Clara you are proving to be quite unique........The world needs someone with answers....and you have answers. ( I forgot humility)
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Why are people fighting
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Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
I have stopped criticism of other religious beliefs, so I have no answer to you on this.
You are a soft hearted and wish well for humans. I hope God strengthens you to join believers be they hated and notorious in the vision of oppressive people and I pray you distance yourself and don't include yourself among an oppressive people and understand why God didn't stop at "guide us the straight path", but indicated a clue of it, "the path of those who you favored (your religion upon humanity) upon/regarding" and Quran explains who God specially favored with his religion and who he wants humans to approach, but it's not good enough to just want to be guided on their path... so it didn't stop there, and emphasized on being aware of evil creatures in God's sight "other then those who your wrath is upon nor of those who astray" and there are degrees, but we are to not walk their ways and be aware of them "and do not incline/seek tranquility from a people who are oppressive (oppressive towards their own very souls and others) so that hell touches you" and "O you who believe, do not take advisors except from yourselves...."
By the way, we all want peace. Both sides but one is described in Quran as such "when it is told to them do not make havoc in the earth, they say we are only setters aright (in the land)" "Alas, it is they who are the havoc causers in the land but they don't perceive".
Truth is Yazid killed Imam Hussain (a) because of this perspective. Everyone claims to want peace, but who is causing havoc in the land?
The Prophets (a) before Mohammad (s) were often killed by "setters aright/reformers in the land/peace makers" and Mohamad's (s) family were killed one by one, poisoned, or tortured in jailed or slaughtered, etc, because they saw them as sorcerers and that the world will lose it's freedom. This is the truth about the opponents of Ahlulbayt (a). They opposed them for not just greed for temporary rule, but to prevent their rule out of creed of their debauched sexual freedoms pre-Islam and hid their disbelief while testifying to Islam outwardly.
It's clear and it's clear how blind they are to their own oppressive ways towards other humans.
Truth is Yazid killed Imam Hussain (a) because of this perspective. Everyone claims to want peace, but who is causing havoc in the land?
The Prophets (a) before Mohammad (s) were often killed by "setters aright/reformers in the land/peace makers" and Mohamad's (s) family were killed one by one, poisoned, or tortured in jailed or slaughtered, etc, because they saw them as sorcerers and that the world will lose it's freedom. This is the truth about the opponents of Ahlulbayt (a). They opposed them for not just greed for temporary rule, but to prevent their rule out of creed of their debauched sexual freedoms pre-Islam and hid their disbelief while testifying to Islam outwardly.
It's clear and it's clear how blind they are to their own oppressive ways towards other humans.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
I believe in showing the soft and compassion path to God. Not with hate and discredit of others belief.
If you can combine the two, having compassion for the astray and lost, while hating and discrediting falsehood, it would be the best way.
God has compassion for disbelievers, but he doesn't like them/adore them/praise them. His compassion is such that every day, he is trying to save as much as he can, anyone he can, but he won't change his word now, no going back, Iblis and the fight for souls, is a word he is not backing out of.
Perhaps, if God knew the results, he would never have allowed it to happen, but all of this, from Adam (a) swerving to humans following idols among humans instead of leaders appointed by God, none of this was meant to happen.
It's a spiritual madness and illness we inherit, hating truth and loving falsehood or being apathetic for truth for sake of love of the Dunya that passes away, but we will be held accountable for how we responded to the sent ones by God (mursaleen).
People aren't sincere to God, because it's the culture of insincerity. We don't care about others to attempt to remind them and guide them and influence them towards the correct path (of course it's up to them to decide, and we can't actually guide them, up to God to permit and he doesn't change a condition of a people unless they change themselves).
The Quran warns so we heed warnings and break this chain of insincerity. But it warns it might not happen, even probably won't happen, and almost definitely won't happen if the previous generations deny the signs.
All we can do in these dark times is hope and do our best in waiting for the return of the Mahdi the holy king of our time among humans. The waiting should be both hopeful for good results but even more so in need, is fear of the warnings and bad results.
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Because:Why are so many people fighting over religious beliefs
It's driving me nuts
- people think their religious beliefs and true and very important.
- no religion has enough support for the arguments to be settled by evidence.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
I do not wish to hate anyone
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Well, to me that extends to other versions of metaphysics than idealism and some claims of rationalism and/or empiricism that doesn't stand up. It is not limited to religion.
I hate what humans have become and choose God and his chosen ones over them.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
You can not change them, they can only change by them selvs
live by the light and be a light for others
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Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Fighting is an essential aspect of nature.
We are no exception.
We are no exception.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
Why?
You dont believe in peace?
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Sure. I think peace however is only something that can be achieved in incremental periods of stability, but is never permanent.
That's just noting the reality of humanity and nature.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
Didn't Buddha teach peace from within? You can't control others, only your own being
Why are so many people fighting over religious beliefs
It's driving me nuts
Heres my take,religion and politics are peas from the same pod,I don’t see it as fighting but rather some hard questioning,people in the proselytising religions when confronted by this hard questioning feel under attack,after all proselytising is really a one way street right?,that’s of course imo.
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
Um because what people believe is very important to them, just as it always has been though out history.Why are so many people fighting over religious beliefs
It's driving me nuts
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Buddha never taught control. He taught a path for realization.
Your probably thinking of the Taming of the Ox where things thrash and buck wildly and associated struggles to calm it down.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
I try not to proselytize so I dont know
I try not to proselytize so I dont know
Not all Muslims do but Da’wah is and invitation to Islam,an obligation to many.