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White Privilege is a Politically Motivated Lie

Stanyon

WWMRD?
We have heard about white privilege for quite a while now in our media, from political pundits etc. and rightly or wrongly I assume that this false concept is also taught in some or many colleges as fact, but is it real? I am of the mind to say that no, white privilege does not exist in the United States nor have I ever come across any white people that have ever experienced any perks of simply being white. Quite honestly, I wouldn't mind nor have any quilt if having some white privilege meant:
Free gas, tires, and oil changes for life
Free Movie passes and no entry fees for museums, sporting events, and concerts
Me and my party get to the front of the queue while waiting in line at restaurants- no lines or waiting for this YT:)
A free pass on Traffic Tickets and very light sentences for any crimes I might commit
An extra deduction on my taxes JUST FOR BEING WHITE
and these are just a few examples.
Below is an interesting and entertaining video of a small group of whites and blacks explaining white privilege, what it means to them, and how it has benefited or harmed them personally.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Quite honestly, I wouldn't mind nor have any quilt if having some white privilege meant:
Free gas, tires, and oil changes for life
Free Movie passes and no entry fees for museums, sporting events, and concerts
Me and my party get to the front of the queue while waiting in line at restaurants- no lines or waiting for this YT:)
A free pass on Traffic Tickets and very light sentences for any crimes I might commit
An extra deduction on my taxes JUST FOR BEING WHITE
and these are just a few examples.

Nice straw men! I see you have destroyed the entire concept of white privilege with the reasoning of a six year old.
 
I am of the mind to say that no, white privilege does not exist in the United States nor have I ever come across any white people that have ever experienced any perks of simply being white.

'White privilege' is not that white people get perks, it is that they avoid the discrimination that ethnic minorities can often face.

Terming the avoidance of harms as 'privilege' though is stupid as it distorts the problem and is divisive as it creates a system where people inherit guilt purely by accident of birth and non-white people are automatically 'victims' regardless of whether or not they are 'privileged' by numerous other potential metrics.

I even remember seeing a (non-ironic) article called 'straight black men are the white people of black people' which is getting a little bit absurd.

Discrimination should indeed be challenged, and those discriminated against should be empowered, but assigning collective guilt is not the most functional strategy in this regard.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I think there is a similarity to the cries of "persecution of Christianity".
Christians are privileged but can't see it; white people are privileged and can't see it.
Sometimes one's group's "privilege" doesn't benefit one.
Xians have an enormous advantage when running for governmental office.
But most Xians have no desire to ever do that.
So the extent of this privilege is being able to vote for pols sharing their faith.
I wouldn't expect them to be highly conscious of this.

Btw, when some claim they're victims because of their
religion, my eyes dang near roll out of their sockets.
 

Stanyon

WWMRD?
Nice straw men! I see you have destroyed the entire concept of white privilege with the reasoning of a six year old.

I don't typically waste much energy on false concepts but when and if I do it is to mock it, to do otherwise would be a waste of my opportunities to enjoy my white privileges.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
Sometimes one's group's "privilege" doesn't benefit one.
Xians have an enormous advantage when running for governmental office.
But most Xians have no desire to ever do that.
So the extent of this privilege is being able to vote for pols sharing their faith.
I wouldn't expect them to be highly conscious of this.

Btw, when some claim they're victims because of their
religion, my eyes dang near roll out of their sockets.
When I say privilege, I mean comparatively to others.
For example...in the UK Cof E have 20 unelected Bishops in our Parliament. So, if you are a Muslim, Jew or non-believer you have 20 less representatives.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
I don't typically waste much energy on false concepts but when and if I do it is to mock it...

I'll wait to see if you mock your own notion there's no white privilege before deciding whether you're telling the truth here about mocking false concepts.
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
We have heard about white privilege for quite a while now in our media, from political pundits etc. and rightly or wrongly I assume that this false concept is also taught in some or many colleges as fact, but is it real? I am of the mind to say that no, white privilege does not exist in the United States nor have I ever come across any white people that have ever experienced any perks of simply being white. Quite honestly, I wouldn't mind nor have any quilt if having some white privilege meant:
Free gas, tires, and oil changes for life
Free Movie passes and no entry fees for museums, sporting events, and concerts
Me and my party get to the front of the queue while waiting in line at restaurants- no lines or waiting for this YT:)
A free pass on Traffic Tickets and very light sentences for any crimes I might commit
An extra deduction on my taxes JUST FOR BEING WHITE
and these are just a few examples.
Below is an interesting and entertaining video of a small group of whites and blacks explaining white privilege, what it means to them, and how it has benefited or harmed them personally.
Are you white?
 

jonathan180iq

Well-Known Member
We have heard about white privilege for quite a while now in our media, from political pundits etc. and rightly or wrongly I assume that this false concept is also taught in some or many colleges as fact, but is it real? I am of the mind to say that no, white privilege does not exist in the United States nor have I ever come across any white people that have ever experienced any perks of simply being white. Quite honestly, I wouldn't mind nor have any quilt if having some white privilege meant:
Free gas, tires, and oil changes for life
Free Movie passes and no entry fees for museums, sporting events, and concerts
Me and my party get to the front of the queue while waiting in line at restaurants- no lines or waiting for this YT:)
A free pass on Traffic Tickets and very light sentences for any crimes I might commit
An extra deduction on my taxes JUST FOR BEING WHITE
and these are just a few examples.
Below is an interesting and entertaining video of a small group of whites and blacks explaining white privilege, what it means to them, and how it has benefited or harmed them personally.
Twenty bucks says you're a white guy.
 

Stanyon

WWMRD?
When I say privilege, I mean comparatively to others.
For example...in the UK Cof E have 20 unelected Bishops in our Parliament. So, if you are a Muslim, Jew or non-believer you have 20 less representatives.

Do you think that has anything to do with demographics?
From C.I.A. world factbook:
white 87.2%, black/African/Caribbean/black British 3%, Asian/Asian British: Indian 2.3%, Asian/Asian British: Pakistani 1.9%, mixed 2%, other 3.7% (2011 est.)
The World Factbook — Central Intelligence Agency
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
'White privilege' is not that white people get perks, it is that they avoid the discrimination that ethnic minorities can often face.

Terming the avoidance of harms as 'privilege' though is stupid as it distorts the problem and is divisive as it creates a system where people inherit guilt purely by accident of birth and non-white people are automatically 'victims' regardless of whether or not they are 'privileged' by numerous other potential metrics.

I even remember seeing a (non-ironic) article called 'straight black men are the white people of black people' which is getting a little bit absurd.

Discrimination should indeed be challenged, and those discriminated against should be empowered, but assigning collective guilt is not the most functional strategy in this regard.
But if wrongful discrimination is the problem, then they can only blame perpetrators.
The big advantage of decrying "white privilege" is that even innocent white folk are
subject to this veiled accusation of racism. Good works do not exempt one from it.

The question is....what good does it serve?
1) It could raise consciousness of us white folk, who (so we're told) just cannot understand
the black perspective, thereby inviting self-criticism, & growth beyond the plight of being white.
2) It helps those who see black folk as universal victims reinforce this world view, ie, all
blacks are victims, & all whites are perps. Of course, opinions vary about whether this is "good".

I don't know where Asians fit into this picture. A minority which is commonly perceived
as successful, even relative to whites? Perhaps this is too complex for anyone to address.
.
 

jonathan180iq

Well-Known Member
I'm going to find out when the next white privilege conference is in KCMO and I'd be willing to burn a vacation day for it, if they charge admission I will demand to get in for free citing my white privilege.
A White guy from the Midwest, no less... Figures.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
When I say privilege, I mean comparatively to others.
For example...in the UK Cof E have 20 unelected Bishops in our Parliament. So, if you are a Muslim, Jew or non-believer you have 20 less representatives.
But this ostensibly all encompassing privilege just doesn't apply to
all in the group. So to make it about the entire group is at best a
mistaken stretch because it ignores individuals & variations.
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
I'm going to find out when the next white privilege conference is in KCMO and I'd be willing to burn a vacation day for it, if they charge admission I will demand to get in for free citing my white privilege.
The fact that you are not directly answering the question points to affirm you are white. Which explains why you don't think it exists, you are a beneficiary and you have never seen the other side of the coin. Basically discrediting your entire position since it is based on anecdotes alone.
 

Stanyon

WWMRD?
A White guy from the Midwest, no less... Figures.

In case you missed it, those were white males and females from the midwest KCMO that were interviewed in the video. Answer me this, do you think it is O.K. to generalize people because of the colour of their skin, biological sex, and where they live geographically? that sounds like bigotry and racism to me.
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
In case you missed it, those were white males and females from the midwest KCMO that were interviewed in the video. Answer me this, do you think it is O.K. to generalize people because of the colour of their skin, biological sex, and where they live geographically? that sounds like bigotry and racism to me.
Still haven't answered one of the most basic yes or no questions I have seen on this forum in awhile.
 
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