Why are there still Monkeys?

[Aman777]

Your questions show your unwillingness to understand evolution.

Dear idav, I understand evolution which is the measured difference in the allele frequency over time, within a population, and I AGREE, since it is nothing more than changes with His kinds. Those are the kinds (common ancestors) Jesus made with His Own Hands. FYI, I'm a converted Evol.

They are loaded question and you still avoid putting anything to debate.

The debate is simple. Humans did NOT evolve from the common ancestor of Apes as the False ToE teaches. That is because Humans were made on the THIRD Day and the common ancestor of Apes was made on the FIFTH Day, making it IMPOSSIBLE that Humans could have evolved from the common ancestor of Apes. Refute that.

Every field of science corroborate evolution.

God KNEW they would BEFORE He set the Snare of the Flood. Evols, rejecting the story of the Flood, began to make up what they think happened without the Flood, which shows that Humans were NOT made in the present world, but in Adam's world which was totally destroyed in the Flood. ll Peter 3:3-7

Evols have been Falsely teaching the UnSupportable view that Apes magically changed into Humans by magical Evolution for more than 50 years now. It has to be Magic since it's nothing but Fantasy, built on provable, false and incomplete information.

There is no denying it other than sticking your head in the sand. So to be a little more clear, there are no "first" humans, every transition is closer to the new species and further from the old species. So please spare us the loaded questions and cut it out with the magic stuff, magic is what a magical god does not a natural god

False, since Science teaches that we inherit our intelligence from our parents. Without a FIRST Human, you have no Human intelligence to pass on to your Human children, since NO animal has EVER had Human intelligence. It is unique to Adam and God Gen 3:22 and Adam's descendants. Today, Adam has some 7 Billion Human descendants on an Earth which Adam never took a single step on. That's God's Truth. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

 

[Aman777]

Dear Quatermass, On what charges? Telling God's Truth? God Bless you.

Consistently derailing threads and trolling.

Every time you enter a thread you're saying the same old thing and turn it into a thead about a discussion of YOUR beliefs and not what the original post was about. It's annoying. You're annoying. So reported.

Dear Quatermass, The name of the thread is Why are there still Monkeys. I can only tell you what I know and that is that there are still monkeys because the False ToE is a Lie, provable by Science, Scripture, and History. You're just ticked off because it goes against your "belief" (religion). Learn to be nice. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

 

[ImmortalFlame]

The debate is simple. Humans did NOT evolve from the common ancestor of Apes as the False ToE teaches. That is because Humans were made on the THIRD Day and the common ancestor of Apes was made on the FIFTH Day, making it IMPOSSIBLE that Humans could have evolved from the common ancestor of Apes. Refute that.

Easy. Apes existed before humans. The earliest ape fossils we currently have can be dated to around 25-30 million years ago, whereas the earliest examples of fossils belonging to the homo genus emerge around 2.3 million years ago; with the earliest homo sapiens only appearing about 400 thousand years ago.

Sources:
http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/35555/title/Oldest-Fossil-of-Ape-Discovered/
nsf.gov - National Science Foundation (NSF) News - Evolution's Past Is Modern Human's Present - US National Science Foundation (NSF)

There, refuted. Apes pre-date man.

 

[DawudTalut]

It's a common question asked of me: WHY R THUR STILL MUNKEES!? They cry.

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Will these monkeys ever become human? How about missing-link? Have they found yet?

 

[Aman777]

Easy. Apes existed before humans. The earliest ape fossils we currently have can be dated to around 25-30 million years ago, whereas the earliest examples of fossils belonging to the homo genus emerge around 2.3 million years ago; with the earliest homo sapiens only appearing about 400 thousand years ago.

Sources:
http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/35555/title/Oldest-Fossil-of-Ape-Discovered/
nsf.gov - National Science Foundation (NSF) News - Evolution's Past Is Modern Human's Present - US National Science Foundation (NSF)

There, refuted. Apes pre-date man.

Dear ImmortalFlame, False. Do you consider man's knowledge greater than God's? If so, then tell us HOW ancient man knew HOW and WHEN we changed from animal to Human intelligence. Gen 6:1-4 NO man knows, but God does, and His Truth destroys the weak, incomplete Theories of men who falsely suppose we evolved from the common ancestor of Apes.

BTW, I noticed that you didn't even try to refute me Scripturally nor Historically. Is it because these Truths show that Evolution is a Satanic Lie and cannot be supported by anything but the beliefs of Evols seeking agreement from other Evols? Of course it is.

Can you explain WHY Human farming, city building, math and writing and EVERY other modern Human trait appeared SUDDENLY exactly where God tells us the Ark arrived, and the remains of the FIRST Human cities remain, TODAY? Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

 

[Kilgore Trout]

The other day I had a conversation with a monkey who doesn't believe in evolution. He asked me "if evolution is true, then why are there still humans?"

 

[idav]

Dear idav, I understand evolution which is the measured difference in the allele frequency over time, within a population, and I AGREE, since it is nothing more than changes with His kinds. Those are the kinds (common ancestors) Jesus made with His Own Hands. FYI, I'm a converted Evol.

Here is the only part almost pertaining to the OP.

Kinds didn't exist by just popping out of the ground in one day. Just looking at the fossil record alone shows that common ancestors came about gradually as evolution went on. Explain why the bones and timelines make it appear as if their was gradual progression over time. Humans don't just pop into their out of sequence. Humans and all other hominids appear in sequence of fossil record exactly as you would expect with gradual progression of species over a large period of time.

Evolution of mammals
The oldest reptiles having mammal-like features, the synapsids, occur in rocks of Pennsylvanian age formed about 305 mya. However, the first mammals do not appear in the fossil record until Late Triassic time, about 210 mya. Hopson (1994) noted, "Of all the great transitions between major structural grades within vertebrates, the transition from basal amniotes [egg-laying tetrapods except amphibians] to basal mammals is represented by the most complete and continuous fossil record.... Structural evolution of particular functional systems has been well investigated, notably the feeding mechanism... and middle ear, and these studies have demonstrated the gradual nature of these major adaptive modifications."

Evolution and the Fossil Record by John Pojeta, Jr. and Dale A. Springer

 

[Parsimony]

Will these monkeys ever become human? How about missing-link? Have they found yet?

What modern monkey populations become in the future depends on what selective pressures are at work as well as what mutations will occur. They will not become true humans, but under the right circumstances, convergent evolution might allow them to evolve into something similar to us.

As far as the missing link goes, I guess that depends on what one defines as a missing link. There would many links, not just one. There are various species of Australopithecus and early Homo that could qualify.

 

[metis]

Will these monkeys ever become human? How about missing-link? Have they found yet?

The environmental pulls on monkeys is very different now, and some human interaction with monkeys may have some future ramifications. If you have a dog, for example, it behaves somewhat differently than the ancestral wolves in that if you look and point, your dog will likely look as well, but wolves and foxes won't. If you throw a ball, dogs will retrieve but wolves and foxes won't. This change is because of human interaction with them that selected certain characteristics we so desired in dogs.

As far as "missing link", we tend not to use that in anthropology, typically preferring "quantum leap" or some other terminology. We may be very close to finding the ape-human split, which appears to have occurred somewhere around 6 million or so years ago. The relatively recent Chad find has been very difficult to classify because it has so many human-ape characteristics.

 

[Desert Snake]

Easy. Apes existed before humans. The earliest ape fossils we currently have can be dated to around 25-30 million years ago, whereas the earliest examples of fossils belonging to the homo genus emerge around 2.3 million years ago; with the earliest homo sapiens only appearing about 400 thousand years ago.

Sources:
http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/35555/title/Oldest-Fossil-of-Ape-Discovered/
nsf.gov - National Science Foundation (NSF) News - Evolution's Past Is Modern Human's Present - US National Science Foundation (NSF)

There, refuted. Apes pre-date man.

And that makes sense to you? ok.

 

[Secret Chief]

Most of us Americans came from Europe. Why are there still Europeans?

We can't afford the air fare.

 

[ScuzManiac]

The debate is simple. Humans did NOT evolve from the common ancestor of Apes as the False ToE teaches. That is because Humans were made on the THIRD Day and the common ancestor of Apes was made on the FIFTH Day, making it IMPOSSIBLE that Humans could have evolved from the common ancestor of Apes. Refute that.

Okay, I'll refute it.

You're not throwing around ANY solid evidence as you are simply using a MAN MADE book as a reference. Now, I'm going to go read The Hobbit. I'll be back in a few hours to make the debate that we all came from The Shire and are direct descendants of Smaug the Dragon. If you "refute" that.....

I'll just refer back to The Hobbit and threaten you with sorcery.

 

[Willamena]

Why are there still Monkees?

The magic of re-runs.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Dear Nowhere Man, Humans did NOT evolve from Apes, nor from the common ancestor of Apes, just to correct your misunderstanding. Since Humans were made long BEFORE the common ancestor of Apes, Gen 2:4-7 please describe the procedure for this magical evolving you say Humans did from nasty old dirty Apes. You CANNOT and neither can Science. That's because the False ToE is the biggest Lie ever told in the history of Humankind. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

Well your thoughts may put that forth, but your body, your very own body that houses your mind, in contrast tells a very pointed and direct truth that cannot ever be changed. And that is you are indeed an evolved ape. As am I.

When you were a fetus still developing you went through some incredibly facinating stages. You developed gills briefly and sported a tail approx 4 weeks in development. Even though they were absorbed, your very genes loudly state your disposition as a member of the ape family. You definitely have a true tailbone inside you every moment and an appendix that deftly remains as solid evidence of your ancestral past.

A simple brief of those ancient genes you have right now. This very moment makes you a living testament of evolution and your heritage with the family of apes. You may deny of course, but you can never get rid of the truth that remains physically pervasive throughout your physical being that tells the real truth of the matter.

Embryos Show All Animals Share Ancient Genes : Discovery News : Discovery News

 

[Ouroboros]

Man being "formed of the dust of the ground" just spells magic not science. We are all star dust sure, that evolved intelligence but didn't happen magically in one day.

And we're 60% water (H2O), which would constitute "clay" rather than "dust".

Actually, I think we're wetter than clay even. Clay, I read somewhere, is around 30% water, but I haven't confirmed it.

The funny thing is that we blink because our eyes need to be in water. It's something we inherited from our fish past. Our eyes developed in water. And it's also interesting that we hear comparisons with human inventions, that our body has this or that and scientists can't make the same thing, yada yada. Well.. we have cameras that don't need to be kept wet, and still works under water, and in space, and some cameras now have higher resolution than human eyes, and some can see in the dark, etc. Our human body "design" is falling behind. God could've done better.

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And why are Monkees still around? Well, I guess some people still like their music.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Dear ImmortalFlame, False. Do you consider man's knowledge greater than God's? If so, then tell us HOW ancient man knew HOW and WHEN we changed from animal to Human intelligence. Gen 6:1-4 NO man knows, but God does, and His Truth destroys the weak, incomplete Theories of men who falsely suppose we evolved from the common ancestor of Apes.

BTW, I noticed that you didn't even try to refute me Scripturally nor Historically. Is it because these Truths show that Evolution is a Satanic Lie and cannot be supported by anything but the beliefs of Evols seeking agreement from other Evols? Of course it is.

Can you explain WHY Human farming, city building, math and writing and EVERY other modern Human trait appeared SUDDENLY exactly where God tells us the Ark arrived, and the remains of the FIRST Human cities remain, TODAY? Map: Fertile Cresent, 9000 to 4500 BCE God Bless you.

I can't help but notice that in all this garbled nonsense, you failed to even address the simple fact that I just showed that you're wrong about apes coming into existence after man.

I'm just going to call POE and be on my merry way, then.

 

[Thief]

And we're 60% water (H2O), which would constitute "clay" rather than "dust".

Actually, I think we're wetter than clay even. Clay, I read somewhere, is around 30% water, but I haven't confirmed it.

The funny thing is that we blink because our eyes need to be in water. It's something we inherited from our fish past. Our eyes developed in water. And it's also interesting that we hear comparisons with human inventions, that our body has this or that and scientists can't make the same thing, yada yada. Well.. we have cameras that don't need to be kept wet, and still works under water, and in space, and some cameras now have higher resolution than human eyes, and some can see in the dark, etc. Our human body "design" is falling behind. God could've done better.

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And why are Monkees still around? Well, I guess some people still like their music.

Dust we are made of....dust we will be.

So...being human isn't good enough?
I might agree.
'No one is good but the Father.'

 

[McBell]

It's God you cannot refute.

Your hypocrisy is most entertaining:

You are the one claiming such a thing. It's up to you to support your UnSupportable ideas.

 

[McBell]

Dust we are made of....dust we will be.

See, you toss out science when it interferes with your beliefs...

'No one is good but the Father.'

Poor poor Jesus.
Have you let him know he is not good?

 

[outhouse]

I'm just going to call POE and be on my merry way, then.

He has admitted POE in another thread.

Said he is only posting to see what kind of reaction he gets.