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Why do atheist believe something can come from nothing?

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Maybe you're brighter than the average bear. :p


@Wu Wei is pretty a bright bear.

Maybe on evolution you are correct, i dont really know, its not a discussion that crops up much in everyday life but the few times it has the people ive spoken with are (i presume) typically knowledgeable.

But on forums like this there is a sharp divide between those who understand evolution (right down to the genetic level) and those who dont and do fill in the gaps in their knowledge with god.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Evolution takes place. They can not explain what is going on.


Yup they can, each birth produces genetic mutations, some of those mutations are beneficial and are duplicated in the next generation. Some are either benign or actively harmful. The harmful ones do not succeed in replicating.

Take the beneficial mutations (and successive mutations) over tens of thousands, millions of generations and look in the mirror to see how Australopithecus turned out
 

We Never Know

No Slack
To be fair, there is no evidence either way as to how life began, but we can certainly agree on the facts of evolution.

Agreed. However for chemicals and or inorganic mater to become life, it had to evolve to become life or life just poofed into existence.
However the evolution we understand only deals with life after it was already life.
 

leov

Well-Known Member
Yup they can, each birth produces genetic mutations, some of those mutations are beneficial and are duplicated in the next generation. Some are either benign or actively harmful. The harmful ones do not succeed in replicating.

Take the beneficial mutations (and successive mutations) over tens of thousands, millions of generations and look in the mirror to see how Australopithecus turned out
'Irreducible complexity' kills their view, I'd love to see real comment about it besides 'fallacy' silliness.
 

Road Warrior

Seeking the middle path..
Agreed. However for chemicals and or inorganic mater to become life, it had to evolve to become life or life just poofed into existence.
However the evolution we understand only deals with life after it was already life.
That's an unknown neither proved or disproved either way.

The evidence for evolution deals with life after it began.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
'Irreducible complexity' kills their view, I'd love to see real comment about it besides 'fallacy' silliness.

Kills 'whose view?'

To note: 'Irreducible complexity' is an unfalsifiable hypothesis proposed by the Creationists at the Discovery Institute to support the Fundamentalist Christian anti-science agenda.
 
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shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Mainstream evolutionists.
You mean 99% of the scientists in the disciplines associated with evolution? By the way I am a professional geologist part of the 99%. Pretty big mainstream.

Again . . . To note: 'Irreducible complexity' is an unfalsifiable hypothesis proposed by the Creationists at the Discovery Institute to support the Fundamentalist Christian anti-science agenda.
 
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