to make reference to what the Protestant and Hebrew bible teaches as Gods 4th commandment as being the seventh day Sabbath of Gods 10 commandments. Then asked the question in the OP that us asking where is the scripture that says Gods seventh day Sabbath of the 10 commandments has been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a holy day of rest in honor of the resurrection of Jesus? You have been the one trying to make the OP about anything else to what is being asked in it.

Full context to my post you left out added back in. Your response here.

Exactly, which is something that does not exist, and which you have never provided evidence of (since it does not exist.) Sorry, but the moment you began lying again, I had no further desire to read anything you read, and simply deleted it all. You are a dishonest poster.

Post me a link and prove I am lying to you. If you cannot why bare false witness against your brother? That is lying and sin in Gods eyes is it not (Exodus 20:16)? No need to get salty because you got caught out on your last post. Receive Gods correction and be blessed. Ignoring Gods Word does not make it disappear. The dishonesty and making excuses for sin is all your side. So I will leave that between you and God to work through. For me only Gods Words are true and we should believe and follow them (see Romans 3:4).

You take care now.

 

[3rdAngel]

So in summary after 54 pages and 1000 replies there is not a single scripture in all the bible that teaches that Gods Sabbath commandment of the 10 commandments has now been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a holy day of rest in honour of the resurrection of Jesus. Makes me think we have been taught lies at Sunday school and we are following man-made teachings and traditions that Jesus warns us about in Matthew 15:3-9. The question therefore we should be asking ourselves is, "If breaking anyone of Gods 10 commandments is sin, then are we following God and His Word or not following God and His Word?" Something to pray about.

Take Care

 

[Soapy]

So in summary after 54 pages and 1000 replies there is not a single scripture in all the bible that teaches that Gods Sabbath commandment of the 10 commandments has now been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a holy day of rest in honour of the resurrection of Jesus. Makes me think we have been taught lies at Sunday school and we are following man-made teachings and traditions that Jesus warns us about in Matthew 15:3-9. The question therefore we should be asking ourselves is, "If breaking anyone of Gods 10 commandments is sin, then are we following God and His Word or not following God and His Word?" Something to pray about.

Take Care

The question was purposely designed to fail.

There is no scriptures that claims an abolishment of the Sabbath…

Sabbath IS A GOOD THING whether anyone is Jewish, Christian, Muslim… or whatever.

‘Sabbath’ means the setting aside of a day in a seven-day week (typically, the twenty four hour period Friday night to Saturday night, for corporate worship).

In a single society, such as that of the Israelites and then the Jews, it was mandatory that the whole nation set aside one single specific day for this event. But as the world of single true deity (‘God’: YAHWEH) grew, the many peoples cannot all set aside the one single day. There is a great need for certain groups of people who, though believers, cannot set aside their work on a single specific day.

These would set aside another day on which to SABBATH.

Notice that Jesus Christ taught that, though there was a time when ‘the all’ would worship (which included ‘Sabbathing‘) on the great mountain as the Samaritans wrongly did, or in Jerusalem as the Jews did, THERE IS COMING A TIME WHEN NEITHER PHYSICAL PLACES ARE THE TRUE PLACE OF WORSHIP.

Where is the true place of worship? Where is the true place to Sabbath?

The true place to worship and Sabbath is IN SPIRIT AND IN TRUTH!!!

What does this mean?

It means that WHERE EVER YOU SABBATH, WHERE EVER YOU WORSHIP, God has deemed it acceptable by EACH INDIVIDUAL to do so as the situation finds them.

Do not judge Bible Hub your comfy Monday to Friday job, do not judge by your cosy fitting role that allows you to Sabbath on a Saturday… the global world is a round the clock twenty four hour seven day a week conglomerate. We are not all Sunday… Monday to Friday … workers nor societies.

Should a nurse stop their weekly work on Friday night - stop nursing?

Here’s a dilemma, then!! Seven days a week because it’s good to do nursing on a sabbath day… So, what if that nurse Sabbaths and worships God on a different day because the DAY OF REST given to them is, say, Wednesday?

Are they not worshipping in Spirit and Sabbathing… not working seven days a week - resting from their WEEKLY work while WORSHIPPING GOD IN SPIRIT AND TRUTH.

It’s not corporate, I hear you say…. God is not after CORPORATE WORSHIP… God is after INDIVIDUAL worship even if it is a collective in a congregational setting.

Is corporate prayer not a rote worship? Is it not like reciting the “Lord’s Prayer” - it’s done without thought and presence…. How many people know exactly WHAT they are saying and MEANING when they sing… when they read… when they speak … corporate prayers and songs?

But PERSONAL PRAYER…. It’s YOU with GOD… You… Petitioning, Pleading, Pledging, Confessing … in private TO GOD: ‘Do not do as they do …loudly, publicly, desiring for others to hear how ‘pious’ you are….!! But find a quiet place or do so at home in privacy!’

So, SABBATH is not abolished - no one ever really claims so - What is happening is that THERE IS NO ABSOLUTE that SABBATH needs to be FRIDAY NIGHT TO SATURDAY NIGHT
but ‘A day of rest in which we glorify God, do good, and REST from our normal work’ especially if that work was concerned with purely personal and or monetary gain.

Every one needs a Sabbath day irrespective of personal ethics…. No one should work seven days a week. Is that Sabbath day to rest, worship God, and do good!!

 

[Muffled]

And what do you mean by that? Are you saying that Jesus is a book?

I believe I am saying that when Jesus speaks, God is speaking.

 

[Audie]

Hey guys

Just wondering where is the scripture that says Gods 4th commandment seventh day Sabbath has been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a holy day of rest in honor of the resurrection of Jesus?

May God bless you as you seek to know Him through His Word.

That's a q for dispensationalists.

 

[Muffled]

So basically, NO, you do NOT keep the Law.

I obey Jesus who is God in the flesh. People who worship the law have a different god from the one I worship I worship the living God not one in a dead book.

 

[Muffled]

That's a q for dispensationalists.

I believe there are dispensations. One is not able to sacrifice in the Temple because it no longer exists. We no longer rest on Saturday because God wishes us to honor Jesus. The Sabbath of old is still observed by those who wish to dishonor Jesus and thereby God.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I believe I am saying that when Jesus speaks, God is speaking.

Again, so what? You can believe anything that you want. But if you do so you are probably wrong.

 

[Audie]

I believe there are dispensations. One is not able to sacrifice in the Temple because it no longer exists. We no longer rest on Saturday because God wishes us to honor Jesus. The Sabbath of old is still observed by those who wish to dishonor Jesus and thereby God.

So there you go.

"GOD" says, " not a jot or tittle"

Man says: "dispense with as ye will, for
lo, the law suiteth us not"

 

[Link]

The question was purposely designed to fail.

There is no scriptures that claims an abolishment of the Sabbath…

Sabbath IS A GOOD THING whether anyone is Jewish, Christian, Muslim… or whatever.

‘Sabbath’ means the setting aside of a day in a seven-day week (typically, the twenty four hour period Friday night to Saturday night, for corporate worship).

In a single society, such as that of the Israelites and then the Jews, it was mandatory that the whole nation set aside one single specific day for this event. But as the world of single true deity (‘God’: YAHWEH) grew, the many peoples cannot all set aside the one single day. There is a great need for certain groups of people who, though believers, cannot set aside their work on a single specific day.

These would set aside another day on which to SABBATH.

Notice that Jesus Christ taught that, though there was a time when ‘the all’ would worship (which included ‘Sabbathing‘) on the great mountain as the Samaritans wrongly did, or in Jerusalem as the Jews did, THERE IS COMING A TIME WHEN NEITHER PHYSICAL PLACES ARE THE TRUE PLACE OF WORSHIP.

Where is the true place of worship? Where is the true place to Sabbath?

The true place to worship and Sabbath is IN SPIRIT AND IN TRUTH!!!

What does this mean?

It means that WHERE EVER YOU SABBATH, WHERE EVER YOU WORSHIP, God has deemed it acceptable by EACH INDIVIDUAL to do so as the situation finds them.

Do not judge Bible Hub your comfy Monday to Friday job, do not judge by your cosy fitting role that allows you to Sabbath on a Saturday… the global world is a round the clock twenty four hour seven day a week conglomerate. We are not all Sunday… Monday to Friday … workers nor societies.

Should a nurse stop their weekly work on Friday night - stop nursing?

Here’s a dilemma, then!! Seven days a week because it’s good to do nursing on a sabbath day… So, what if that nurse Sabbaths and worships God on a different day because the DAY OF REST given to them is, say, Wednesday?

Are they not worshipping in Spirit and Sabbathing… not working seven days a week - resting from their WEEKLY work while WORSHIPPING GOD IN SPIRIT AND TRUTH.

It’s not corporate, I hear you say…. God is not after CORPORATE WORSHIP… God is after INDIVIDUAL worship even if it is a collective in a congregational setting.

Is corporate prayer not a rote worship? Is it not like reciting the “Lord’s Prayer” - it’s done without thought and presence…. How many people know exactly WHAT they are saying and MEANING when they sing… when they read… when they speak … corporate prayers and songs?

But PERSONAL PRAYER…. It’s YOU with GOD… You… Petitioning, Pleading, Pledging, Confessing … in private TO GOD: ‘Do not do as they do …loudly, publicly, desiring for others to hear how ‘pious’ you are….!! But find a quiet place or do so at home in privacy!’

So, SABBATH is not abolished - no one ever really claims so - What is happening is that THERE IS NO ABSOLUTE that SABBATH needs to be FRIDAY NIGHT TO SATURDAY NIGHT
but ‘A day of rest in which we glorify God, do good, and REST from our normal work’ especially if that work was concerned with purely personal and or monetary gain.

Every one needs a Sabbath day irrespective of personal ethics…. No one should work seven days a week. Is that Sabbath day to rest, worship God, and do good!!

You are smart.

 

[Audie]

I obey Jesus who is God in the flesh. People who worship the law have a different god from the one I worship I worship the living God not one in a dead book.

" in the flesh"

So like actual liver, blood, lower intestine,
hair thar needs to be trimmed.

Seriously?

 

[Subduction Zone]

" in the flesh"

So like actual liver, blood, lower intestine,
hair thar needs to be trimmed.

Seriously?

Yup. Burps, farts, the whole shebang.

 

[Audie]

Yup. Burps, farts, the whole shebang.

All I want you to do
Is tell me that it isn't true

 

[Subduction Zone]

All I want you to do
Is tell me that it isn't true

I thought that I did that What is a bit ironic is that Paul, who I know that you absolutely love at least has the good sense to never claim a bodily resurrection. All of his sightings were "visions" AKA hallucinations. When I challenge other Christians to find him claiming a bodily resurrection they cannot seem to do so. They think that a general verse stating a belief in a resurrected Jesus somehow means that it had to be bodily, ignoring that goes against Paul's own claimed experiences.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

I obey Jesus who is God in the flesh. People who worship the law have a different god from the one I worship I worship the living God not one in a dead book.

Jesus taught to keep the Law, down to the last brushstroke. Yet you do NOT follow the Law.

Matthew 5:18
For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not one letter, not one stroke of a letter, will pass from the law until all is accomplished.

Have heaven and earth passed away? No.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Every one needs a Sabbath day irrespective of personal ethics…. No one should work seven days a week. Is that Sabbath day to rest, worship God, and do good!!

We have learned that human beings are healthier and more productive when they have time off. In fact, there are people right now who say we are at our most productive if we have a four day work week.

But I would not call a weekend the same thing as the Sabbath. On weekends people commonly do things like mow their lawn, go do the shopping, etc., which are not allowed on the Sabbath.

 

[Soapy]

We have learned that human beings are healthier and more productive when they have time off. In fact, there are people right now who say we are at our most productive if we have a four day work week.

But I would not call a weekend the same thing as the Sabbath. On weekends people commonly do things like mow their lawn, go do the shopping, etc., which are not allowed on the Sabbath.

The secular world puts spiritual matters lower than other matters.

If I write a response with spiritual matters in mind, it must he read that way. I don’t think I was setting secular matters as the purpose of Sabbath day activities.

We must also, though, remember that we can do secular work on the Sabbath. There is no restriction on the sabbath day to doing secular work - the guidance, for guidance it is, is that we keep the day holy. It is not UNHOLY to ‘Mow the lawn’!!!

We could, for instance, wash the car in preparation for an important meeting. Is that unholy?…. When else could that be done if it is required the day after the Sabbath?

God did not set aside a day of rest and worship to be a stranglehold on us. That’s what Jesus meant when he told the people; ‘The Sabbath was made for [the benefit of] man - not man for the Sabbath!’.

God simply ask that we keep it holy by using it to DO GOOD and WORSHIP GOD… it doesn’t mean ‘All day’ if there are ‘not unholy things’ we need to do that we cannot get done at another time.

 

[3rdAngel]

That's a q for dispensationalists.

Why would that be? Its a question for anyone professing to Christianity. We cannot claim to be Christian if we break anyone of Gods 10 commandments. That is the very definition of what sin is according to James 2:10-11; compare 1 John 3:4; 1 John 2:3-4; Matthew 7:21-23; John 3:36; Revelation 12:17; Revelation 14:12; Revelation 22:14; Proverbs 28:13; Matthew 5:17-21 etc... etc. Its a question for all of Christianity as 99% break Gods Sabbath commandment (Exodus 20:8-11) and there is not a single scripture in all the bible that teaches anywhere that Gods seventh day Sabbath commandment has been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a holy day of rest in honor of the resurrection of Jesus. This is simply a man-made teaching and tradition promoted by the Roman Catholic Church that is unsupported by the scriptures that the whole world of Christianity follows (accept for a few). This is why no one has been able to answer the question of this OP.

Take care.

 

[Audie]

Why would that be? Its a question for anyone professing to Christianity. We cannot claim to be Christian if we break anyone of Gods 10 commandments. That is the very definition of what sin is according to James 2:10-11; compare 1 John 3:4; 1 John 2:3-4; Matthew 7:21-23; John 3:36; Revelation 12:17; Revelation 14:12; Revelation 22:14; Proverbs 28:13; Matthew 5:17-21 etc... etc. Its a question for all of Christianity as 99% break Gods Sabbath commandment (Exodus 20:8-11) and there is not a single scripture in all the bible that teaches anywhere that Gods seventh day Sabbath commandment has been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a holy day of rest in honor of the resurrection of Jesus. This is simply a man-made teaching and tradition promoted by the Roman Catholic Church that is unsupported by the scriptures that the whole world of Christianity follows (accept for a few). This is why no one has been able to answer the question of this OP.

Take care.

Whatevs