Why Are White Men Stockpiling Guns?

[Curious George]

Why Are White Men Stockpiling Guns?

Interesting article based on various scientific studies.

Comments? Observations? Depraved rants?

Interesting is certainly a good adjective. What are your thoughts on the article Sun?

 

[Father Heathen]

It's more honest than ad hominems, or strawmanning me into some archetypal conservative. (I'm not, not even a little bit.)

Yet you're guilty of doing the very same thing. That is, using silly stereotypes and straw men when addressing liberals. For example, referring to everyone on the left as "marxists" is no different than referring to everyone one the right as " fascists".

 

[Shaul]

Why did this “scientific study” totally ignore that male gun ownership is falling while female gun ownership is rising? Could it be (gasp!) that there was some anti-gun agenda behind them? Maybe they think the increase in female gun ownership is due to them thinking they have small penises too.

Female Gun Ownership Up in America, While Male Gun Ownership Continues to Shrink

 

[Epic Beard Man]

It seems that your parents gave bad advice.
Black guys would have more to fear from each other....on average.
Ref....
https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-09-29/race-and-homicide-in-america-by-the-numbers

Oh here comes the black on black crime. Sorry criminals shoot criminals. Yes I grew up in the criminal element and not dead. However let's talk about coward white guys with guns who feel masculine with a pistol. I bet if you saw big bubba you want to grip that pistol huh?

 

[suncowiam]

The Popeye Syndrome arrives in the 2nd post.
But it's not just white guys.
Black folk & women are into gun ownership too.
The age of Trump is producing more black gun owners
Female Gun Ownership Up in America, While Male Gun Ownership Continues to Shrink
Rising Voice of Gun Ownership Is Female
More Chinese immigrants enjoying the freedom of US gun ownership
My Chinese (ABC) bro-in-law is getting into guns too.

I wonder....
Would Popeye also tell black gun owners they have tiny penises?
I think that would turn out poorly for him.

The penis joke is not needed and the wrong angle to criticize this issue. It wasn't respectful.

However, I don't think we should deny that men are much more statistically proven to commit violent crimes than women. The weapon of choice is arbitrary in the sense of what the environment suffices. In the US, it just happens to be guns. Take that away then it would probably be knives proven from other countries with stronger gun control. Still, men have a more aggressive psychology. We see it in nature in other mammals.

I do honestly think that guns is part of that aggression or empowerment. That's more from circumstantial observation than anything clinically proven.

Agree? No?

 

[suncowiam]

Why did this “scientific study” totally ignore that male gun ownership is falling while female gun ownership is rising? Could it be (gasp!) that there was some anti-gun agenda behind them? Maybe they think the increase in female gun ownership is due to them thinking they have small penises too.

Female Gun Ownership Up in America, While Male Gun Ownership Continues to Shrink

The two statistics are independent of each other. No where in the article suggested a reason for the inverse correlation of male decline to female incline. There is no correlation between the two.

With that, I'm just going to focus on the female increase...

That's good that we have statistics, but in the same article it also suggested why more females are owning guns. They strictly are used for self defense. Plus, it suggested that the increase is small saying a 3 percent in the span of almost a decade.

Concerning the statistics of which sex commits the most violent crimes, which is male, I do speculate that females are forced to carry guns strictly for self defense. I'm not surprised that there is an increase in female ownership. I just speculate that this is not by choice for enjoyment but by choice of necessity to combat the danger of male violence.

 

[suncowiam]

It's mostly because if you don't own a gun via the #2A, the rest of your rights are merely suggestions.

Could I ask you to be more specific?

Are you suggesting that one has to own a gun before he's entitled to all his other rights listed in the constitution?

 

[Skwim]

I didn't bring it in.
I addressed what was already here.

Well, the first time blacks and females were mentioned was in your:

The Popeye Syndrome arrives in the 2nd post.
But it's not just white guys.
Black folk & women are into gun ownership too.
The age of Trump is producing more black gun owners
Female Gun Ownership Up in America, While Male Gun Ownership Continues to Shrink
Rising Voice of Gun Ownership Is Female
More Chinese immigrants enjoying the freedom of US gun ownership
My Chinese (ABC) bro-in-law is getting into guns too.

I wonder....
Would Popeye also tell black gun owners they have tiny penises?
I think that would turn out poorly for him.

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[Shadow Wolf]

a factor is white men are more likely to have the duty of protecting the nuclear family. (since they actually live with their wives, and kids)

There is also the factor that being racist against white people is O.K. in liberal ideology. (as in new-liberal, aka socialism or marxism masquerading as liberal, lol)

It's mostly because if you don't own a gun via the #2A, the rest of your rights are merely suggestions.

Gun or no gun, your "rights" can be taken away on a whim, and it's happened in America more than a few times.

They just do what they feel their duty is and ignore those who whine and complain or would attempt to characterize them poorly for making such decisions.

Cool! That would include those like Hannibal Lector, who performed his duty by killing a musician of poor quality.

 

[Skwim]

A real man is going to do exactly whatever he needs to do for the purposes of safety of his loved ones, so what is selfish exactly about that?

A real man doesn't care about your feelings when his families safety or other needs are in question. They just do what they gotta do.

I haven't seen "A real man" appeal since I was in the army with a bunch of red-necks

from Albany Alabama.


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[Shadow Wolf]

I haven't seen "A real man" appeal since I was in the army with a bunch of red-necks

from Albany Alabama.


.

Just like the "True Christian," gotta separate those others of us who don't do things like us. No dissenting opinion either, because that will make you an other us rather than an us us.

 

[Father Heathen]

Could I ask you to be more specific?

Are you suggesting that one has to own a gun before he's entitled to all his other rights listed in the constitution?

He's suggesting that shotgun toting hillbillies can thwart the government (and the police/military) should it turn despotic overnight.

 

[Father Heathen]

They don't understand that creating an environment that gives people more rights as an individual naturally leads to tolerance, reduced violence, etc.

You mean like gay rights, reproductive rights, legalization of victimless crimes, etc? How are repubs creating this environment?

 

[lewisnotmiller]

The average modern liberal doesn't line up with all of these distinctions, mind you. If they perceived the cruelty in it the public at large would reject it. Instead, they have to focus on the tolerance, injustice, inequality issue, and so on to sympathize with the borg collective.

Their only failure is in not realizing that strong individual rights are exactly what gave us the platform in this country in the first place. They're willing to trade those rights for the fore-mentioned altruistic ends, but they don't seem to fully grasp what that means.

If you have no guns your other rights are merely suggestions rather than rights. If you cannot enforce them when you have to you don't have them. This is going down in the UK, Australia, Canada, and any other country with these policies. They lose the gun rights, then the speech, then something else. They can't do anything to stop it without a bloody revolution at this point.

Probably best to limit discussion on Australia unless you're sure you understand our situation. I'd reject suggestions we are 'less free'.

 

[oldbadger]

A real man is going to do exactly whatever he needs to do for the purposes of safety of his loved ones, so what is selfish exactly about that? He'll also accept the criticisms of people outside of awareness of his situation and equally disregard them. Liberals are in the business of telling everyone how they should live, but they never can answer the why. If you ask a conservative why he owns guns he'll tell you why and whether or not you accept those reasons as valid they are for his situation. Liberals aren't even honest that their war on guns is because white conservative people with families have them. They hate families, they hate white people, and man do they hate conservatives. (or even Libertarians, for that matter) For someone coming from my perspective, I will not trust those comments because they come from a group of people who are being disingenuous about their motives in the situation. The same problem even comes to use of the term liberal which, colloquially, is synonymous with Marxism or socialism at this point. They're not honest about their intents, motives, or even their ideology so what man who happens to be white, have a family, and realizes the need to protect them would give their views any consideration?

Oh well......... the OP asked for our rants.

But your idea of a 'real man' looks more like a dumbo to me, because if or when the US laws change about guns, if he doesn't comply then he's no longer a 'real man protecting his loved ones', he would just be a criminal. True?

 

[oldbadger]

He was a violent man. Always beating up his cohorts. Twelve Hail Marys and a fifth of scotch should cure you.

You got that wrong-way-round. @Revoltingest would need five Hail Marys and 12 scotches.

But he needs to say the Hail Marys first, or he'll just keep bursting into song half way through 'em.

 

[oldbadger]

Probably best to limit discussion on Australia unless you're sure you understand our situation. I'd reject suggestions we are 'less free'.

Ozzies are less free for sure.
You ain't got a hummer with machine-gun parked on your drive. With enough money an American can!
We occasionally watch 'Pawn-Stars' here, about a Las Vegas Pawn shop, and the store boss sometimes buys and sells machine-guns...... and you can even buy a Gatling gun if you've got enough money.

And all you've got is your boomerang.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

You got that wrong-way-round. @Revoltingest would need five Hail Marys and 12 scotches.

But he needs to say the Hail Marys first, or he'll just keep bursting into song half way through 'em.

Undoubtedly drunken Viking songs from his frat days. The last good times he ever had, no doubt.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

It's because modern liberals aren't liberals, just pretending to be.

They don't understand that creating an environment that gives people more rights as an individual naturally leads to tolerance, reduced violence, etc. Proper classical liberals realized that these things happened automatically if you gave each person strong personal rights, so it focused on creating an economic situation of opportunity. They corrupted that message and took it to mean "force all others to be tolerant with intolerance to views that do not line up with ours", lol

It's just a complete failure to understand the concept and through ignorance becomes socialism, fascism, and totalitarianism in drag.

And there it is. "No True Liberal"

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

The average modern liberal doesn't line up with all of these distinctions, mind you. If they perceived the cruelty in it the public at large would reject it. Instead, they have to focus on the tolerance, injustice, inequality issue, and so on to sympathize with the borg collective.

Their only failure is in not realizing that strong individual rights are exactly what gave us the platform in this country in the first place. They're willing to trade those rights for the fore-mentioned altruistic ends, but they don't seem to fully grasp what that means.

If you have no guns your other rights are merely suggestions rather than rights. If you cannot enforce them when you have to you don't have them. This is going down in the UK, Australia, Canada, and any other country with these policies. They lose the gun rights, then the speech, then something else. They can't do anything to stop it without a bloody revolution at this point.

What rights have you ever"enforced" with a firearm?

By the way, I'm an Australian, AND a gun owner. What "rights" do you think I'm being denied? Specifically?