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Which political party actually acts like Nazis? Trump Jr says it's the Democrats.

tytlyf

Not Religious
The best example you can give of a Democratic Nazi is someone who is currently a Republican and has spent much more time as a Republican than as a Democrat?
You'll also notice it is conservatives who want the confederate statues to stay put. Why would right wingers support confederate statues of the left wing demokkkrat party?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
How anyone can think the confederate south was left wing is beyond comprehension
What I find Beyond Comprehension is why Democrats kept the name Democrat if the original Democrats were racist in origin.

That's absolutely crazy. You would think they wouldn't even want to have the name Democrat associated with them because of its alleged racist origins. Why do you suppose that is?
 

Falvlun

Earthbending Lemur
Premium Member
What I find Beyond Comprehension is why Democrats kept the name Democrat if the original Democrats were racist in origin.

That's absolutely crazy. You would think they wouldn't even want to have the name Democrat associated with them because of its alleged racist origins. Why do you suppose that is?
The origins weren’t racist. The Southern wing of the party was always a little out of step with the rest.
 
What I find Beyond Comprehension is why Democrats kept the name Democrat if the original Democrats were racist in origin.

That's absolutely crazy. You would think they wouldn't even want to have the name Democrat associated with them because of its alleged racist origins. Why do you suppose that is?

Because if political parties had to change names every time they supported a policy that was later deemed to be morally problematic then they'd probably have run out of names by now.

It'd be like choosing usernames 'we're sorry that name is already taken, the following names are available: D3m0crats, Democrats24912, D_crats'
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
It'd be like choosing usernames 'we're sorry that name is already taken, the following names are available: D3m0crats, Democrats24912, D_crats'


David: "So, we became the Originals."
Nigel: "Right."
David: "And, uh, we had to change our name, actually."
Nigel: "Well, there was another group, in the east end, called the Originals and we had to rename ourselves."
David: "the New Originals."
Nigel: "the New Originals."
David: "Yeah."
Nigel: "And they became..."
David: "...the Regulars. They changed their name back to the Regulars. And we thought we could go back to the Originals, but what's the point?"



So, I guess the Democrats could have changed their name to the "New Democrats." Just like the New Jan Brady.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Because if political parties had to change names every time they supported a policy that was later deemed to be morally problematic then they'd probably have run out of names by now.

It'd be like choosing usernames 'we're sorry that name is already taken, the following names are available: D3m0crats, Democrats24912, D_crats'
Using Godwin's law, I wonder what if the name Nazi would have been kept.

Or keeping the Bath party name in Saddam's Iraq.

Yet here we are in the US with the name Democrat still in circulation.
 

Falvlun

Earthbending Lemur
Premium Member
Using Godwin's law, I wonder what if the name Nazi would have been kept.

Or keeping the Bath party name in Saddam's Iraq.

Yet here we are in the US with the name Democrat still in circulation.
Ah, yes. Because Democrats were just as bad as the Nazi’s and Saddam.

The Democrats had a racist Southern wing. This racist wing was expelled (or self-selected out) when the party disavowed such beliefs. The racist wing then joined a different party— the Republicans. Where they remain to this day.

But yeah. It’s the Democrats who are the bad guys.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
The best example you can give of a Democratic Nazi is someone who is currently a Republican and has spent much more time as a Republican than as a Democrat?

I asked a question, nothing more. One which you didn't answer.

Anyone can be a Republican candidate with simple paper work. The GOP does not control primaries like the DNC.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
The Democrats had a racist Southern wing. This racist wing was expelled (or self-selected out) when the party disavowed such beliefs. The racist wing then joined a different party— the Republicans. Where they remain to this day.

So wait. The Dixiecrats joined the party which proposed Civil Rights bills for decades before LBJ saw the writing on the wall as revenge.... Hilarious.....

You should look at the list of Dixiecrats in Congress which didn't leave the party......
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Ah, yes. Because Democrats were just as bad as the Nazi’s and Saddam.

The Democrats had a racist Southern wing. This racist wing was expelled (or self-selected out) when the party disavowed such beliefs. The racist wing then joined a different party— the Republicans. Where they remain to this day.

But yeah. It’s the Democrats who are the bad guys.
Oh I see.

"Heritage, not hate". Perhaps?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Oh I see.

"Heritage, not hate".

I wonder what other argument that was used with?
Looking at this from the real estate perspective....
Which party wanted to concentrate the poor in public housing,
instead of giving them housing vouchers to live among normal folk?
Which party gets the poor hooked on its support, but would take it
all away if they get even part time work?
It seems they're the ones who want to keep the poor poor.
 

Falvlun

Earthbending Lemur
Premium Member
So wait. The Dixiecrats joined the party which proposed Civil Rights bills for decades before LBJ saw the writing on the wall as revenge.... Hilarious.....

You should look at the list of Dixiecrats in Congress which didn't leave the party......
It’s fascinating how racists from 60 years ago get ya’ll riled up and how little modern day racists seem to bother you.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
It’s fascinating how racists from 60 years ago get ya’ll riled up and how little modern day racists seem to bother you.

Nope. Just pointing out the irrationality of your assertion which is just used to further a generalization against people that disagree with you politically.
 

Falvlun

Earthbending Lemur
Premium Member
Nope. Just pointing out the irrationality of your assertion which is just used to further a generalization against people that disagree with you politically.
Irrational or not, historically, that’s what happened.

And, we still see that today, with the white supremacists and neo-Nazi’s aligning themselves with the Republicans.
 

Falvlun

Earthbending Lemur
Premium Member
Evidence.

“The Democrats' dominant worldview was once social conservatism and economic liberalismwhile populism was its leading characteristic in the rural South. In 1912, Theodore Rooseveltran as a third-party candidate in the Progressive ("Bull Moose") Party, leading to a switch of political platforms between the Democratic and Republican Party and Woodrow Wilson being elected as the first fiscally progressive Democrat. Since Franklin D. Roosevelt and his New Deal coalition in the 1930s, the Democratic Party has also promoted a social liberal platform,[3] supporting social justice.[18]

And

“After Franklin D. Roosevelt's New Deal of the 1930s, the pro-business wing withered outside the South. After the racial turmoil of the 1960s, most Southern whites and many Northern Catholics moved into the Republican Party at the presidential level. The once-powerful labor union element became smaller and less supportive after the 1970s. White Evangelicals and Southerners became heavily Republican at the state and local level in the 1990s. Racial and ethnic minorities in the United States, such as Jewish Americans, Hispanic Americans, Arabic Americans and African Americans, tend to support the Democratic Party much more than they support the rival Republican Party.”
-Democratic Party (Unites States) Democratic Party (United States) - Wikipedia
And NOI aligns with Dems. They had a nice lunch and hugs with it's leader.
If true, that’s unfortunate.

But it really is wonderful how you guys revel in stuff like this, while ignoring the overt racism within the Republican Party.
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
So wait. The Dixiecrats joined the party which proposed Civil Rights bills for decades before LBJ saw the writing on the wall as revenge....
Dixiecrat - Wikipedia
Dixiecrat - Wikipedia
The Party opposed racial integration and wanted to retain Jim Crow laws and white supremacy in the face of possible federal intervention. Its members were referred to as "Dixiecrats", a portmanteau of "Dixie", referring to the Southern United States, and "Democrat".

Split from‎: ‎Democratic Party
Merged into‎: ‎Democratic Party
Political position‎: ‎Far-right
Ideology‎: ‎Jim Crow‎; ‎Racial segregation‎; ‎States' ...

Background · ‎1948 presidential election · ‎Subsequent elections
You should look at the list of Dixiecrats in Congress which didn't leave the party......
Senator Robert Byrd was a Dixiecrat. He stayed in congress and didn't switch to the republican party. The confederate south were a bunch of left wing racists! Once the democrat party started supporting civil rights, that's when the confederate racists moved to their own Dixiecrat party!

Moral of the story?
The confederate racist DemoKKKrat party = conservatives (yes, RW media has been lying to you)
 
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