Why are Christians so judgmental?

[Immortal Awakened]

My post, Immortal, about the dragon comment.

oh i see

 

[Immortal Awakened]

If it amuses you.

lolol

Well, yes, that's what this forum is for.

good; many forums prohibit the expression of nonchristian viewpoints

Not hardly and no you will not be segregated. I think we get along pretty well in RF. In fact, I'd go so far as to say we get along splendidly despite our belief systems.

thats good to hear

I can't have discussions with my extended family as I do here because it would escalate into a shouting match.

a common thing

I try to avoid these "christians".

do you consider yourself to be a christian? you label yourself as a NT Christian atop your posts; what constitutes a true christian and a false christian?

I leave the judging up to God

yikes

and I have no clue what he's going to do.

the bible gives some nice examples of mass genocide, as far as the agenda of the god of the bible is concerned

Yes, I know what the bible says but I also know it was written hy humans with their own agenda.

so you dont believe that the bible is accurate? where do you get your god concept then, if not from the bible?

I'd rather promote the message of His love through my own behavior and attitude.

where did you get this message of God's love? the bible?

 

[Malus 12:9]

good; many forums prohibit the expression of nonchristian viewpoints

This forum permits expressions of nonchristians, but it seems that some viewpoints don't go down well here..

 

[Immortal Awakened]

Tally 'em up. Then consider we're talking about what....5,000...6,000...more ?

actually, the number of god-ordained deaths in the context of the old testament is well into the millions; is this just a numbers game?

....years?

what about years? please be specific

No tally up the genocide that has occurred by nonchristians in just the last 100 years.

why? i was referencing christian genocide as opposed to nonchristian genocide

Yes.

on what basis?

See previous post. No more so than anyone else.

is this supposed to be good?

I think they do too....they're human also.

then why do they make eternal judgments on the souls of nonchristians over and above on the souls of christians?

It would be judging to say they are not true christians.

i agree; so you believe that all who profess to be christian are actually true christians then? you assert that its judging to say that they are not true christians

It is not judging to take them to task for their behavior.

thats exactly what ive been doing

By God

which god are you referring to? the god of the bible?

 

[Immortal Awakened]

Depends on how you define christian.

defining a christian depends on how you define christ

I'm beginning to think the term is meaningless

dont say that to a christian; it could be percieved as judgmental

but then I think I already said that in another thread.

uh oh

 

[Immortal Awakened]

See for yourself

i'll have a look around

Actually it isn't so much I feel Chistians here are as judgmental as the Islam members.

this may depend on what country you live in; members of islam are percieved as more judgmental than christians in the US, but christians are percieved as more judgmental than members of islam in the middle east

And that was not meant as an insult.

i understand

 

[Immortal Awakened]

Quit judging me! :149:

do you judge yourself to be judged by me? :149:

 

[Malus 12:9]

I meant the Islam community of this forum. Which is quite large.

 

[Immortal Awakened]

This forum permits expressions of nonchristians, but it seems that some viewpoints don't go down well here..

dont all christian forums operate that way? or maybe theyre different

 

[Immortal Awakened]

I meant the Islam community of this forum. Which is quite large.

ive never had a member of islam consign me to the eternal hellfire, but many christians have nonetheless done so, in sudden fits of righteous rage

 

[Malus 12:9]

dont all christian forums operate that way? or maybe theyre different

The forum may be owned and run by a Christian, but as you can see by each sections, this is not a christian-only forum. I myself had that impression here upon my first visit.

This is a place for christians, islams, buddhists, almost any religion, including Satanism (LaVeyan or otherwise).

I will agree on one statement said in this thread, think Melody or Feathers or someone said it. This board is possibly one of, almost the most, tolerant religious board I have come across (And I have been to several Christian boards, and well another similar board to this one) but by far this welcomes input from almost any type of person (within reason of course). for what they are.

You will find as per other boards that there are disagreements, of course. Very little does anyone agree with me, beh, not important. I just still post anyways. There's femminism on this board, and they won't agree with me, and I don't agree with them.

If you find issues with something, you may PM Todd to state your case. Sometimes I get uptight over something, whether it be a disagreement, treated unfairly or a putdown from Deut or somethin, but 95% of the time it's resolved.

Enjoy.

 

[Green Gaia]

dont all christian forums operate that way?

As has already been pointed out, this is not a Christian forum. This is a forum for learning, debating, educating about all the different religions and beliefs. As a forum we do not ask that people hold a certain religion, only that they are willing to share and discuss in a civil manner without bashing others and their religions.

So please take a look around and tell us about yourself, your religion and beliefs, and please try to do so without putting down others.

And just in case you missed it, the Forum Rules, please read them.

Maize

 

[Malus 12:9]

I do have a name ...I think

 

[Melody]

moses and joshua exterminated six nationalities in the context of the bible, as directly ordered by the christian god in the old testament[/quote}

Ok....that's two. I believe I listed many more cases of genocide by non-Christians and oh, btw....Moses and Joshua were not Christians. Please list the "christian genocides" you mentioned earlier.

actually, ive heard that hitler was a catholic, although ive not ventured to specifically verify this; however, hitlers mass exterminations of the jews were not quite as thorough as the mass exterminations of moses and his immediate successor joshua, in the context of the bible; hitler left some survivors, whereas moses and joshua recieved direct orders from the god of the bible to leave no survivors;

Hitler being raised catholic does not mean he was either catholic and/or a christian. His behavior would suggest he was neither. Weak link to "christian" genocide. You don't like that my numbers and yet you're using the same argument for why "christian" genocide is somehow more? Can't have it both ways.

and? how specifically does this relate to the discussion? please quote me

was not religion involved here, as pertaining to some form of judgmental god concept?

The listing of other genocides was to show that christians do not have a monopoly on it and, while religion may have played a part in the ones I mentioned, they weren't about christian's murdering people over religion.

If you come up with some substantial debate material, I'd be happy to continue the debate, but it appears you're playing around with doublespeak and contributing no new material so .... b-bye.

 

[Melody]

you dont obey religious leadership? are you a lone ranger christian? do you go to church?

which god are you referring to?

No I do not obey religious leadership. I do not believe in religions. The one true God, of course.

 

[Melody]

do you consider yourself to be a christian? you label yourself as a NT Christian atop your posts; what constitutes a true christian and a false christian?

It would be judgmental to make the determination as to whether someone is a true christian or not. I don't know what's in their hearts and it's not my place. I am a new testament christian in that I follow the teachings of Christ who said the two greatest commandments were to love others as you love yourself and to honor God and place no other gods before Him.

the bible gives some nice examples of mass genocide, as far as the agenda of the god of the bible is concerned

Few, as a matter of fact, when compared to those found in our own history books over just the last 100 years.

so you dont believe that the bible is accurate? where do you get your god concept then, if not from the bible?

I believe that man wrote the bible with his own agenda and while the truth is there, it can only be found through prayer and a right heart.

where did you get this message of God's love? the bible?

Yep, the New Testament.

 

[Melody]

thats exactly what ive been doing

I'm on my way out of town on business so don't have time to go look up the quote, but there is a quote in the new testament about taking our brothers and sisters "in christ" in hand when they stray.

It's not up to you to tell a christian they are straying, if you are not a christian. It's not up to a christian to tell you that you are straying, if you do not profess to be a christian.

There is a difference in spreading the word of God and judging, but again I don't have time right now to be more specific. It has been an interesting conversation but one I'm done with since it appears we aren't making any new headway.

I'll look forward to your other posts on the RF. Be well.

 

[jewscout]

After reading through this entire thread i have come to one conclusion.
People are Judgemental

Immortal, the fact that you are passing judgement based on your own personal experience and nothing else shows your own act of judging people and their faith.
every walk of life, every faith (or non-faith), every kind of people have judgemental individuals within them, it is not exclusively or predominantly any one group at all.

stop and talk with some of the members of our forum and i assure you that you will find this more and more true.

 

[Aqualung]

if ten are christian and ten are non-christian, shouldnt the odds be 50/50? why would the most judgmental people that i meet be christian?

If that were true, then yes, the odds would be 50/50. But this isn't the case. So statistically, it just so happens the judgemtnal people happen to be christians - NOT the christians happen to be judgemental.

 

[Aqualung]

Interesting avatar for an athiest, Aqua..

Why, is shalom a religious word? I just thought it was hebrew.