Why are people afraid of their beliefs being questioned ?

[psychoslice]

Yes Christ is a title which means anointed, Jesus is also the Word of God, He is also the revelation of God for man

Corn (Word of God)
Wine (revelation of the Spirit)
Oil (anointed)

So what, these words point to all of us, we are all the Christ, the word, the revelation, that is when we become Enlightened and realize our true Self, when we are ignorant we lve through the carnal self or the false self. You have to let these words sink in deep to truly understand them, if we cling to Scripture we will never grow.

 

[Benoni]

So what, these words point to all of us, we are all the Christ, the word, the revelation, that is when we become Enlightened and realize our true Self, when we are ignorant we lve through the carnal self or the false self. You have to let these words sink in deep to truly understand them, if we cling to Scripture we will never grow.

The only growth there is is by God's Word and His anointing. Not self anointing

 

[psychoslice]

The only growth there is is by God's Word and His anointing. Not self anointing

Your not understanding what I am trying to say, that is right you as your so called carnal self can do nothing, but when you go deep within the deeper you go the more you will lose your self, and at the same time the more you will find your SELF, do you get it ?.

 

[Katzpur]

Religion is one of those big taboo topics that many people are terrified to touch: too afraid that others will question their religious loyalties and just as afraid to step on the minefield that is the overhyped sensitivity of some believers.

People, after all, live and die in the names of religious values, so the stakes of what we are playing with couldn’t be any higher. And yet, few fields can make many human beings as unwilling to face the evidence as religion. It is exactly because these ideas are so central to their lives that they don’t want anyone to plant doubts in their minds.

So, is religion really for the weak minded, is it just a crutch for those who need something to just believe in, something to make their life worth living, then if this is so, should we or not still questions these peoples beliefs, or should we just leave them where they are happy in their beliefs. Then again if these people don’t like their beliefs questioned, why in the world would they join a forum where we should be free to question others beliefs.

I have been in trouble many times on forums from questioning mainly Christians beliefs, its so frustrating, I can question most other belief systems with no problem, but again when its Christians all hell brakes out.

So should I just keep my big mouth shut and say nothing, or should I tiptoe around egg shells trying no to say the wrong words, as I said its frustrating.

I don't mind in the slightest having my beliefs questioned. And trust me, as a Mormon, I'm used to this happening. Questions cause me to consider things from a new perspective, and be open to different ideas. I like that. What I don't like is when people presume to tell me what Mormons believe or what Mormonism supposedly teaches, because almost without fail they get it wrong. Then it just gets into a...

You believe...
No we don't...
Yes you do...
No we don't...

Until I finally just give up and walk away.

 

[psychoslice]

I don't mind in the slightest having my beliefs questioned. And trust me, as a Mormon, I'm used to this happening. Questions cause me to consider things from a new perspective, and be open to different ideas. I like that. What I don't like is when people presume to tell me what Mormons believe or what Mormonism supposedly teaches, because almost without fail they get it wrong. Then it just gets into a...

You believe...
No we don't...
Yes you do...
No we don't...

Until I finally just give up and walk away.

Yes I use be a Seventh day Adventist, and the same thing happened there, I even heard all the bad things about your church as you have probably heard about mine. I now don't have any beliefs in god but if i was going to say something is wrong in your beliefs, then yes I will have to make sure I exactly understand where you are.

 

[Vinayaka]

I don't mind in the slightest having my beliefs questioned.

I'm not convinced that many people are afraid. Hesitant to share, maybe, and that would be mostly due to the second part.

"You're white. You can't be a Hindu." (yawn) even before

 

[Benoni]

I like that.

Do you know what the word church means in the Greek?

The called out

Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her,
my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her
plagues. (KJV)
Isaiah 4
1And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man,
saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let
us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.

What does the word Church mean? It is a Greek Word “ecclesia” which simply means the called out. There is a true Church and a false Church; Baby-lon is the false church; while the true Church is not a building, a system, denomination but Christ with in us, the hope of Glory.


Jeremiah 51:7 Babylon hath been a golden cup in the LORD's hand, that made all the
earth drunken: the nations have drunken of her wine; therefore the nations are mad.

God uses Baby lon as shown by the verse above; but there is so much more.

 

[Benoni]

Your not understanding what I am trying to say, that is right you as your so called carnal self can do nothing, but when you go deep within the deeper you go the more you will lose your self, and at the same time the more you will find your SELF, do you get it ?.

You are right to be so negative about the Bible it is the most mis-used book in the world. But where you are wrong is you do not know the Word of God that is in the Bible. It is the hidden mysteries you have never seen

 

[psychoslice]

You are right to be so negative about the Bible it is the most mis-used book in the world. But where you are wrong is you do not know the Word of God that is in the Bible. It is the hidden mysteries you have never seen

Again your only seeing your own capabilities, I know there is hinden treasure within the pages of the so called bible, this is why I left Christianity. I was seeing the treasure and was asking questions about this treasure, the church didn't like me thinking outside their square. I don't think you have realize it yet, but you and I think very similar.

 

[Parsimony]

I think people are afraid of having their beliefs questioned only if they can't come up with good answers to those questions. This plays into people questioning their own beliefs as well, "No! Don't think like that! It will offend God!". Thus, the troubling question is pushed away and critical thought is not applied to it. At least, that's how it was with me for a long time. More recently, I have learned to not be afraid of asking questions of my religious beliefs. If they are correct, after all, then they should be able to withstand scrutiny.

 

[psychoslice]

I think people are afraid of having their beliefs questioned only if they can't come up with good answers to those questions. This plays into people questioning their own beliefs as well, "No! Don't think like that! It will offend God!". Thus, the troubling question is pushed away and critical thought is not applied to it. At least, that's how it was with me for a long time. More recently, I have learned to not be afraid of asking questions of my religious beliefs. If they are correct, after all, then they should be able to withstand scrutiny.

And that is a healthy way to be.

 

[Benoni]

Again your only seeing your own capabilities, I know there is hinden treasure within the pages of the so called bible, this is why I left Christianity. I was seeing the treasure and was asking questions about this treasure, the church didn't like me thinking outside their square. I don't think you have realize it yet, but you and I think very similar.

I see that to a point, I left orgsnized religion. You have left christ

 

[psychoslice]

I see that to a point, I left orgsnized religion. You have left christ

No, i have actually found Christ, and he is not someone from over two thousand years ago, he is right within me, and you also if you can see that.

 

[Smart_Guy]

Religion is one of those big taboo topics that many people are terrified to touch: too afraid that others will question their religious loyalties and just as afraid to step on the minefield that is the overhyped sensitivity of some believers.

People, after all, live and die in the names of religious values, so the stakes of what we are playing with couldn’t be any higher. And yet, few fields can make many human beings as unwilling to face the evidence as religion. It is exactly because these ideas are so central to their lives that they don’t want anyone to plant doubts in their minds.

So, is religion really for the weak minded, is it just a crutch for those who need something to just believe in, something to make their life worth living, then if this is so, should we or not still questions these peoples beliefs, or should we just leave them where they are happy in their beliefs. Then again if these people don’t like their beliefs questioned, why in the world would they join a forum where we should be free to question others beliefs.

I have been in trouble many times on forums from questioning mainly Christians beliefs, its so frustrating, I can question most other belief systems with no problem, but again when its Christians all hell brakes out.

So should I just keep my big mouth shut and say nothing, or should I tiptoe around egg shells trying no to say the wrong words, as I said its frustrating.

Hi there.

I as a Muslim do not have a problem discussing my belief with others. I'm willing to take any question with an open mind.

However, there is one thing that really worries me when that happens. It is profanity (I mean bad language and disrespect only). This is a delicate matter to me that could ruin my mood for the rest of the day. My teachings tell me not to answer bad with bad, so all I do in the end is dropping the discussion after receiving so many insults to me and my beliefs. Why would people insult God when they ask about him? Why the disrespect towards some one who respects them back?

So, some times I do this :run:

 

[psychoslice]

Hi there.

I as a Muslim do not have a problem discussing my belief with others. I'm willing to take any question with an open mind.

However, there is one thing that really worries me when that happens. It is profanity (I mean bad language and disrespect only). This is a delicate matter to me that could ruin my mood for the rest of the day. My teachings tell me not to answer bad with bad, so all I do in the end is dropping the discussion after receiving so many insults to me and my beliefs. Why would people insult God when they ask about him? Why the disrespect towards some one who respects them back?

So, some times I do this :run:

Respect is one thing, but truth is another, how can I respect a god that doesn't exists, that's not insulting anyone, you are not your beliefs, they are in your mind only.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Hi there.

I as a Muslim do not have a problem discussing my belief with others. I'm willing to take any question with an open mind.

However, there is one thing that really worries me when that happens. It is profanity (I mean bad language and disrespect only). This is a delicate matter to me that could ruin my mood for the rest of the day. My teachings tell me not to answer bad with bad, so all I do in the end is dropping the discussion after receiving so many insults to me and my beliefs. Why would people insult God when they ask about him? Why the disrespect towards some one who respects them back?

So, some times I do this :run:

Hey mate,

Sorta belated welcome to RF!
In terms of your post, it's a shame when things degenerate to personal insults, and it should never really come to that.
I'm interested, though, in what you would see as an insult to your beliefs? As an atheist, could I inadvertently insult your beliefs while trying to discuss something with you, even though I am attempting to be polite and rational?

 

[Thana]

Respect is one thing, but truth is another, how can I respect a god that doesn't exists, that's not insulting anyone, you are not your beliefs, they are in your mind only.

You don't have to respect God. Just respect the fact that someone else believes in Him, And insulting Him is insulting the persons creator.
It's the same as insulting their father or mother, They're not going to appreciate it.

You don't know their mother, But you insult her.
You don't believe their mother is real, Insulting their intellegence and ability to distinguish between reality and fantasy.

Can you see how it can upset people greatly?

 

[Thana]

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And that's your problem.
You don't think people can really love God, do you?

You don't think that someone can love God more than their mother or father, That he's just imaginary and we're all delusional.

Nice.

 

[psychoslice]

And that's your problem.
You don't think people can really love God, do you?

You don't think that someone can love God more than their mother or father, That he's just imaginary and we're all delusional.

Nice.

Oh yes i do, i once did the same as you, that is until i woke up.

 

[Thana]

Oh yes i do, i once did the same as you, that is until i woke up.

So you're saying I'm asleep?
Ignorant, Misinformed, Why don't you just say crazy and we can have a field day with it.

Your perspective is.... interesting, To say the least.