WHO IS GOD'S TRUE ISRAEL IN THE NEW COVENANT?

[3rdAngel]

You did not answer my question: And who did Jesus pray to when on the cross?

God the son prayed to God the father. You did not know this either?

 

[3rdAngel]

What a pathetically arrogant and demeaning statement the above is, thus not even worthy of a response beyond this. You do not know my background and, frankly, I'd rather keep it that way.

It was an honest question sorry if you are offended. I only ask because of your post content and was wanting to help.

 

[3rdAngel]

Thats fair .. since you don't know who the Gods of Creation are from the Bible .. I would not expect you to be able to know the names of those Gods .. but, you can still help out perhaps ... Do you not have any guesses as to the identity of the God of Creation ?

What about the God of Abraham .. ? Would that God not be a Candidate El - Olium "El Supreme" .. the same Supreme one in Psalm 82 for other reference ..

but what is strange ... is that if you don't know the names of the Gods of Creation fromthe Bible .. how can you say that I am following a different God than you ? .. as you don't know the name of the God you are following - never mind know what God I Follow.

Oh thanks but maybe you have a misunderstanding. I do indeed know the God of all creation from the bible. The God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Israel. We all have the same God. He is the God of all creation. I know the name of God but he has many names, did you not know?

 

[3rdAngel]

No. Approximately 2/3 of the NT is linked to the false prophet Paul and his comrades. The NT is the field in which both the message of the "enemy"/"devil" are planted together with the "message" of the "son of man" (Mt 13:37-42) and will remain growing together until the "end of the age", which is at hand, and at which time the "tares" will be "gathered" and thrown into the "furnace of fire" (Great Tribulation). (Mt 13:24-30) The "tares", those who follow the "message" of the "enemy", would be the "many", who follow the "false prophets" of Mt 7:12-15 to "destruction". This message of the "kingdom of heaven" was given in parables so that only those with ears to hear could understand (Mt 11-14), which would preclude the "wicked"/lawless (Daniel 12:10).

I see so according to you 2/3 of all the New Testament scriptures are false teachings? I have never met someone like you. You really do need some help. You are peddling false teachings and doctrines of devils calling Gods Word of the devil is blasphemy in Gods eyes.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

It was an honest question sorry if you are offended. I only ask because of your post content and was wanting to help.

Remarks such as "You don't know the scriptures" or "Have you even read the Bible' etc etc are ad hominem attacks. They unjustly imply that the other person has not studied the scriptures, when in fact it is quite clear that they have. Their only real crime is that their interpretation disagrees with yours.

 

[3rdAngel]

Remarks such as "You don't know the scriptures" or "Have you even read the Bible' etc etc are ad hominem attacks. They unjustly imply that the other person has not studied the scriptures, when in fact it is quite clear that they have. Their only real crime is that their interpretation disagrees with yours.

Indeed you can tell by what people write if they know God and His Word or do not know him.

 

[Sargonski]

Oh thanks but maybe you have a misunderstanding. I do indeed know the God of all creation from the bible. The God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Israel. We all have the same God. He is the God of all creation. I know the name of God but he has many names, did you not know?

Look friend .. no offence but for about 10 posts now you have been avoiding providing the name of this God you claim is God of Abraham ..and the Patriarchs to Israel ... Curious why you left out Moses and the Israelites -- is that a different God .. but let us not digress.

What is the name .. or a name .. for the God of Abraham .. and do the Israelites know this God by this name if you want to do 2 questions in one go. .. I would be happy with just one name at this point .. if 2 questions are too much.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Indeed you can tell by what people write if they know God and His Word or do not know him.

Actually, what you are doing is assuming that people who agree with YOU "know God." Its ridiculous.

 

[3rdAngel]

Actually, what you are doing is assuming that people who agree with YOU "know God." Its ridiculous.

For me only Gods Word is true and we should believe and follow them. Our opinions do not really mean much in Gods eyes (Romans 3:4; Acts 5:32).

 

[Sargonski]

Indeed you can tell by what people write if they know God and His Word or do not know him.

and you are clearly one of the ones who does not know who God is .. unable to produce a name in 10 posts. Who do you figure the God of Jesus is friend .. the one Jesus refers to as "The Father" --- "my God My God .. why hast thou forsaken me"

Do you not know ?

 

[3rdAngel]

and you are clearly one of the ones who does not know who God is .. unable to produce a name in 10 posts. Who do you figure the God of Jesus is friend .. the one Jesus refers to as "The Father" --- "my God My God .. why hast thou forsaken me"

Do you not know ?

Well aren't you the funny one.... and here is me thinking all this time this applies to you...
Do you not know Jesus is God, and the father is also God?

 

[IndigoChild5559]

For me only Gods Word is true and we should believe and follow them. Our opinions do not really mean much in Gods eyes (Romans 3:4; Acts 5:32).

You don't even accept other people who also believe in the Bible but interpret it differently from you. I'm rolling my eyes.

 

[3rdAngel]

You don't even accept other people who also believe in the Bible but interpret it differently from you. I'm rolling my eyes.

Indeed. I prefer what the scripture teach and not see to make excuses and harden my heart in sin and unbelief. This is a warning from God written in Hebrews 3 and Hebrews 4.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Indeed. I prefer what the scripture teach and not see to make excuses and harden my heart in sin and unbelief. This is a warning from God written in Hebrews 3 and Hebrews 4.

We should call you POPE 3rdAngel, since you believe yourself to be infallible.

 

[3rdAngel]

We should call you POPE 3rdAngel, since you believe yourself to be infallible.

No need..... but I do know the God of the bible and His Word and believe and follow Him who calls me. He opened my blind eyes and my deaf ears and now I hear and see him. He is calling all of us, but many choose to close their eyes and ears to stay in their sins and unbelief. For me He must increase and I must decrease. I only point all to His Word because that is where you can find Him if you have faith to believe and follow Him.

 

[Sargonski]

Well aren't you the funny one.... and here is me thinking all this time this applies to you...
Do you not know Jesus is God, and the father is also God?

The "funny one" you say ha ha ha - Clearly someone was joking when they told you that the name by which Abraham knew his God was Jesus.

In addition "The Father" is an epithet not a name .. an epithet shared by many Gods ... which is why it is important to know the name friend .. so you know which "Father" you are worshiping. I suspected you did not know which God you were worshiping... thanks for confirming. Next is to figure out whether or not it is the Father of lies you have been following.

 

[2ndpillar]

I see so according to you 2/3 of all the New Testament scriptures are false teachings? I have never met someone like you. You really do need some help. You are peddling false teachings and doctrines of devils calling Gods Word of the devil is blasphemy in Gods eyes.

Yeshua called the "message" of the "devil" "lawlessness", which would be the gospel of grace/cross, the message of the false prophet Paul (Mt 13). Yeshua stated it would be the "many" who traveled down this wide path to "destruction" (Mt 7:12-15) It is the followers of the false prophet Paul (Christians) who call Paul's message the Word of God, whereas the "Word of God" (Rev 19:13-15) is coming back to destroy the nations/Gentiles, the followers of the "false prophet", the "beast", and the "devil" (Rev 16).

 

[metis]

God the son prayed to God the father. You did not know this either?

Thus, they cannot be precisely the same.

"Essence" takes care of this problem, and we well know it was used to formulate the Trinitarian concept. IOW, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are of the "essence" of God.

 

[3rdAngel]

Yeshua called the "message" of the "devil" "lawlessness", which would be the gospel of grace/cross, the message of the false prophet Paul (Mt 13). Yeshua stated it would be the "many" who traveled down this wide path to "destruction" (Mt 7:12-15) It is the followers of the false prophet Paul (Christians) who call Paul's message the Word of God, whereas the "Word of God" (Rev 19:13-15) is coming back to destroy the nations/Gentiles, the followers of the "false prophet", the "beast", and the "devil" (Rev 16).

According to the scriptures a teaching of lawlessness is indeed a teaching of the devil (1 John 2:3-4). Sin is defined in the scriptures as breaking Gods law and not believing and obeying what Gods Word says (1 John 3:4; James 2:10-11; John 3:36; Romans 14:23). There are however unstable people that twist the scriptures to their own destruction (2 Timothy 4:3-4; 2 Peter 3:16). That does not make the Apostle Paul's teachings not true because he does not teach lawlessness. You do indeed err not knowing the scriptures or what they mean and these scripture are fulfilled in your ears.

 

[3rdAngel]

The "funny one" you say ha ha ha - Clearly someone was joking when they told you that the name by which Abraham knew his God was Jesus.
In addition "The Father" is an epithet not a name .. an epithet shared by many Gods ... which is why it is important to know the name friend .. so you know which "Father" you are worshiping. I suspected you did not know which God you were worshiping... thanks for confirming. Next is to figure out whether or not it is the Father of lies you have been following.

According to the scriptures, it is written "Go, and tell this people, Hear you indeed, but understand not; and see you indeed, but perceive not. Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed." and again "They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick. But go you and learn what that means, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance. Do you know what these scriptures mean? I am guessing not.