why can't we have a relationship with other men?

[MysticSang'ha]

I honestly spit coffee on my computer screen reading this...

Funny. I did too.

 

[Riverwolf]

Hi Riverwolf, I don't think you get it. It has nothing to do with Eros and that gutter mindset. KB

Gutter?! Eros is among the firstborn of Chaos! That makes Him one of the Most Primal Powers, necessary for all things to happen. In a Judeo-Christian sense, that makes Eros the very Power by which God creates all things.

All forms of sexuality are aspects of Eros, and His feminine counterpart Aphrodite. The gutter is the place where sexuality is abused and shunned.

 

[TheKnight]

In 3500 years, how many practicing homosexuals have been blessed to avoid physical death? If they all witness death, what is necessary in order for homosexuals to witness life?

In 3500 years how many people have kept on living and pushing death aside that they are still here to this day?

Quoting random verses out of context will get you no where with me.

 

[tumbleweed41]

In 3500 years, how many practicing heterosexuals have been blessed to avoid physical death?

Hi Tumbleweed41,
Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!
Shabbat Shalom!
You asked:
"In 3500 years, how many practicing heterosexuals have been blessed to avoid physical death?"
There are a few! Mary, the Mother of Yahushua, is one, and John, the Beloved Disciple, is another.
Thanking you in advance should you be moved to reply, I am,
Sincerely, Latuwr

You are assuming Mary and John never died?
Three questions.

1. What canon provides a narrative of Mary and/or Johns assumption.
2. Was Mary a virgin when she was taken to heaven?
3. What evidence do you have of John being married?

Hi Tumbleweed41,
Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!

Yes and no!

• 1. I make no assumption concerning the assumption of either Mary or John into heaven so I do not depend upon any canon.
• 2. No!
• 3. None whatsoever! Evenso, all including homosexuals are commanded to marry and have children. I see no reason to assume that John was exempt from that commandment.

Thanking you in advance should you be moved to reply, I am,
Sincerely, Latuwr

I wonder then, where do you get your claim that Mary and John avoided physical death?

 

[gzusfrk]

I don't mean like doing orgies and wicked stuff like that. But why can't we make love to people of our gender. I don't get it. I am attracted to men.

the bible says, And the two shall become one flesh, A man and a man can not become one, neither can two women. for the woman was created from the rib of man. Together they make a whole.

 

[Father Heathen]

the bible says, And the two shall become one flesh, A man and a man can not become one, neither can two women. for the woman was created from the rib of man. Together they make a whole.

The bible says a lot of wacky, nonsensical things. What about it?

 

[Riverwolf]

the bible says, And the two shall become one flesh, A man and a man can not become one, neither can two women.

Why not?

 

[mayuboar]

A man has a penis, a woman has a vagina, what more needs to be said honestly.

whatever we were created from, nature,god,from nothing,whatever it was made us with clear and obvious intentions.

 

[Riverwolf]

A man has a penis, a woman has a vagina, what more needs to be said honestly.

whatever we were created from, nature,god,from nothing,whatever it was made us with clear and obvious intentions.

Intentions cannot exist without an intelligent hand.

Besides, human relationships go beyond the sexual aspect of it, which itself takes many forms beyond procreation. We are one of only three species, that I'm aware of, that engages in sex for pleasure and fun(the other two being bonobos and dolphins).

In addition, virtually everyone has at least some minor variation on sexual stimuli (that is, different "fetishes.")

With both of these being the case, my earlier point that "normal" doesn't exist still stands.

 

[AmbiguousGuy]

A man has a penis, a woman has a vagina, what more needs to be said honestly.

whatever we were created from, nature,god,from nothing,whatever it was made us with clear and obvious intentions.

A branch is made to extend leaves out into the sunlight. It was made with that clear and obvious intention.

And yet even a chimpanzee will pervert nature by breaking off a branch and using it to dig for his food.

Obviously dirt was made for walking upon. And yet we humans turn some of it into iron and steel tools.

Do you think ill of all of us for using objects in ways for which they were not created, or is it only items related to human sex which bother you in that way?

 

[mayuboar]

the chimpanzee is breaking the leaves off the tree, but the tree is not responsible, it is still being a tree and continues towards the light, as it is supposed to.
dirt was not made for walking upon at all, it existed before we walked upon the earth.
homosexuality does not bother me, its the denial that it is a flaw be it mental or physical that bothers me.
screw alday but admit the reason why.

 

[mayuboar]

Intentions cannot exist without an intelligent hand.

Besides, human relationships go beyond the sexual aspect of it, which itself takes many forms beyond procreation. We are one of only three species, that I'm aware of, that engages in sex for pleasure and fun(the other two being bonobos and dolphins).

In addition, virtually everyone has at least some minor variation on sexual stimuli (that is, different "fetishes.")

With both of these being the case, my earlier point that "normal" doesn't exist still stands.

slo we are all abnormal then, what about pedophiles, where do they come into this, to your way of thinking the poor guys cant help it right.
they are just poor little inoccent men born with an attraction beyond there control, but its ok because there is no normal so leave them be to wander the school yards and scout halls.

 

[mayuboar]

many are comparing to bonobo monkeys, saying they have same sex relations, before you use that coparison you should be aware that bonobo monkeys touch there young, nice comparison.

so if bonobos do it it must be fine is that right, what does it say when you must compare yourself to an ape anyway.

 

[AmbiguousGuy]

homosexuality does not bother me, its the denial that it is a flaw be it mental or physical that bothers me. screw alday but admit the reason why.

Yeah, I'm the same about Buddhism and Christianity and virtually all other religions.

Buddhism and Christianity do not bother me. What bothers me is the denial that they are mental or physical flaws. Unnatural perversions.

Meditate and pray all day, but admit the reason why!

I don't know why everyone seems to think that Buddhism and Christianity bother me.

 

[mayuboar]

Yeah, I'm the same about Buddhism and Christianity and virtually all other religions.

Buddhism and Christianity do not bother me. What bothers me is the denial that they are mental or physical flaws. Unnatural perversions.

Meditate and pray all day, but admit the reason why!

I don't know why everyone seems to think that Buddhism and Christianity bother me.

snappy comeback,not.:thud:

 

[mayuboar]

you are born with body parts designed for heterosexual use

doing anything else is against there purpose, nothing to do with religion.

100 men are born, 1 is gay, dont tell me there is not an error in his mind, a chemical imbalance or something.

not their failt but it is.

 

[mayuboar]

no honesty here whatsoever,

 

[AmbiguousGuy]

you are born with body parts designed for heterosexual use

doing anything else is against there purpose, nothing to do with religion.

100 men are born, 1 is gay, dont tell me there is not an error in his mind, a chemical imbalance or something.

not their failt but it is.

You are born with no religious belief. You were designed for rationality. Engaging in religious behavior is unnatural. It's against a human's purpose.

Please don't tell me that there is no error in the minds of the religious -- a chemical imbalance or something.

 

[tumbleweed41]

you are born with body parts designed for heterosexual use

doing anything else is against there purpose, nothing to do with religion.

When using words such as "designed", it is dishonest to deny that it has anything to do with religion.

no honesty here whatsoever,

 

[F0uad]

You are born with no religious belief. You were designed for rationality. Engaging in religious behavior is unnatural. It's against a human's purpose.

Please don't tell me that there is no error in the minds of the religious -- a chemical imbalance or something.

Please clarify what the purpose of life is?