Why cant Christians openly try to convert Muslims in Muslim countries ?

[YmirGF]

As i said it is a pointless arguement,and now approved to be so,
so,at this point please dont waste my time and yours,
You want to regard me as a weak and that you were superman,
its ok to me,but i am not glad to go ahead further on this
pointless issue.

I am more than happy to accomodate you whatever you decide. Care to answer my lingering questions about the policy of making people beg to fix their places of worship or to build new places of worship? Is that tolerance? Is that NOT compulsion?

 

[FearGod]

So? The Celtic Christians did the same in Ireland. What's your point?

Sorry that i dont have any information regarding Celtic Christians,where first appeared,
and what the difference between catholics,orthodox and Celtic christians and their
effect on Ireland

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

trruth, again for the 3rd time, please answer my question. Which countries would you consider exemplary with regards to their treatment of proselytizing and apostasy?
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[arthra]

It might be a good idea to read the article on proselytizing in the wikipedia:

Proselytism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There are limits on proselytizing in many countries.. both in the East and the West..on government property and schools, etc.

 

[godlikemadman]

Am I the only one here curious as to why Markymark has such a profound hatred for the Islamic religion?

 

[InformedIgnorance]

I just try to take it in stride - it is easier that way.

Unfortunately it is much easier to deal with the symptoms than the cause, particularly given that the cause is usually unknown, especially to the individual in question. For that reason, it is easier to attempt to correct them on small issues like this, rather than dealing with a larger issue like Islamophobia; sure there will be numerous issues like this, but after they see a trend in the type of responses they get across the subjects, those individuals usually at least subconsciously temper the outwards expression of such things (and hopefully, though doubtfully, even reconsider their position)... it is only when their baseless concerns are reinforced by positive responses or some real or imagined controversy that they kick up again.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

trruth, again for the 3rd time, please answer my question. Which countries would you consider exemplary with regards to their treatment of proselytizing and apostasy?

trruth, no doubt you've missed this, so let me PM you ...

... now, for the 4th time please answer my question: Which countries would you consider exemplary with regards to their treatment of proselytizing and apostasy?

 

[FearGod]

trruth, no doubt you've missed this, so let me PM you ...

... now, for the 4th time please answer my question: Which countries would you consider exemplary with regards to their treatment of proselytizing and apostasy?

There is no punisment in the muslim world for apostasy,that is only in the media
showing the muslim killing who will not pray to god or follow his commands and
that all women are oppressed.that is lies and not true.

Lets the pictures talk again,

Turkey consist of 99% of muslims,let us see some pictures

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[YmirGF]

Are all four of these lovely ladies apostates? Or is this some funky new form of proselytization? If it is a new form of proselytization, it is a movement I could certainly live with.

Am I the only one here curious as to why Markymark has such a profound hatred for the Islamic religion?

I don't see his views so much as being based in hatred, rather it is more likely that they are simply based on misunderstanding.

The simple fact is that the average non-Muslim knows virtually nothing about Islam.

 

[arcanum]

There is no punisment in the muslim world for apostasy,that is only in the media
showing the muslim killing who will not pray to god or follow his commands and
that all women are oppressed.that is lies and not true.

Lets the pictures talk again,

Turkey consist of 99% of muslims,let us see some pictures

turkish actress

Reference : Beauty Pageant Turkish Model And Actress Azra Akin Photos | Beautiful World, Hot Girls, Women , Actresses

Lebanese actress


Reference : ÌÈáÉ - ÑæÒí: ÇáÚÑí áíÓ ÏÇÆãðÇ ÛáØðÇ - ÍßÇíÇ - ÇáãÞÇáÇÊ

Egyptian actress




Tunisian actress


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How do you think those women would fare in Saudi abarbia or Afghanistan posing like that?

 

[sojourner]

I was about to mention that I don't see any Iranian, Afghan, or Saudi women here...
But, then again, burkas aren't very sexy...

 

[YmirGF]

How do you think those women would fare in Saudi abarbia or Afghanistan posing like that?

Indeed. Or Iran, for that matter. The thing that most don't understand is that Muslims themselves are all over the board on these issues. It is true to say that the majority opinion is that the apostate should not be killed, however, the sad reality is that a significant minority hold precisely the opposite view.

One is reminded of the plight of a fellow in Afghanistan who was a convert to Christianity. He was sentenced to death, but due to intense international pressure the case was reviewed and the man was deemed insane and so the death penalty was set aside. (The man fled to Italy, as it was no longer safe for him to stay in Afghanistan, even with the ruling of the court.)

What is genuinely troubling thing here is the idea that if one who would convert from Islam to Christianity is clearly insane.

 

[YmirGF]

I was about to mention that I don't see any Iranian, Afghan, or Saudi women here...
But, then again, burkas aren't very sexy...

To be truthful, Sojourner, it is merely an act of deception, on the part of trruth, to put lipstick on the face of Islam, as it were. Though deception may be a bit too strong a word, surely "deflection" hits the mark.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

trruth, no doubt you've missed this, so let me PM you ...

... now, for the 4th time please answer my question: Which countries would you consider exemplary with regards to their treatment of proselytizing and apostasy?

There is no punisment in the muslim world for apostasy, ...

Turkey consist of 99% of muslims, let us see some pictures ...

I'd consider asking a 5th time, but I'm beginning to think it's a hopeless cause. And, speaking of 'cause', you're doing yours a significant disservice. Your choice ...

 

[beenie]

uh ...my islamic countries are run by muslims who follow the quran directly

I know of NONE that apply Islamic law properly, so maybe try again?

Only Iran and Saudi Arabia are governed by islamic rules other muslim countries are secular countries and you are free to invite somebody to whatever religion
I don't know the situation in Iran and Saudi Arabia but in my opinion you must be free to invite somebody to a religion as you don't force him.

Incorrectly governed. Kingdoms are not permitted in Islamic law; therefore KSA's "government" is outside the law of Islam/Qur'an.

really have you heard of pakistan

**snickers** Apparently, you haven't visited or read anything valuable about Pakistan, or you wouldn't tried to claim Pakistan follows Islamic law.

 

[beerisit]

I know of NONE that apply Islamic law properly, so maybe try again?



Incorrectly governed. Kingdoms are not permitted in Islamic law; therefore KSA's "government" is outside the law of Islam/Qur'an.



**snickers** Apparently, you haven't visited or read anything valuable about Pakistan, or you wouldn't tried to claim Pakistan follows Islamic law.

I wonder if you could tell us of any christian countries? Since there is a perception in the media that some Muslims feel that christian countries are at war with Muslim countries.

 

[Godobeyer]

I wonder if you could tell us of any christian countries? Since there is a perception in the media that some Muslims feel that christian countries are at war with Muslim countries.

are you in doubt about that ?
I guess Iraq and Afghnistan , had war with aliens

 

[Marble]

I guess Iraq and Afghnistan , had war with aliens

Perhaps USA could be regarded as a "Christian country" because the Evangelical Christians have so much influence there.
But Western Europe is secular.

 

[Godobeyer]

Perhaps USA could be regarded as a "Christian country" because the Evangelical Christians have so much influence there.
But Western Europe is secular.

any ways we don't blame all (the innocents) the Christains or the western people for the crimes that done in Iraq or any other place , we blame only whom did those crimes (the soldiers , their planes ,...etc )

 

[England my lionheart]

any ways we don't blame all (the innocents) the Christains or the western people for the crimes that done in Iraq or any other place , we blame only whom did those crimes (the soldiers , their planes ,...etc )

Does that include the Sunni and Shia Muslims who are killing each other?