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Why do atheists haunt religious forums?

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Kerr

Well-Known Member
newhope101 said:
I think a believer would get onto an atheist forums sites and haunt polling booths if they had an axe to grind or thought they were "right' enough to interfere with the views of others. I do not need to get onto atheist sites because I can well understand the many reasons they have no foundation for belief in God or religion or both. Not all believers in God are religious extremists and want to shove it down everyones throat. Then again not all atheists are here to chop off religious heads either.

I accept the feedback that it takes both believers and non believers to build robust discussions as well as an opportunity for believers of any faith to test their beliefs and this is a good thing.
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This site is just not for theists, it is for everyone. Atheists counts as well. We even have our own DIR, which if anything should say that this is not just for religious people.

And why do you assume we want to tell others what to believe? I don´t. But I do debate, which is not about shoving beliefs down peoples throats (this part of the forum is for debates, so it would be strange if no one debated anything here).
 
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Misty

Well-Known Member
This wouldn't be a debate forum if it was inhabited by people all singing from the same hymn sheet.
 
McBell

McBell

Unbound
Misty said:
This wouldn't be a debate forum if it was inhabited by people all singing from the same hymn sheet.
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I don't know about that.
I mean you got over 38,000 different sects of Christianity all claiming to follow the Bible.
 
Magic Man

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
newhope101 said:
I think a believer would get onto an atheist forums sites and haunt polling booths if they had an axe to grind or thought they were "right' enough to interfere with the views of others. I do not need to get onto atheist sites because I can well understand the many reasons they have no foundation for belief in God or religion or both. Not all believers in God are religious extremists and want to shove it down everyones throat. Then again not all atheists are here to chop off religious heads either.
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I don't understand how you go through the first several sentences, and then get to the last one. Yes, not all atheists are here because they have an ax to grind with believers. This site is for discussing religion. Anyone can do that, no matter what their beliefs are. It's not just for theists or religious people.
 
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Misty

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On other religious forums on which I post some believers, usually those of a fundamentalist persuasion, complain about atheists and agnostics posting there. I reckon we would be missed if we left them, they wouldn't have anyone to whom they could preach and point out the error of their 'heathen' ways.:D
 
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the_naturalist

Member
newhope101 said:
Hey there
So why do people that do not believe in God and detest religion seek out religious forums to pass their time? I've put this in same faiths hoping to attract those with some sort of faith.
Given that believers understand their faith cannot be ‘scientifically proved’ many come to religious forums to learn, inquire and debate points of religious view respectfully.
What do we think of people that come to religious forums just to seek entertainment by belittling others. Forever singing the same tune “where’s the proof?”.
I put to the forum that atheists that spend their time on religious forums are to be pitied most of all members. What’s going on in their heads that they find entertainment in disparaging a community that has sought out such a forum to explore the subject further?
Some are here for ‘research’, so they say. Anyone that has studied research methods will know just how valid most research done within a forum is going to be…but great excuse to be here for years doing that never ending ‘research’.
Atheists are not invited, yet their comments cannot be stopped. So let’s ignore the expected usual banter and name calling and just comment on what we think they are doing here wasting our time. Surely they have their own faith bashing threads here. Surely there are other forums in which atheists can ‘religion and God’ bash to their hearts content with like minded people. Instead they seek out religious forums and threads to air their grievances and profanity. Are they sick? Are they bored? Are they evil? Do they have mental health issues? Perhaps just depraved? Perhaps just lost?
Should those that pray, pray for them or should we just ignore their comments in our threads?

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New hope, you are right ... atheists come to religious forums because they are at war with Christian ideology ... but then again, why should they not be at war or rather defend themselves because they are labeled as "sinners" ... there is a prejudice against atheists ... atheists would never bother believers if only believers accept the right that atheists are free to believe ... atheists have to accept the Christian belief ... atheists state "why do we have to believe" and "what proof do you have that we have to believe" ... christian fundamentalists and their dogmatic beliefs are simply setting themselves for harsh crticisms ... Christian fundamentalists should respect other people's beliefs, unless they are descrutive
 
newhope101

newhope101

Active Member
QUOTE: New hope, you are right ... atheists come to religious forums because they are at war with Christian ideology ... but then again, why should they not be at war or rather defend themselves because they are labeled as "sinners" ... there is a prejudice against atheists ... atheists would never bother believers if only believers accept the right that atheists are free to believe ... atheists have to accept the Christian belief ... atheists state "why do we have to believe" and "what proof do you have that we have to believe" ... christian fundamentalists and their dogmatic beliefs are simply setting themselves for harsh crticisms ... Christian fundamentalists should respect other people's beliefs, unless they are descrutive

Agreed….Atheists are atheists for many valid reasons. I’m agnostic. I’m here to learn and perhaps re evaluate my beliefs. Certainly it has been the atheist component that has motivated me to look up evolution, abiogenesis etc and learn.

Religion (from O.Fr. religion "religious community," from L. religionem (nom. religio) "respect for what is sacred, reverence for the gods,"[1] "obligation, the bond between man and the gods"[2] is the belief in and worship of a god or gods, or more in general a set of beliefs explaining the existence of and giving meaning to the universe, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.[3]

However, with the meaning of religious in mind, I looked for a site to haunt, with some purpose behind it. I looked up ‘religious forums’ to see how people rationalise their belief in God. The ridicule and requests for proof only get in the way.

I see the issue not unlike someone that hates cooking joining a cooking forum and asking for proof as to why some recipe is seen as the best.

I wonder if one might see an evolutionist, regardless of whether or not they also believe in some sort of god, as having faith in the assertions of scientists. Homo ‘subspecies’ appears to be an attempt to show Homo sapiens sapiens have ‘evolved’ rather than just being humans as varied as we all are today. To some at least, this appears to be a great act of faith. So I acknowledge evolutionists belong here. Some of these are also atheists. I think I understand…….
 
Smoke

Smoke

Done here.
newhope101 said:
I see the issue not unlike someone that hates cooking joining a cooking forum and asking for proof as to why some recipe is seen as the best.
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I see your never-ending squawking about atheists as being not unlike the actions of someone who joins a cooking forum to learn brownie recipes, and then spends all her time lashing out at everybody who discusses anything but brownie recipes, to the point that she even forgets about the brownie recipes herself.
 
jmvizanko

jmvizanko

Uber Tool
Has anybody pointed out that, by labeling herself an agnostic, newhope101 IS BY DEFINITION AN ATHEIST? Talk about a supercluster of irony.
 
jmvizanko

jmvizanko

Uber Tool
LuisDantas said:
That is not correct. Agnostics are not necessarily atheists.
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Actually it is correct. Agnostics do not believe in a god, which by definition makes them atheists. Weak atheists perhaps, but atheists by definition nonetheless. Even if you dispute this, my point about irony is still valid.
 
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luvuyesua

Member
it seems to be a ying yang
to be an athiest is free will
to be a believer is free will
by the way is their an athiest bible?
our discussions puts their brain to work, finding the answer that disproves, and if they cant, they may have to resort to ignorance or denial,
athiest givethe topics another twist.

I see it as learning what athiest have to believe in order to justify being an athiest, and it helps me help others, not fall in that thinking, and why they think that way. and to over and over satisfy their reasons for beingan athiest can be addictive. When one says their point and you see that they are just looking for the right question to re but, it shows, when they didnt study it, it shows, one doesnt have to answer. coming to this forum is fun for both, I have laughed a lot.
and yes you should pray for them and love your enemies



blessings to the ying yang
 
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luvuyesua

Member
I have always wondered, if someone decided to be an athiest from all levels of reasons, than why want to debate it, or prove why, cant you be so convinced, that getting involved in religious debates should be nonsence and a waste of time.
does converting to athiest come with doubt?
some people ask if athiest is also a religion.
just curious

may blessings come your way
 
Smoke

Smoke

Done here.
luvuyesua said:
by the way is their an athiest bible?
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Not an official one, but the Christian Bible has helped influenced countless people to become atheists.

luvuyesua said:
I have always wondered, if someone decided to be an athiest from all levels of reasons, than why want to debate it, or prove why, cant you be so convinced, that getting involved in religious debates should be nonsence and a waste of time.
does converting to athiest come with doubt?
some people ask if athiest is also a religion.
just curious
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I have always wondered, if someone decided to be a Christian from all levels of reasons, than why want to debate it, or prove why, cant you be so convinced, that getting involved in religious debates should be nonsence and a waste of time.
does converting to Christian come with doubt?
some people ask if Christian is also an unbelief.
just curious
 
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keeperoftheprison

Member
Smoke said:
Not an official one, but the Christian Bible has helped influenced countless people to become atheists.


I have always wondered, if someone decided to be a Christian from all levels of reasons, than why want to debate it, or prove why, cant you be so convinced, that getting involved in religious debates should be nonsence and a waste of time.
does converting to Christian come with doubt?
some people ask if Christian is also an unbelief.
just curious
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Christians want to help others find God. You have to find people willing to discuss religion and trying to find answers. Every athiest or agnostic person here is looking to find something or at least curious. That is a good thing.
 
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